[WW] TRON - Game Over - End of Line

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:39 pm

Newcastle wrote:I would bet that the reason this is taking so long is truicy, who previously mentioned he was having spotty internet access this weak.

Freudian slip???

I feel for you Coop. I'm much more laid back now, but when I first started in these games, I was constantly checking and tracking stuff. Hopefully Scoop gives you your fix soon.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:48 pm

tru1cy wrote:ezmate - My participation will be spotty at best till Friday as I moved into a new apartment on Friday and Comcrap (only provider in my area) won't be out till Thursday to install internet and cable

I'm not entirely comfortable passing this turn

Nope - no slip ...the above is from his post on Monday AM.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:50 pm

stessier wrote:
Newcastle wrote:I would bet that the reason this is taking so long is truicy, who previously mentioned he was having spotty internet access this weak.

I think your true feelings are showing through.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:53 pm

ah stessier, peck away till dusk

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:54 pm

You have something better to do?

We could all take turns singing Kumbaya, I guess...

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:58 pm

stessier wrote:You have something better to do?

Let's all announce our roles!

I'm Coop and according to tru1cy I'm MCP and according to Austin I'm Thorne. These both explain why I am fighting for a Users victory. I'm sad nobody has accused me of being Flynn yet. I'm sure the truth is going to disappoint everyone involved.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 pm

I kind of really hope coop is Thorne and Unagi/Austin are the punks. That would mean they played really well up to this point. If not, then this game is just sort of random. Which is fine - just random.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:07 pm

i'm....duuuuude...like yeah, like seriously..totally rad...its like so awesome dude...you feeling me? Yeah man its just like rocking to be who mess is.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:19 pm

stessier wrote:I kind of really hope coop is Thorne and Unagi/Austin are the punks. That would mean they played really well up to this point. If not, then this game is just sort of random. Which is fine - just random.

I kind of want the game to end so we can see who was who. Maybe then I can figure what the hell you all were doing this whole time.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:36 pm

Duh, stessier is Sark. Lassr/Unagi are/were the twins. Tru1cy is Flynn. One of the quiet ones is MCP. Coop is Thorne. I copied and pasted this info from scoopzip.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:04 pm

MOD notes: Sorry guys, you do not want to know how this day has gone. Good news, after I go get our car fixed tomorrow morning at 7:00 am I will start processed as the time limit just got reached. I apologize for the tardiness.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:05 am

Real Life trumps Game, dude. We'll be here.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:54 pm

Darn corruption messing up everything!

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:06 pm

I got header info, the game is moving again!

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:27 pm

System Uptime 5

System Uptime commencing in 3 - 2 - 1 - System fully online.

Kevin Flynn: Your old man's about to knock on the sky and listen to the sound.

As the system came online a bright blinding beam of light shown greatly on the horizon.

USERS Victory Condition:
10 Clean programs - 10
2 Infected Programs - 4
Permission bits needed - 14

ISGRIMNUR - 3 permission bits
Chaosraven - 5 permission bits
Qantaga - 1 permission bit
Coopasonic - 6 permission bits
Users controlled 15 Permission bits.

USERS Victory Condition Met!

ENCOM Victory Condition:
Flynn Lives
2 programs infected

CORRUPTION Victory Condition
13 programs
2 programs infected

Flynn has acquired the permission bits necessary to defeat the MCP's firewall and open the system. As Flynn left the sytem he also opened the data steam to full. For what seemed like the first time, programs drank deep the information from the outside world and accessed networks long forgotten as well as new sources of information. The MCP no longer maintained control. His position of power gone, Flynn decided against derezzing the program and instead locked down his access to only non-essential commands along with this followers. Thorne's rebellion of corruption had failed as well as Flynn disinfected the last of the programs making the System fully clean.

But like any rebellion, now that freedom was gained what would be done now? What choices lie ahead and how would the choices of the past affect the future?

Programs, the choice was yours.

Which side did you choose to fight for?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:28 pm

Winning Team - USERS
SEAL_ISGRIMNUR - Flynn
BABY_REMUS_WEST - Tron
STCH_STESSIER - Quorra
EMPY_QANTAGA - USER Team
SMPN_CHAOSRAVEN - User Team
THIF_NEWCASTLE - User Team
YCAR_COOPASONIC - User Team
MOON_RMC- User Team

Losing Team - ENCOM
AFRI_AUSTIN - MCP
BNDK_TRU1CY - Sark
POPP_MR_BUBBLES - Encom Team
RBRD_THEOHALL - Encom Team

Losing Team - CORRUPTION
DNGR_LASSR - Thorne
SUSI_UNAGI - Daft Punk
ALIN_SECTOID - Daft Punk
DAVB_LAGOM_LITE - Corruption Team

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:34 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:2 programs infected

Austin and Tru1cy.

