BSG VI -The Social -Canceled -Reroll of Roles tonight.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:06 pm

Newcastle

...for firsting.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:10 pm

stessier

so he may take as long a nap as he needs and not feel pressured to step into the thread.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:20 pm

Ellen - she sleeps with a player of her choice each night.
One of you deliberately chose me
That player, if he has a special role, cannot perform any special functions that night.
So if I had something to do, it didn't get done
Cannot sleep with the same player more than once.
At least THAT'S over
Ellen can be denied her nightly adventure by a Starbuck protection of that person.
Obviously I was not protected by Starbuck
Twice during the game she may search the players room she is sleeping with to determine if they have a special role, but not what role they play.
Do we assume Ellen used up one of these on me?
Results of scan would be special or not special.
Because to Counteract Cylon Knowledge, if she *DID* this info should then be common knowledge

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:34 pm

Unagi wrote:The weird thing about that picture is; no mater where you stand in the room, the eyes always appear to be ignoring you.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:39 pm

I am ignoring CR's Ellen comment, because it does not tell us anything, except CR had company, cannot have company again, and is not Ellen. It tells us nothing else about CR.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:44 pm

Remus West wrote: Lassr, can the Cylons target one of their own with the sexbot?

Wha...uh, No, the Cylon civil war has not started yet.

Kenetickid · Post by **Kenetickid** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:47 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Ellen - she sleeps with a player of her choice each night.
One of you deliberately chose me
That player, if he has a special role, cannot perform any special functions that night.
So if I had something to do, it didn't get done
Cannot sleep with the same player more than once.
At least THAT'S over
Ellen can be denied her nightly adventure by a Starbuck protection of that person.
Obviously I was not protected by Starbuck
Twice during the game she may search the players room she is sleeping with to determine if they have a special role, but not what role they play.
Do we assume Ellen used up one of these on me?
Results of scan would be special or not special.
Because to Counteract Cylon Knowledge, if she *DID* this info should then be common knowledge

So with the end you put on that are you saying that if we all assume that Ellen searched your room you are going to self out so that it is all common knowledge about your role and starbuck will atleast be able to delay the inevitable?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:48 pm

theohall wrote:I am ignoring CR's Ellen comment, because it does not tell us anything, except CR had company, cannot have company again, and is not Ellen. It tells us nothing else about CR.

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Lassr, can the Cylons target one of their own with the sexbot?
Wha...uh, No, the Cylon civil war has not started yet.

Interesting order for those two posts. I had assumed that they would not "attack" themselves but it is good to know. Which means it tells us a lot more about CR. It tells us he is on our side.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:48 pm

Remus West wrote:
Brendan wrote:Is Isgrimnur really prone to self-voting? I can't remember him surviving long enough to do so.
I do not remember him doing it but I wouldn't stand on that.

In review, I've done it once.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:52 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Brendan wrote:Is Isgrimnur really prone to self-voting? I can't remember him surviving long enough to do so.
I do not remember him doing it but I wouldn't stand on that.
In review, I've done it once.

It's very CR of you to actually go through your previous games' voting histories. Are you in league with an obssessive-compulsive stat nerd?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon May 17, 2010 1:57 pm

Brendan wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Brendan wrote:Is Isgrimnur really prone to self-voting? I can't remember him surviving long enough to do so.
I do not remember him doing it but I wouldn't stand on that.
In review, I've done it once.
It's very CR of you to actually go through your previous games' voting histories. Are you in league with an obssessive-compulsive stat nerd?

No, I'm actually a borderline one myself. My sig shows where I am in post count and who I plan on passing. I thoroughly enjoy doing research, but there are levels of stat nerd to which I could only aspire (or say "there but the Grace of God go I").

It was pretty easy to search this forum with both my name as author and in the text. Once I sorted through all the quotes I had where someone quoted me first, it was pretty easy.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:10 pm

Well, at least we don't have to worry about offing Grund ourselves because we can't trust him. Saves us a lynch we can use on the cylons.

So, whose afraid of the big bad Grund?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:15 pm

Remus West wrote:
theohall wrote:I am ignoring CR's Ellen comment, because it does not tell us anything, except CR had company, cannot have company again, and is not Ellen. It tells us nothing else about CR.

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Lassr, can the Cylons target one of their own with the sexbot?
Wha...uh, No, the Cylon civil war has not started yet.
Interesting order for those two posts. I had assumed that they would not "attack" themselves but it is good to know. Which means it tells us a lot more about CR. It tells us he is on our side.

