[WW] Prom Night Massacre - 1:30 AM - Game Over!

[Grundbegriff]

The first vote. Greens are known to be good.

• Isgrimnur acc Lassr(1)
• Remus West acc Grundbegriff(1)
• theohall acc Isgrimnur(1)
• Kelric acc theohall(1)
• Newcastle acc Remus West(1)
• Unagi acc theohall(2)
• Lassr acc tru1cy(1)
• tru1cy acc Lassr(2)
• Semaj acc Kelric(1)
• Grundbegriff acc Unagi(1)
• theohall acc Remus West(2)
• Newcastle wd Remus West(1)
• Lassr acc Chaosraven(1)
• Lassr acc Unagi(2)
• Isgrimnur acc Unagi(3)
• Remus West wd Grundbegriff
• Kelric acc Unagi(4)
• tru1cy acc Unagi(5)
• theohall acc Unagi(6), killing him. Unagi names Remus West his executioner.

Against theohall: Unagi
Against Kelric: Semaj
Against Unagi: Grundbegriff, Lassr, Isgrimnur, Kelric, theohall, tru1cy

The second vote. Greens are known to be good.

• Isgrimnur acc Kelric(1)
• Kelric acc Semaj(1)
• Remus West acc theohall(1)
• theohall acc Remus West(1)
• tru1cy acc Grundbegriff(1)
• Grundbegriff acc theohall(2)
• Semaj acc Kelric(2)
• theohall acc Kelric(3)
• Remus West wd theohall(0)
• Kelric wd Semaj(0)
• Lassr acc tru1cy(1)
• tru1cy acc Lassr(1)
• Kelric acc tru1cy(2)
• Remus West acc Lassr(2)
• Grundbegriff acc Lassr(3)
• Lassr acc Grundbegriff(1)
• theohall acc Lassr(4)
• Chaosraven acc Lassr(5), killing him. Lassr names theohall his executioner.

Against Kelric: Isgrimnur, Semaj
Against tru1cy: Kelric
Against Lassr: tru1cy, Remus West, Grundbegriff, theohall, Chaosraven
Against Grundbegriff: Lassr

The current vote:

• theohall acc Semaj(1)
• Isgrimnur acc Grundbegriff(1)
• Kelric acc tru1cy(1)
• Remus West acc tru1cy(2)
• tru1cy acc theohall(1)
• Semaj acc theohall(2)
• theohall acc tru1cy(3)
• Kelric wd tru1cy(2)

Against Grundbegriff: Isgrimnur
Against tru1cy: Remus West, theohall
Against theohall: tru1cy, Semaj

[Grundbegriff]

First vote by voter

Unagi acc theohall(2)

Lassr acc tru1cy(1)
Lassr acc Chaosraven(1)
Lassr acc Unagi(2)

Newcastle acc Remus West(1)
Newcastle wd Remus West(1)

Grundbegriff acc Unagi(1)

Isgrimnur acc Lassr(1)
Isgrimnur acc Unagi(3)

Kelric acc theohall(1)
Kelric acc Unagi(4)

Remus West acc Grundbegriff(1)
Remus West wd Grundbegriff

Semaj acc Kelric(1)

theohall acc Isgrimnur(1)
theohall acc Remus West(2)
theohall acc Unagi(6)

tru1cy acc Lassr(2)
tru1cy acc Unagi(5)

Second vote by voter

Lassr acc tru1cy(1)
Lassr acc Grundbegriff(1)

Chaosraven acc Lassr(5)

Grundbegriff acc theohall(2)
Grundbegriff acc Lassr(3)

Isgrimnur acc Kelric(1)

Kelric acc Semaj(1)
Kelric wd Semaj(0)
Kelric acc tru1cy(2)

Remus West acc theohall(1)
Remus West wd theohall(0)
Remus West acc Lassr(2)

Semaj acc Kelric(2)

theohall acc Remus West(1)
theohall acc Kelric(3)
theohall acc Lassr(4)

tru1cy acc Grundbegriff(1)
tru1cy acc Lassr(1)

