[WW] TRON - