all possible except for the last part. Grund would move back up the list of possible Dames. The trust would disappear.Lagom Lite wrote: And then she'd have outed the real Natalie while still having our trust.
YES!Is Grund this devious?
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all possible except for the last part. Grund would move back up the list of possible Dames. The trust would disappear.Lagom Lite wrote: And then she'd have outed the real Natalie while still having our trust.
YES!Is Grund this devious?
Of course he is, but I cannot see any circumstance in which it worked out the way it did. The Dames would have voted someone out and Natalie would have protected that person. Only circumstance in which Grund is spoofing is that the real Natalie is not coming out. I know I know... Maybe she's not gay, but still...Lassr wrote:all possible except for the last part. Grund would move back up the list of possible Dames. The trust would disappear.Lagom Lite wrote: And then she'd have outed the real Natalie while still having our trust.
YES!Is Grund this devious?
You were very calm and quiet. That's probably why I never made the connection!Scoop20906 wrote:Yep, that was me. I think this lunch was before I started joining in on the WW games. I remember enjoying the Andre stories. I certainly hope I was not too annoying.
And to think he's Blossomed into the Taylor Scoop that he is today. I guess you eventually find your online voice after a couple thousand posts.Grundbegriff wrote:You were very calm and quiet. That's probably why I never made the connection!Scoop20906 wrote:Yep, that was me. I think this lunch was before I started joining in on the WW games. I remember enjoying the Andre stories. I certainly hope I was not too annoying.
awww poop.. this was my 4000th post. I was going to do a whole 4000th post thread, but now it's all ruined. Well I guess fitting since most of my posting has been in the WW games.Mr Bubbles wrote:Of course he is, but I cannot see any circumstance in which it worked out the way it did. The Dames would have voted someone out and Natalie would have protected that person. Only circumstance in which Grund is spoofing is that the real Natalie is not coming out. I know I know... Maybe she's not gay, but still...Lassr wrote:all possible except for the last part. Grund would move back up the list of possible Dames. The trust would disappear.Lagom Lite wrote: And then she'd have outed the real Natalie while still having our trust.
YES!Is Grund this devious?
Grundbegriff wrote:You were very calm and quiet. That's probably why I never made the connection!Scoop20906 wrote:Yep, that was me. I think this lunch was before I started joining in on the WW games. I remember enjoying the Andre stories. I certainly hope I was not too annoying.
Grundbegriff wrote:I don't think tru1cy's the one.
It only makes sense if:Lassr wrote:Well, I still have my vote on Lagom...anybody got any bright ideas?
Does Chaos mass reveal plan make sense now? I always hated early reveals just for the fairness and fun, but if it's not forbidden, then you do what you got to do to win.
and we cannot know those details without a reveal...Chaosraven wrote:It only makes sense if:Lassr wrote:Well, I still have my vote on Lagom...anybody got any bright ideas?
Does Chaos mass reveal plan make sense now? I always hated early reveals just for the fairness and fun, but if it's not forbidden, then you do what you got to do to win.
(1) Grund is Nat, rather than Nat staying hidden
(2) Tootie has 2 Scans that are NOT Grund, Mr B, stessier, Remus
(3) Jo is alive (ie not stessier)
Re:
(1) If the real Nat is hiding, that is ludicrous. There's only ONE dame left.
(2) Tootie could have a 'useless' scan of one of the four named above
(3) Without a shot, the list of 3 becomes a list of 4 unknowns, as Jo proves herself but no Jo means another unknown
We are in the possible "early reveal" by getting one of the Wolves first day, and make no mistake, it is still contingent on quite a few things.
theohall is the lowest on that list for me. Of course replace Lassr with Scoop.Scoop20906 wrote:I assume that Grund is Natalie and is telling the truth. I'm not willing for vote for Grund.
I'm not willing to vote for Mr. Bubbles because Grund claims he was protected. (although I suppose a Dame could have been protected)
I'm not willing to vote for tru1cy based on Grund's comment.
That leaves:
Chaosraven
Newcastle
Theohall
Lassr
Lagom Lite
Somebody needs to be tested at the end of the house.
Mr Bubbles: You voted for theohall I'm guessing mainly because he voted for you. I don't find theohall acting out of character. Other than voting for you, do you have a reason to vote Theohall?