Current vote by voter

Isgrimnur acc Grundbegriff(1)

Kelric acc tru1cy(1)
Kelric wd tru1cy(2)

Remus West acc tru1cy(2)

Semaj acc theohall(2)

theohall acc Semaj(1)
theohall acc tru1cy(3)

tru1cy acc theohall(1)


Combined behavioral overview:

Chaosraven acc Lassr

Grundbegriff acc Unagi
Grundbegriff acc theohall
Grundbegriff acc Lassr

Isgrimnur acc Lassr
Isgrimnur acc Unagi
Isgrimnur acc Kelric
Isgrimnur acc Grundbegriff

Kelric acc theohall
Kelric acc Unagi
Kelric acc Semaj
Kelric wd Semaj
Kelric acc tru1cy
Kelric acc tru1cy
Kelric wd tru1cy

Remus West acc Grundbegriff
Remus West wd Grundbegriff
Remus West acc theohall
Remus West wd theohall
Remus West acc Lassr
Remus West acc tru1cy

Semaj acc Kelric
Semaj acc Kelric
Semaj acc theohall

theohall acc Isgrimnur
theohall acc Remus West
theohall acc Unagi
theohall acc Remus West
theohall acc Kelric
theohall acc Lassr
theohall acc Semaj
theohall acc tru1cy

tru1cy acc Lassr
tru1cy acc Unagi
tru1cy acc Grundbegriff
tru1cy acc Lassr
tru1cy acc theohall

[Grundbegriff]

Against Unagi: Grundbegriff, Lassr, Isgrimnur, Kelric, theohall, tru1cy
Against Lassr: tru1cy, Remus West, Grundbegriff, theohall, Chaosraven

I find it difficult to believe that Remus West would be randomly tapped to be Evildoer yet again. And I don't think an Evil Remus would've said and done some of what Remus has said and done in this game.

I don't think tru1cy is evil in this game.

I'm going to go out on a limb and venture that theohall is not evil in this game.

From what I remember of his playing style, I think Kelric is probably good.

I'm deeply worried about Chaosraven and Isgrimnur. Especially Chaosraven.

I think it would be a good move to kill  Chaosraven 
 


If that doesn't work, it's likely Isgrimnur.

[theohall]

Would Chaosraven fake having been attacked once the "no kill" result was revealed? Don't really know, but it's an interesting gamble if CR is the Killer.

[Kelric]

Did CR come out as having been attacked? I don't recall that.

 Isgrimnur 
 


Yay, beer. Always worth pre-gaming before the Prom. Especially since I have that hotel room all set up for any surviving hot chicks.

[Chaosraven]

Yeah, right after my 'i gotta check the rules' post titled ya missed me. I'm not the killler.

[theohall]

Did CR come out as having been attacked? I don't recall that.

 Isgrimnur 
 


Yay, beer. Always worth pre-gaming before the Prom. Especially since I have that hotel room all set up for any surviving hot chicks.

He didn't actually say "I was attacked," but it's rather evident by his questioning of the rules in relation to why he's alive he was attacked.

[Chaosraven]

Was I unclear? Yes I was attacked and notified. Making me either secondary target with a living partner or the fem hero attacked alone primary or secondary. The consensus seemed to be if someone else was notified to keep their mouth shut.

[theohall]

Which brings back the original question. The Killer would be notified first via pm that no kill happened. Would Chaosraven be devious enough to fake having been attacked while adding the rules question to feign innocence?

Again - I don't know.

[Grundbegriff]

Which brings back the original question. The Killer would be notified first via pm that no kill happened. Would Chaosraven be devious enough to fake having been attacked while adding the rules question to feign innocence?

You're right. Chaosraven is clever, but also clever enough to discern the risks and seldom inclined toward gambits. If the killer faked an attack, the killer would risk contradiction by the FH (if he attacked only one) or by the secondary coupled (if he attacked two).

