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Server thoughts for renewal

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What do we do with our server situation?

Stay with OVH at 2k Canadian per year - its stable, no interruptions, renews in October 2020.
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26%
Move to SYS, part of OVH - reduce costs to $950 CDN (approx). Half the ram, small decrease in CPU. Would need to start on this in August, and would need to fund raise soon.
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Shut this place down, it smells like old sneakers in here and I'm weird
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6%
 
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We (telcta and I) tossed in a few bucks too! :wub:
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Ok so we are around $1200 right now which is more than a year at SYS. I will take a look, I think currently even a 6 month commitment there's no setup fees - I might just subscribe to that, and hold the rest until we are comfortable the specs are OK (I am 99.99% sure they will be... it's a forum..) and then I will take whatever is left and pour into into more time on the server.

You folks ok with that? I'll probably sub to the SYS platform today or tomorrow -- we've got a few days of rain here and I'm on "holidays" from work; might as well tinker.
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So right now SYS also has a server line available with 64gb of RAM for a few hundred dollar uptick (still about $700 cheaper on the year I think from OVH). So we can afford either one really - I'll need to navel gaze a bit and decide which way to go, but I am inclined for the extra few hundred to get double the ram (or in other words the same amount of ram as we currently have).
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infinitelurker wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:20 pm
I'm a software/devops guy (but for large enterprise apps, never worked with phpBB), and am curious if you could share some of the stats around what is needed to host OO. Database size, compute needed, bandwidth, etc. Are other hosts cheaper (?), but too much of a pain to move to, etc. If it's a pain to gather the info - don't worry, really just curious.

I'm going to kick in some money too (done!), and vote to stay as is, just because I know what it's like in your shoes. Time is money, and tweaking something that ain't broke can bring unforeseen pain. That being said, a little disk access here and there never hurt anybody, but then again, I'm guessing these servers aren't specced out with ssd's?

Thanks for what you do!
The biggest resource hog we have is the database -- we have had years in the past where it would take FOREVER to insert a record, or god forbid you go to edit a post. Lots of MySQL tuning (this wasn't my specialty until I was done with this -- now I am very comfortable in adjusting the performance parameters).

Bandwidth is so surgey because it depends on how many people are online - but I don't think we need the port speed that we have now -- 250mbs should be fine.
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FishPants wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:48 pm
So right now SYS also has a server line available with 64gb of RAM for a few hundred dollar uptick (still about $700 cheaper on the year I think from OVH). So we can afford either one really - I'll need to navel gaze a bit and decide which way to go, but I am inclined for the extra few hundred to get double the ram (or in other words the same amount of ram as we currently have).
Sounds like a plan to me!
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I’m a little concerned that the relativity vectors might not align with the quantum capacities if our spline reticulation exceeds the maximum algorithm thresholds, but I’m sure you’ve factored that into your decision making process.

(Whatever you decide is fine, I’m sure. :))
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Skinypupy wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:08 pm
I’m a little concerned that the relativity vectors might not align with the quantum capacities if our spline reticulation exceeds the maximum algorithm thresholds, but I’m sure you’ve factored that into your decision making process.

(Whatever you decide is fine, I’m sure. :))
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Sounds good. Thanks!

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Thanks for all the fish.

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FishPants wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:48 pm
So right now SYS also has a server line available with 64gb of RAM for a few hundred dollar uptick (still about $700 cheaper on the year I think from OVH). So we can afford either one really - I'll need to navel gaze a bit and decide which way to go, but I am inclined for the extra few hundred to get double the ram (or in other words the same amount of ram as we currently have).
Unsurprisingly, I think going with the extra RAM is well worth doing.

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The DB is never going to get smaller. Should probably have as much RAM as we can afford. Make sure there is enough overhead to handle usage spikes, those ad hoc queries can really eat up resources.
The throughput can probably shink safely as you pointed out. Not a lot of new members joining.
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