:steps forward:

To the five programs that joined me to fight for us users, I thank you. It truly was a group effort, and I look forward to ensuring a free system for all of us.

I got my three bits on the first downtime, used my backup to save coopasonic when they attempted to derezz him, and cleaned Qantaga while scanning last night to see who else was not feeling at 100% efficiency.

Scoop, thanks for running a great game. I had a blast.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:35 pm

MOD Notes: Wow, great game everyone. This game exceeded my expectations and tasked my abilities as a moderator as well. There is a ton of tweaking to be done to make this rulez set "MORE FUN" but overall I was ecstatic with everyone's involvement and enjoyment with the game as well as all the helpful comments and critiques of the rulez.

If you are interested you can take a look at my cheat sheet here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... y=CLj6q5YB

Its not easy to read but it does lay out how the game progressed. There are just too many details for me to go back and created an accurate time line.

I also made one major mistake. Unagi was Corruption and he found the Sector Map and I allowed him to use it before I realized my mistake. Luckily it didn't seem to affect the course of the game but I wanted everyone aware of the mistake.

So, there is alot of good things to draw from this game. I've already started on updating the rulez so please give me your feedback now while everything is fresh in your minds.

Scoop

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:54 pm

Grats scoop! Was rough to get a handle on first, but i got drawn into it. Glad to see the users succeed! Was enjoyable, though my one complaint is the many moving parts, and getting a handle on the lexicon, outside of that...was enjoyable.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:55 pm

I'm from MA and 33 is a legend there. Not so much here in WI.

There, was that subtle enough?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:59 pm

You know - we only lynch 1 person and both candidates were excellent choices. Go USERS!

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:01 pm

I want to know why Lagom derezzed me. I really have no clue as to why he did that. There really was no point to anyone derezzing anyone else, save for maybe Sark or MCP trying to hit programs that had a bunch of permission bits so that they would be lost. Team Corruption couldn't be certain they were not taking each other out - Thorne could have hit either Daft Punk and either of them could have hit him. Any unnamed that joined them - as Lagom did risked hitting one of those three.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:04 pm

Spreadsheet is a little hard to follow (but thank you for keeping it!).

How did Lassr know Unagi was a Punk?

Austin, why did you send me that message? Why would I ever not respond or doubt that?

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:19 pm

Few things as Sark. Having the back ups basically killed Sark derezz ability. Made it useless.

There need to be some type of night time or day time kill.

The lack of information made it hard to gather whats going on.

Making Neutrals choose a side is a novel idea, but allowing them to switch during downtime will normally hurt ENCOM as none one wants ENCOM to win. Need to give better reason to pick a side and remain with it

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:23 pm

stessier wrote:Spreadsheet is a little hard to follow (but thank you for keeping it!).

How did Lassr know Unagi was a Punk?

Austin, why did you send me that message? Why would I ever not respond or doubt that?

I was bored and trying to stir things up? Just to see what happens? I dunno... it was kind of a blind game. I picked up admin rights right away but never got a derezz.

I tried to play with pings a bit by pinging info to Thorne and flynn to see who responded. A couple nights ago I stopped, hoping that someone would mention maybe MCP being dead. I was not really sure how to proceed in this one.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:24 pm

Also, having 3 sector scans and getting more stuff wasn't as cool as you could only use 2/night anyway.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:25 pm

stessier wrote: How did Lassr know Unagi was a Punk?

Newcastle was infected and I didn't do it. At that the time you and Unagi were infected by me and I knew you wouldn't be pushing for the virus scan if you were daft punk. I was ready to infect the other daft punk and I would have gotten away with too if it wasn't for that pesky Austin...at least he lost also.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:26 pm

Lassr wrote:
stessier wrote: How did Lassr know Unagi was a Punk?
Newcastle was infected and I didn't do it. At that the time you and Unagi were infected by me and I knew you wouldn't be pushing for the virus scan if you were daft punk. I was ready to infect the other daft punk and I would have gotten away with too if it wasn't for that pesky Austin...at least he lost also.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:29 pm

Austin wrote: I tried to play with pings a bit by pinging info to Thorne and flynn to see who responded. A couple nights ago I stopped, hoping that someone would mention maybe MCP being dead. I was not really sure how to proceed in this one.

Same here. Only useful ping I sent was to Unagi so he could point out his partner in the game to me. (that quoting of Sectoid with the word infecton was the clue).
I also stopped sending messages hoping to fool some into thinking i was dead.