I didn't interpret Chaosraven as actually coming out, but simply as speculating about the rules.

 Isgrimnur 
 

[theohall]

I still want to test tru1cy and would prefer not to "follow" Grundbegriff again.

It's pretty darn near impossible to get any read on tru1cy, which is why I think he's worth testing. Isgrimnur - don't know. He and I were essentially on the same page on stuff which would lead one to consider me just as likely a killer as him.

However, if the votes start going Isgrimnur's way, I will switch. Just not ready to switch, yet.

[Grundbegriff]

I still want to test tru1cy and would prefer not to "follow" Grundbegriff again.

It's pretty darn near impossible to get any read on tru1cy, which is why I think he's worth testing.

It's not impossible, and he's not a priority for testing. He's conspicuously non-evil.

He and I were essentially on the same page on stuff which would lead one to consider me just as likely a killer as him.

Correct. So if one of you is evil and you're not evil, it follows that he's evil.

However, if the votes start going Isgrimnur's way, I will switch. Just not ready to switch, yet.

How... pragmatic.

[theohall]

If Isgrminur doesn't want to pop in and talk about it, I will help get him shot.

[Isgrimnur]

Shooting me is a failure. I spent all my effort in arguing earlier. There's no reason for anyone to say anything, as we've established. Everything said or revealed helps the killer. Offing me gets you no closer to winning for the students.

[Chaosraven]

And people call me emo

[theohall]

Shooting me is a failure. I spent all my effort in arguing earlier. There's no reason for anyone to say anything, as we've established. Everything said or revealed helps the killer. Offing me gets you no closer to winning for the students.

In other words, we should continue to blindly shoot folks. I feel discussing things is more conducive to finding this killer, even if it's just discussing things. Those that don't wish to talk are probably hiding something, which is why I'd rather test tru1cy. Since you have decided no further discussion is required...

 withdraw tru1cy 
 

 Isgrimnur 
 

[Isgrimnur]

I tried discussion and got shouted down or ignored.

Here, let me help.

 Isgrimnur 
 

[Scoop20906]

Votes:

Isgrimnur (4) - Kelric, Grundbegriff, Theohall, Isgrimnur
Theohall (2) - tru1cy, Semaj
tru1cy (1) - Remus West

Majority is 5 votes.

Student(s) with no votes: Chaosraven,

[Grundbegriff]

Isgrimnur (4) - Kelric, Grundbegriff, Theohall, Isgrimnur

Uhm... I guess we're supposed to infer that Isgrimnur is neither Slashy nor Coupled. Which means, of course, that Slashy can select Isgrimnur as a secondary and get a double kill.

Nice piece of work, there, Isgrimnur.

 Withdraw Isgrimnur 
 

[theohall]

and thus, I'm back to testing...

 withdraw Isgrimnur 
 

 tru1cy 
 

[Grundbegriff]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

[theohall]

I think this is first game I've been in with Kelric, so I'm no help at all in figuring out his game.... for now.

[Semaj]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

I frigging hate you.

[Chaosraven]

 tru1cy 
 
seems to pop up and address things too frequently. Feels like it's important to him to check in and keep tabs. Feels wrong.

[Kelric]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

I call bullshit. I usually play pretty predictably. Maybe I should take another eighteen months off after this one.

[Scoop20906]

Votes:

tru1cy (3) - Remus West, Theohall, Chaosraven
Isgrimnur (2) - Kelric, Isgrimnur
Theohall (2) - tru1cy, Semaj
Kelric (1) - Grundbegriff

Majority is 5 votes.

Student(s) with no votes:

[Semaj]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

In case you missed it the first time, I really frigging hate you.

[Remus West]

I really have started to doubt my "Seer would have scanned Grundbegriff" thing at this point. or a guy that claims to read things so carefully why would he miss Chaosraven's claim to being attacked? He seems willing to go towards any target that may generate enough votes to get shot. I'm going to reread but I really lean towards voting for him right now.

