[WW] Human Centipede Game over Good Guys Win.

[theohall]

Wait... you bastards got the vote to 4 already?

It was a busy evening. Sorry.

[Chaosraven]

Well that's awesome. ((rolly eyes))

Here's hoping yer right and I'll get a chance to catch up and post something tomorrow.

[Chaosraven]

Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:22 am til Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:52 am

[Mr Bubbles]

1. Kenetickid - Remus West
2. Scoop20906 - Isgrimnur
3. theohall - Isgrimnur
4. Remus West
5. Lassr - Isgrimnur
6.Lagom Lite
7.Isgrimnur - Scoop
8. stessier
9. Chaosraven

Votes against
Isgrimnur 4
Scoop 1

Voting is Closed

[Lassr]

Well that's awesome. ((rolly eyes))

Here's hoping yer right and I'll get a chance to catch up and post something tomorrow.

If Isgrimnur is the real detective then that meant you were evil.

I had a hard time getting to sleep as I thought about this.

Scoops reveal was convenient and I hate that but his play seemed more consistent with the real seer. I thought Scoop was evil early but as Grund has pointed out, sometimes you think you find evil and you find a special instead. I hope this is the case here.

[Lassr]

1. Kenetickid - Remus West
2. Scoop20906 - Isgrimnur
3. theohall - Isgrimnur
4. Remus West
5. Lassr - Isgrimnur
6.Lagom Lite
7.Isgrimnur - Scoop
8. stessier
9. Chaosraven

Votes against
Isgrimnur 4
Scoop 1

Voting is Closed

Yikes, 6 hours since voting closed. Guess that means he's trying to get the night kill from Scoop and Chaos so he can end it in one swoop.

I won't be able to check back until later.

[Kenetickid]

1. Kenetickid - Remus West
2. Scoop20906 - Isgrimnur
3. theohall - Isgrimnur
4. Remus West
5. Lassr - Isgrimnur
6.Lagom Lite
7.Isgrimnur - Scoop
8. stessier
9. Chaosraven

Votes against
Isgrimnur 4
Scoop 1

Voting is Closed

Yikes, 6 hours since voting closed. Guess that means he's trying to get the night kill from Scoop and Chaos so he can end it in one swoop.

I won't be able to check back until later.

WoW I had to read tha a couple times cause my brain just couldn't wrap around it this early in the morning since I guess Bubbles had a issues with his copy and past again, but technically according to the list there are only 3 votes against Isg.

[stessier]

[Scoop20906]

Ok, I won't turn in my orders until Bubbles gives me a deadline for the night so we can discuss this and make the right choice tomorrow.

Right now, Lassr is the only known and unless Theohall/Chaos/KK decide he is more of a threat then me (LOL, stranger things could happen) then Lassr will have a strong influence on the vote tomorrow.

Right now all of my money is on Theohall. He fits the voting pattern with both he and Isgrimnur voting for Remus West and for me. He also was completely and utterly positive I was evil and thats a big tell that he already KNEW I was the detective being the Doctor.

However, we can't ignore KK and Chaos either. KK and Chaos has been pretty busy with work and RL. Yeah, we have heard that excuse before from the baddies so it all has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Luckily, I won't be the one to have to make that decision but if you have have any questions, I will be on the other side of the steel door soon. My speech may be a little muffled though.

I'm planning on scanning theohall.

I'm looking forward to the post game discussion to hear why Theohall and Isgrimnur chose to spoof a role they didn't know was dead.

[Mr Bubbles]

The crowd descended on Isgrimnur and proceed to use him as a human battering ram.

"Let's see if we can break down the door with Isgrimnur" screamed Chaosraven.

They get a running start and run Isgrimnur head first into the door.

Door 1, Isgrimnur 0

The door remained unmoved, but as he layed there dead they noticed a key popped out of Isgrimnur's pocket. They quickly search him and find some more belongings. Among the belongings they find Ass Molding for Dummies.

"Well considering a Doctor would know how to do this, looks like we caught the Assistant!"

They quickly use the key to open the door and see what lies behind it.

"Another Door" cries Lassr "Oh for goodness sake"

Detective who will you scan?

Doctor who will you add to your collection?

Assistant who will you scan?

[Scoop20906]

Ok, its all yours guys.

I'm scanning Theohall tonight unless someone has a reason not too.

My suggestion is vote  Theohall 
 

[Scoop20906]

BTW, I won't put my order into until everyone has had a chance to say something.