Curious, why the hell did Sectoid vote for me? By killing me he doomed himself and Unagi to lose also!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:34 pm

the night Austin scanned me I did hit the mother load. 3 permission bits and a virus scan. I tried to use that to point at Austin and hoped he would get derezzed.

Corruption side needs to be tweaked, it was almost impossible to win with all the virus scan & anti-virus programs out there. But it was a very fun game just needs some upgrades for Tron 2.0

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:36 pm

I also derezzed RMC, some of his posts made him seem like Quorra, obviously he was not.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:54 am

Remus West wrote:I want to know why Lagom derezzed me. I really have no clue as to why he did that.

Just for lulz.

Seriously, I thought the best way to victory was Corruption, and I felt pretty sure you were a special, and not on the Corruption team.

I didn't have much handle on what was going on after a while, and lost interest in the game, especially after I derezzed you and recieved no info on who you were.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:56 am

Isgrimnur wrote: I got my three bits on the first downtime, used my backup to save coopasonic when they attempted to derezz him, and cleaned Qantaga while scanning last night to see who else was not feeling at 100% efficiency.

I had a backup on myself at the time and another executed last time. I wasn't going anywhere.

I guess my instincts were pretty good as the system scans I executed got 2 named, Isgrimnur and tru1cy.

I had a set of admin rights as well, but never got a derezz. If I had I may have considered ENCOM, but I was pretty well convinced the Users could still pull it out. You can see my bit count and I knew Isgrmnur had 3, he got those on downtime 0. I really thought there would be more.

Anyway that was a fun experience and glad that RMC was in the game so he could get knocked out as the new guy and not me.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:14 am

And that is part of over-thinking. When coop made a remark about MCP maybe being dead after the night I ceased pinging Thorne and Flynn, I decided that it was likely he was one of those two. I told Flynn and thorne to calm down at one point and one responded that my lapdog needed to calm down and stop derezzing everyone. That made me think that maybe Tru1cy or Lassr were Flynn or Thorne as I could see either actually responding and in such a manner - now I assume it was Unagi but it could have been either one.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:51 am

Excellent game. Thanks Scoop!

Thank you Isgrimnur for the last minute cleansing.

I was confuzled most of the game, but it was a lot of fun. I logged in early to the Users and never was a member of any other team, so it feels good to skate free of the MCP.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:46 am

One of the fixes in my mind is to not make it so easy to switch teams. Unname programs will start of as neutal and then have the choice to login/join a team and gain the advantages/disadvantages of that team and then you are permanently on that team.

However, I'm thinking about creating some "login" code (maybe 1 per neutral program) that can be found and used at anytime. Obviously, the named programs won't be able to use it. That was it is still possible to switch teams.

System scans will stay the same (shows inventory and team).

Virus scans will only allow programs to scan (2) programs at the beginning of the game and then only (1) program once half of programs are derezzed. Now Thorne WON'T scan as clean ever.

Anti-virus programs will be reduced to (1) per program however the ENCOM team will gain either a new named program or ability to clean the infection. Not sure what yet.

Backups will be reduced to only (5) so Sark is more of a terror.

Derezz will now announce the program's inventory and team name. (still one give up the named programs unless people are dying for it).

How does all this sound?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:54 am

I like the rules adjustments. But now it looks like ENCOM has a very rough road to victory. May want to adjust their victory condition (that allows for some infections to be present) because if they have to eliminate all infections then that will be tough with limited scans.

Maybe Sark and MCP cannot be infected, and no more than 2 other programs can be infected, for ENCOM to win.

Sectoid · Post by **Sectoid** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:00 pm

Lassr wrote:
Austin wrote: I tried to play with pings a bit by pinging info to Thorne and flynn to see who responded. A couple nights ago I stopped, hoping that someone would mention maybe MCP being dead. I was not really sure how to proceed in this one.
Same here. Only useful ping I sent was to Unagi so he could point out his partner in the game to me. (that quoting of Sectoid with the word infecton was the clue).
I also stopped sending messages hoping to fool some into thinking i was dead.

Curious, why the hell did Sectoid vote for me? By killing me he doomed himself and Unagi to lose also!

I will always vote for moving the game along. I'm taking a break from these for a while. I keep making people lose through my stupidity. Either that or I am a bot.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:05 pm

Lassr wrote:I also derezzed RMC, some of his posts made him seem like Quorra, obviously he was not.

Man I was so just stirring the pot... Guess that's why I got deaders...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:58 pm

I enjoyed the game. Some flaws, but a lot of potential.

I will give this more text tomorrow, where I think I will likely have some time at work. (got a sick wife and two sick kids today.)