[Grundbegriff]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

I call bullshit. I usually play pretty predictably. Maybe I should take another eighteen months off after this one.

That's a pretty touchy reaction, isn't it? Someone points the finger at you and you threaten to bow out for a year and a half, as if suspecting is the same as not welcoming you?

I'd say that's an overreaction. And who but Slashy has need to be that hypersensitive?

[Grundbegriff]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

I frigging hate you.

I don't get it.

[Kelric]

I'm just not buying that it's tru1cy.

 Kelric 
 
-- now that's a guy who's utterly unreadable.

I call bullshit. I usually play pretty predictably. Maybe I should take another eighteen months off after this one.

That's a pretty touchy reaction, isn't it? Someone points the finger at you and you threaten to bow out for a year and a half, as if suspecting is the same as not welcoming you?

I'd say that's an overreaction. And who but Slashy has need to be that hypersensitive?

As I was typing that I thought it would be taken wrong, and I was right. I wasn't saying it in a 'take my ball and go home' type of way though it does read that way. I was saying it as in 'If you're having this much trouble reading the way I'm playing, I should wait eighteen more months before playing again because you never had this trouble before' type of way. Sorry for having worded it poorly, that was typed after ten hours of drinking. No hard feelings at all, just amusement.

[Isgrimnur]

Isgrimnur (4) - Kelric, Grundbegriff, Theohall, Isgrimnur

Uhm... I guess we're supposed to infer that Isgrimnur is neither Slashy nor Coupled. Which means, of course, that Slashy can select Isgrimnur as a secondary and get a double kill.

Nice piece of work, there, Isgrimnur.

 Withdraw Isgrimnur 
 

You can infer whatever you like, but that doesn't make any of it true. But if you want to keep speculating and feeding possible intel to the killer, keep talking.

 Grundbegriff 
 

[Remus West]

 Grundbegriff 
 

[theohall]

I really have started to doubt my "Seer would have scanned Grundbegriff" thing at this point. or a guy that claims to read things so carefully why would he miss Chaosraven's claim to being attacked? He seems willing to go towards any target that may generate enough votes to get shot. I'm going to reread but I really lean towards voting for him right now.

I'm wondering if one of the first two kills (Mr Bubbles or Lassr) was the King. One would think the King would've spoken up by now. Unagi could have been as well. If he tried claiming King that early, the Killer would off him anyway and there would be no way to stop it. If the King is alive, his silence isn't helping.

[Remus West]

I really have started to doubt my "Seer would have scanned Grundbegriff" thing at this point. or a guy that claims to read things so carefully why would he miss Chaosraven's claim to being attacked? He seems willing to go towards any target that may generate enough votes to get shot. I'm going to reread but I really lean towards voting for him right now.

I'm wondering if one of the first two kills (Mr Bubbles or Lassr) was the King. One would think the King would've spoken up by now. Unagi could have been as well. If he tried claiming King that early, the Killer would off him anyway and there would be no way to stop it. If the King is alive, his silence isn't helping.

Not the first two kills. Bubbles and Newcastle were. Lassr was a lynch.

[Chaosraven]

Obviously the king has yet to find the killer. Sort of depends on what scans he has as to how useful they might be. Three dead people as 'not the killer' is pretty useless.

[Scoop20906]

Votes:

tru1cy (2) - Theohall, Chaosraven
Grundbegriff (2) - Isgrimnur, Remus West
Theohall (2) - tru1cy, Semaj
Isgrimnur (1) - Kelric
Kelric (1) - Grundbegriff

Majority is 5 votes.

Student(s) with no votes: None

[Kelric]

 withdraw Isgrimnur 
 


Could we be spreading our votes any thinner?

 tru1cy 
 

[Grundbegriff]

Slaying tru1cy seems like a mistake.

[Semaj]

glad you agree.

I'd explain my irritation, but if you do not see it, It's worthless.