[Remus West]

1. Kenetickid - Remus West
2. Scoop20906 - Isgrimnur
3. theohall - Isgrimnur
4. Remus West
5. Lassr - Isgrimnur
6.Lagom Lite
7.Isgrimnur - Scoop
8. stessier
9. Chaosraven

Votes against
Isgrimnur 4
Scoop 1

Voting is Closed

Talk about kicking a guy when he is down. Back off KK, I'm already dead.

[theohall]

BTW, I won't put my order into until everyone has had a chance to say something.

Since Isgrimnur was the evil assistant, Lassr is the only trustworthy one left. It's extremely doubtful you make it through the evening, Scoop, so not sure how valuable your scan will be. By all means, scan me anyway, in case the Doctor does screw up. This way we can narrow the field to two.

If you don't make it though, that would leave me, Kenetickid or Chaosraven as the Doctor.

[Kenetickid]

I'm good with Theo being scanned and I know you prolly wont make it to morning to let us know how the scan came out, but from Isg's "claim" he said that me and Theo were both Tourists and completely safe. Well, the given is that you cover your partner wit ha fake "scan" saying that he is safe and then you throw anther name into the hat to make it look good.

Since we know that Isg was the assistant he had the ability to scan as well. So one of the 2 people that he put out there can most asuradly be his partner. I for one can honestly tell you that I am a Tourist and NOT the doctor.

Theo left himself a bit open to suspicion with his anger and frustration with scoop's refusal to remove his vote for Isg. So my vote for tomorrow will most likely be unless for some unfathomable reason Scoop lives till morning.

[Scoop20906]

Yeah, the Doctor could decide to take out Lassr with the hope that I could be faking being the Detective and could in fact be the Doctor who gave up his Doctor's Assistant to get credibility as the Detective.

If thats the case and I am around tomorrow, I will be able to report of Theohall is the doctor or not. If he isn't then Theohall and I would have to choose between KK or Chaosraven.

Thats the only other play I can see them making.

[Chaosraven]

Yeah, the Doctor could decide to take out Lassr with the hope that I could be faking being the Detective and could in fact be the Doctor who gave up his Doctor's Assistant to get credibility as the Detective.

Ok I think I have read enough LordMortis to interpret that as "the hope that THE REST OF YOU THINK that I could"

But reading it without a LordMortis Filter I was all "wait, WHAT?"

[Scoop20906]

Yeah, the Doctor could decide to take out Lassr with the hope that I could be faking being the Detective and could in fact be the Doctor who gave up his Doctor's Assistant to get credibility as the Detective.

Ok I think I have read enough LordMortis to interpret that as "the hope that THE REST OF YOU THINK that I could"

But reading it without a LordMortis Filter I was all "wait, WHAT?"

That didn't come out right.

Let me try again.

1. I could be the Doctor. I know the Detective is dead.
2. I tell the Doctor's Assistant to spoof the Detective role.
3. I counter and announce I am the Detective.
4. I get my Doctor's Assistant killed and gain trust I am the Detective (who is already dead).
5. I live to the next day and give my next scan naming someone as the Doctor.
6. Everyone votes to kill him and evil wins.

I see that as the only way that Doctor Theohall could let me live.

[Chaosraven]

Yeah, the Doctor could decide to take out Lassr with the hope that I could be faking being the Detective and could in fact be the Doctor who gave up his Doctor's Assistant to get credibility as the Detective.

Ok I think I have read enough LordMortis to interpret that as "the hope that THE REST OF YOU THINK that I could"

But reading it without a LordMortis Filter I was all "wait, WHAT?"

That didn't come out right.

Let me try again.

1. I could be the Doctor. I know the Detective is dead.
2. I tell the Doctor's Assistant to spoof the Detective role.
3. I counter and announce I am the Detective.
4. I get my Doctor's Assistant killed and gain trust I am the Detective (who is already dead).
5. I live to the next day and give my next scan naming someone as the Doctor.
6. Everyone votes to kill him and evil wins.

I see that as the only way that Doctor Theohall could let me live.

This is why I found either of you as Faking was Bizarre.
If the Fake Detective had simply offered up "PlayerX" as BADGUY, would we have ignored the potential?

[Scoop20906]

Yeah, the Doctor could decide to take out Lassr with the hope that I could be faking being the Detective and could in fact be the Doctor who gave up his Doctor's Assistant to get credibility as the Detective.