I had meant to amend the Ellen rule by making the nightly visit a choice not a requirement...but I didn't...so carry on. It doesn't break the game.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:24 pm

Remus West wrote:
theohall wrote:I am ignoring CR's Ellen comment, because it does not tell us anything, except CR had company, cannot have company again, and is not Ellen. It tells us nothing else about CR.

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Lassr, can the Cylons target one of their own with the sexbot?
Wha...uh, No, the Cylon civil war has not started yet.
Interesting order for those two posts. I had assumed that they would not "attack" themselves but it is good to know. Which means it tells us a lot more about CR. It tells us he is on our side.

Unless he is a conniving Cylon.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:39 pm

Kenetickid wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Twice during the game she may search the players room she is sleeping with to determine if they have a special role, but not what role they play.
Do we assume Ellen used up one of these on me?
Results of scan would be special or not special.
Because to Counteract Cylon Knowledge, if she *DID* this info should then be common knowledge
So with the end you put on that are you saying that if we all assume that Ellen searched your room you are going to self out so that it is all common knowledge about your role and starbuck will atleast be able to delay the inevitable?

All Ellen would know is Special/Not Special. If the result is Special, she doesn't learn the Role. I would hope for Starbuck protection anyway, as Starbuck then has people to choose from beyond "self"

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:41 pm

theohall wrote:
Remus West wrote:
theohall wrote:I am ignoring CR's Ellen comment, because it does not tell us anything, except CR had company, cannot have company again, and is not Ellen. It tells us nothing else about CR.

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Lassr, can the Cylons target one of their own with the sexbot?
Wha...uh, No, the Cylon civil war has not started yet.
Interesting order for those two posts. I had assumed that they would not "attack" themselves but it is good to know. Which means it tells us a lot more about CR. It tells us he is on our side.
Unless he is a conniving Cylon.

Well, Lassr is saying she has to sex someone up, right?

Lassr, does a target automatically know if they've been, uh, coupled with Ellen? If yes, then we can assume CR is a good guy because there'd be a counter claim otherwise, given the earlier ruling that she can't target a cylon? "No, man, she was with me last night!" I think I get Remus' point now.

Oh, unless the sexbot targeted Grund - then CR could be a conniving cylon, I guess. I suppose that might actual be a workable ploy, but my intuition says it's a risky play.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:48 pm

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote:
theohall wrote:I am ignoring CR's Ellen comment, because it does not tell us anything, except CR had company, cannot have company again, and is not Ellen. It tells us nothing else about CR.

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Lassr, can the Cylons target one of their own with the sexbot?
Wha...uh, No, the Cylon civil war has not started yet.
Interesting order for those two posts. I had assumed that they would not "attack" themselves but it is good to know. Which means it tells us a lot more about CR. It tells us he is on our side.
I had meant to amend the Ellen rule by making the nightly visit a choice not a requirement...but I didn't...so carry on. It doesn't break the game.

I did discover an error in the rules. Please note the sequence should be
1. Leoben interrupts Starbuck
2. Starbuck searches for player with the gun.
3. Starbuck protects
4. Ellen gets nasty
5. Cylons assassinate
6. D'Anna scans.
7. Athena scans
8. Leoben scans
9. Gaeta researches

that is the order in which I process the orders. 4 and 5 were incorrectly switched in the original post. (note: No one gets results from activities performed at night until the start of the day cycle).

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:51 pm

Brendan wrote: Lassr, does a target automatically know if they've been, uh, coupled with Ellen?[/color]

She's good, damn good actually, you will remember a night with her.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:56 pm

Lassr wrote:
Brendan wrote: Lassr, does a target automatically know if they've been, uh, coupled with Ellen?[/color]
She's good, damn good actually, you will remember a night with her.

/evil cackle

heh heh heh

uhm, ellen, please visit brendan so he can have a first hand experience of the talented lassr's delightful, sensual, and descriptive writing style.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon May 17, 2010 2:57 pm

Newcastle wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Brendan wrote: Lassr, does a target automatically know if they've been, uh, coupled with Ellen?[/color]
She's good, damn good actually, you will remember a night with her.
/evil cackle

heh heh heh

uhm, ellen, please visit brendan so he can have a first hand experience of the talented lassr's delightful, sensual, and descriptive writing style.

Now that is just cruel.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:00 pm

Newcastle wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Brendan wrote: Lassr, does a target automatically know if they've been, uh, coupled with Ellen?[/color]
She's good, damn good actually, you will remember a night with her.
/evil cackle

heh heh heh

uhm, ellen, please visit brendan so he can have a first hand experience of the talented lassr's delightful, sensual, and descriptive writing style.