I just found her behavior odd. Her quick attack of a few of myposts. It just seemed to me like she was trying to make something out of nothing. I found that odd and I can't help, but feel that she was trying to make something happen. Maybe a concerted effort on the part of the Dames to buck normal bad guy behavior and be more aggressive in the hope that we think "oh they can't be a bad guy... they placed the first vote" type of thing. I know I haven't defended myself well enough in the past and well... I can be a target because apparently everything I do is odd. Obviously Remus got caught with her pants down. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see theo as the other Dame.Scoop20906 wrote: Mr Bubbles: You voted for theohall I'm guessing mainly because he voted for you. I don't find theohall acting out of character. Other than voting for you, do you have a reason to vote Theohall?
but...but she has such a pretty mouth...Grundbegriff wrote:I think we should test Scoop. What do you think?
I won't be able to comment further until after class (around 11pm EST).
It's not like you have anything on you to put in her mouth you sicko. This is the fact of life after all.Lassr wrote:but...but she has such a pretty mouth...Grundbegriff wrote:I think we should test Scoop. What do you think?
I won't be able to comment further until after class (around 11pm EST).
I can go with that though.
The flaw with this - If I were a Dame and planned to expel you that night, I wouldn't have drawn more attention to you. I'd have drawn it to someone else in hopes Jo would shoot them. The excessive defense just seemed TaylorScoop-esque which has tended to indicate guilt when she does it. Grundbegriff's analysis cleared that up, so the vote was withdrawn. And, now, I'm lost as to who is the last Dame. CR, Newcastle, Lagom, or Lassr. I'm just a student.Mr Bubbles wrote:I just found her behavior odd. Her quick attack of a few of myposts. It just seemed to me like she was trying to make something out of nothing. I found that odd and I can't help, but feel that she was trying to make something happen. Maybe a concerted effort on the part of the Dames to buck normal bad guy behavior and be more aggressive in the hope that we think "oh they can't be a bad guy... they placed the first vote" type of thing. I know I haven't defended myself well enough in the past and well... I can be a target because apparently everything I do is odd. Obviously Remus got caught with her pants down. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see theo as the other Dame.Scoop20906 wrote: Mr Bubbles: You voted for theohall I'm guessing mainly because he voted for you. I don't find theohall acting out of character. Other than voting for you, do you have a reason to vote Theohall?
I'm okay with this. Someone needs to go. I'm just a simple miss and not a special and since I can't identify someone who simply screams Dame then expelling me is the next step towards winning.Grundbegriff wrote:I think we should test Scoop. What do you think?
I won't be able to comment further until after class (around 11pm EST).
The problem with the "Grundbegriff spoofing Natalie" argument leaves the question of who protected Mr Bubbles.Newcastle wrote: The previous discussion that Grund could be spoofing i think is valid...but his innocents will be confirmed upon being expelled at night. I also dont think it would be a wise move for a dame to expose herself like that. Its way too early, for the dames to do that. So one has to assume that Grund = natalie. And we do know now that he in all likelihood will be a target for night expulsion.
That's an excellent analysis, theohall. I definitely think the remaining Dame should off me tonight if she has any sense at all.theohall wrote: Issues:
1) Grundbegriff is Natalie = Grund protected Mr Bubbles
2) Grundbegriff is spoofing Natalie which could mean two things:
2a) Grundbegriff is a Dame trying to get Natalie to out - which would be stupid.
2b) Grundbegriff is a student trying to draw attention to himself to give us another night to find the Dame hoping the real Natalie protects him and the Dames lose another expulsion.
Why is 2a) stupid if Grundbegriff is the Dame? For obvious reasons. If the real Natalie steps forward, we test Grundbegriff or the claimant. Either way, one of them would most likely be the Dame.
I'm leaning towards 1) or 2b) which is why I'm considering her innocent. Seeing as no one else has claimed Natalie, option 1) seems most likely. Someone had to protect before this hour started, so stessier could not be Natalie and Remus was a Dame. When Grundbegriff dies tonight, we will know she was Natalie since she can't protect herself, and the Dame would be stupid to keep the Protector alive.
At least you wont be killing Natalie or Joe or any of the student specials. Just helps narrow the field to help you all catch the Dame.Newcastle wrote:ah heck...
theohall
she's been high on my suspect list...lets see how she dances.
I've got no other better candidate at the moment.Lassr wrote:that puts theohall at 4 votes, I think. I don't think he's the one we are looking for but it may not be bad to go ahead and check since he has said he has no major role.
Any reason not to vote for him at this point?
He already did (didn't):Scoop20906 wrote:I've got no other better candidate at the moment.Lassr wrote:that puts theohall at 4 votes, I think. I don't think he's the one we are looking for but it may not be bad to go ahead and check since he has said he has no major role.
Any reason not to vote for him at this point?
We can give him the day to make a final comment before voting however. He might want to claim something.
theohall isn't my first choice either but I'm usually wrong about these sort of things.theohall wrote:At least you wont be killing Natalie or Joe or any of the student specials. Just helps narrow the field to help you all catch the Dame.