Ok I think I have read enough LordMortis to interpret that as "the hope that THE REST OF YOU THINK that I could"

But reading it without a LordMortis Filter I was all "wait, WHAT?"

That didn't come out right.

Let me try again.

1. I could be the Doctor. I know the Detective is dead.
2. I tell the Doctor's Assistant to spoof the Detective role.
3. I counter and announce I am the Detective.
4. I get my Doctor's Assistant killed and gain trust I am the Detective (who is already dead).
5. I live to the next day and give my next scan naming someone as the Doctor.
6. Everyone votes to kill him and evil wins.

I see that as the only way that Doctor Theohall could let me live.

This is why I found either of you as Faking was Bizarre.
If the Fake Detective had simply offered up "PlayerX" as BADGUY, would we have ignored the potential?

Thats very possible. However, he would have me (the real detective) and the victim arguing and voting against him.

[Chaosraven]

This is why I found either of you as Faking was Bizarre.
If the Fake Detective had simply offered up "PlayerX" as BADGUY, would we have ignored the potential?

Thats very possible. However, he would have me (the real detective) and the victim arguing and voting against him.

Don't forget you had not come forward. Any of his NonScans would therefore have been a Win for Evil. Why leave to chance a loss by leaving his partner among those we would lynch?

[theohall]

This is why I found either of you as Faking was Bizarre.
If the Fake Detective had simply offered up "PlayerX" as BADGUY, would we have ignored the potential?

Thats very possible. However, he would have me (the real detective) and the victim arguing and voting against him.

Don't forget you had not come forward. Any of his NonScans would therefore have been a Win for Evil. Why leave to chance a loss by leaving his partner among those we would lynch?

Maybe he did not name his partner - which would only leave one possibility - which is what probably has you so concerned.

[Scoop20906]

I'm going to wait for Lassr and KK to check in before submitting my order.

[Chaosraven]

This is why I found either of you as Faking was Bizarre.
If the Fake Detective had simply offered up "PlayerX" as BADGUY, would we have ignored the potential?

Thats very possible. However, he would have me (the real detective) and the victim arguing and voting against him.

Don't forget you had not come forward. Any of his NonScans would therefore have been a Win for Evil. Why leave to chance a loss by leaving his partner among those we would lynch?

Maybe he did not name his partner - which would only leave one possibility - which is what probably has you so concerned.

It would seem an obvious gamble that with 3 Players dead, of 7 NonEvil, only 4 remain so the odds of a dead Detective are decent, particularly if any of the Assistant Scans are among the living 4.

As noted, the critical moment was at 6. With a single Miss the game was over.

[Chaosraven]

Leaving his partner among the Potential Lynches would have been a foolhardy gamble.

[Kenetickid]

I'm going to wait for Lassr and KK to check in before submitting my order.

Your waiting for Lassr then cause I have already checked in pre night shift.

[Scoop20906]

I'm going to wait for Lassr and KK to check in before submitting my order.

Your waiting for Lassr then cause I have already checked in pre night shift.

Sorry about that.

[Lassr]

Here.

It's take your kids to work today so we just got through we the tours.

Go for it. I'll check back tonight. What a relief that Isgrimnur was evil!

[Scoop20906]

Ok, my order is in. I guess I got a date with Remus West's butt.

[Newcastle]

Here.

It's take your kids to work today so we just got through we the tours.

and this is obviously part of your work

[Lassr]

I can't imagine Scoop and Isgrimnur both being evil when they just needed one kill yesterday. All they would need to do is have one claim Detective and force a lynch elsewhere. If both are evil then that guaranteed that one of them would be lynched thus delaying the evil victory a couple of nights.

[Lassr]

Here.

It's take your kids to work today so we just got through we the tours.

and this is obviously part of your work

Ha, yeah, they just asked me what I was doing.

[Mr Bubbles]

Once again everyone wakes up to see who is next. The mood is markedly somber.

"Welp, looks like it's Scoop." said Kenetickid "who would have thought."

A note on the bulletin board thanked the group for the latest edition to his creation. It was stressed that Scoop was put into the back of the train.

1. Kenetickid
2. Scoop20906
3. theohall
4. Remus West
5. Lassr
6.Lagom Lite
7.Isgrimnur
8. stessier
9. Chaosraven

It is now day. Who will you lynch to stop this nightmare.

[Lassr]

this is it.

At this moment I think it's between theohall and kenetickid.