Um, that's cool - it sounds like an experience I can do without. I'm not looking for "sensual" in my WW games.

Ok, so with Lassr's updated order of operations, the question becomes: Lassr, can cylons knowingly target a player for both assassination and ellen sexing?

I'm going to say that it's highly likely that Grund wasn't Starbuck, because Starbuck has very little incentive not to self-protect on the first night, particularly when protecting a bad cylon gets you killed. Right?

The wheels-upon-wheels version of this plot would be for a bad cylon to draw Starbuck's protection. I'd think CR would have to be pretty ballsy to pull that off though.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:04 pm

1 kenetickid -------
2 Chaosraven -------
3 theohall -------
4 Newcastle ------- stessier
5 Remus West -------
6 Unagi -------
7 semaj -------
8 tru1cy -------
9 stessier -------
10 Isgrimnur ------- Newcastle
11 Scoop20906 -------
12 Brendan -------
13 redrun -------
14 Mr. Bubbles -------
Grundbegriff -------

Newcastle ------- 1
stessier ------- 1
-------
-------
-------

Majority is 8

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:11 pm

TIME OUT!

There may be a problem. We may need another player.

Please listen to the music in your head while I put you on hold.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:12 pm

Ellen that little slut.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:14 pm

Brendan wrote: Lassr, can cylons knowingly target a player for both assassination and ellen sexing?

I'll go ahead and answer while we are in a holding pattern; Yes, that is possible. Sex first though, because otherwise that would just be too nasty, even for me.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:15 pm

Lassr wrote:TIME OUT!

There may be a problem. We may need another player.

Please listen to the music in your head while I put you on hold.

Is that a new player or does someone need to bow out?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:40 pm

Remus West wrote:
Lassr wrote:TIME OUT!

There may be a problem. We may need another player.

Please listen to the music in your head while I put you on hold.
Is that a new player or does someone need to bow out?

Someone told that they overheard pertinent game info they were not entitled to, so I think I'm going to need to replace that person.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:52 pm

Lassr wrote:I had meant to amend the Ellen rule by making the nightly visit a choice not a requirement...

That would totally go against the essense of Ellen.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:56 pm

May, for meta reasons - need to re-roll?

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:59 pm

Unagi wrote:May, for meta reasons - need to re-roll?

Hoping to get Ellen the second time? Is that why you want to reroll.

You sick little monkey.. I get the impression you'd enjoy it way too much.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 3:59 pm

Unagi wrote:May, for meta reasons - need to re-roll?

Yes we need to start over.

Chaosraven overheard Kenetickid (they live under the same roof). So i would need to replace both of them. Since we are not far into the game I will reroll tonight and start fresh.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:01 pm

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:01 pm

Lassr wrote:
Unagi wrote:May, for meta reasons - need to re-roll?
Yes we need to start over.

Chaosraven overheard Kenetickid (they live under the same roof). So i would need to replace both of them. Since we are not far into the game I will reroll tonight and start fresh.

I figured as much...

kenetickid has a huge mouth.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:02 pm

The end result was preordained anyway.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:04 pm

KK, you suck. We had this on lock-down.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:04 pm

Unagi wrote:
Lassr wrote:I had meant to amend the Ellen rule by making the nightly visit a choice not a requirement...
That would totally go against the essense of Ellen.

Can discuss now.

I was toying with this rule before we started. I think it is OK, I remembered I was going to fix that by letting the Cylons sleep with the one they kill that night so they could fake it. When I went back that was when I discovered I forgot to switch the sequence to show that possibility.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:04 pm

Great! I may be cell-phone only starting Wed, ending Fri. Fortunately, it is a Droid, just still have to figure out how to type consistently on the darn thing. Yes, I know to turn the phone sideways, even if I am too old to understand the hype of Transformers and Thundercats.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:05 pm

Kenetickid screwed himself. The Cylons found Starbuck and Athena on the first night.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:05 pm

sweet! reroll!

and whoever gets ellen, PLEASE VISIT BRENDAN!!! He needs some serious love, serious loving rather...not serious love, or else that would go against ellen, seriously

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon May 17, 2010 4:05 pm

Athena -------- Chaosraven
Gaeta -------- Mr. Bubbles
Starbuck -------- stessier
Tyrol -------- Scoop20906
Ellen -------- kenetickid
D'Anna -------- Brendan
Leoben -------- Remus West
Citizen -------- Newcastle
Citizen -------- Grundbegriff
Citizen -------- tru1cy
Citizen -------- redrun
Citizen -------- theohall
Citizen -------- semaj
Citizen -------- Isgrimnur
Citizen -------- Unagi