Would Isgrimnur leave out a partner in his list of scans. Since he had 2 tourists meant we had to choose 2 people not on his list to lynch. If you are going to make this bold move of faking the detective when you don't even know if he is dead then I can't imagine you leaving the only other evil out there to be lynched. I would think he would add his partner to the list.

I am the Detective and I scanned theohall and KeneticKid.

If he had gone unchallenged then the 2 bad guys to me were Scoop & Chaosraven
to Scoop it would have been Lassr & Chaosraven
to Chaosraven -Lassr & Scoop.

Chaosraven as an evil had the potential of getting 2 votes right off the bat. Vote off and find evil Chaosraven then Isgrimnur lives through the night would have been instant loss for bad guys.

theohall looks the most evil but don't jump to conclusions until we can talk it over.

[theohall]

[Lassr]

Anyone else think stessier may have been our seer?

Thought crossed my mind with a few of his posts.

Well that sucks, if he was, Lassr, but have to admit I was thinking the same thing.

Back when I originally asked this question my goal was to see who would admit to thinking stessier may have been the seer. Obviously stessier would be a prime target for the evil twins if they thought he was the detective. It was a long shot but worth an attempt. theohall jumped in and admitted it.

Evils #1 goal each night is to try and find the detective. stessier died and theohall thought he might be the detective.

kenetickid's activity has been low so it's hard to find anything damning on him.

[theohall]

Thoughts:

1) Isgrimnur named his evil partner in hopes of protecting him. This would mean myself or Kenetickid is the Doctor. In either case, Kenetickid or I sacrificed the Assistant.
2) Isgrminur did not name his partner and named the folks he actually scanned with real info in hopes of acquiring their trust. Didn't work, but that would mean Chaosraven is the Doctor.

Both options are risky.

The question - which Chaosraven raised - why didn't Isgrimnur name one of us as evil, instead? It's moot, now, but raises the spectre of would Isgrimnur risk is partner by calling him a Tourist, or not naming him at all?

[Chaosraven]

I believe it to be theohall.

We will need 3/4 to achieve Majority today so we should have plenty of time to discuss.

1. Kenetickid
3. theohall
5. Lassr - TOURIST
9. Chaosraven

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2. Scoop20906 - Detective (claim and killed by evil at night)

Some basics - Isgrimnur left Lassr, Scoop, and Chaosraven as the Viable targets, and said he believed Lassr to be a tourist but not scanned.
Isgrimnur, in listing his scans, puts theohall FIRST. But theohall isn't first in order of the list.
Isgrimnur, after claiming he scanned KK as tourist, lumps him WITH Chaosraven as Conspicuously Quiet.

We know it cannot be Lassr.
I know it cannot be Chaosraven, and logic for the Spoof means leaving his partner in the Potential Lynch is a Pointless Risk as it was the Last Chance
So from MY POV then Isgrimnur did indeed put his partner within his two Tourist Scans.

The thing to do is examine what he said and why he said it.

Why throw suspicion on KK, why the reverse order, etc.

Time to go back and check the interactivity between them, and early posts by these three

[theohall]

Good luck finding anything in posts from Kenetickid. He has been excessively quiet as well. Almost tru1cy quiet.

[Kenetickid]

Yes I have been excessevly quiet, but that is for two reasons:

1) Have alot of RL crap going on and noth much time actually at the comp,
2) with the lack of anything really going on until recently I have felt no real need to post and be a chatter box (which coincedently raises just as much suspicion as being quiet so whichever).

So after scoop claimed Dective we all figured he was going to be carted off last night wich is what happened. The current debate is which amung us left is the Doctor.

Isgrmnur Named Theohall and myself as tourists. Did he put his partner in there to protect him? Why wouldn't he. It is to risky with the excessively small pool of suspects left to leave your partner out in the open to be voted for.

I have had very little interaction with anyone at all besides the occasional comment and voting so ofcourse the suspicion is on me. The odd thing aboout me being quiet is because the only basis for comparison is the last game where Theo and I were arguing across multiple days and we turned out to be on the same side. Now with that said it begs the question. Wouold Theo being the doctor play off of that in hopes that it will deter a small amount threat from being cast his why? Again why wouldn't he. Any and all avaliable means of hiding are open for the taking. The other question I have. Why was Theo so adamantly angry with Scoop for not removing his vote after he claimed Dectective to counter Isgimnur? I suspect THeo was angry because he knew that wasa key point in weather or not we cast are suspisions towards Isg or scoop after the claim/counter.

My current way of thinking leads me to believe that THeo is the Doctor, but I will wait for others before cast a condeming vote.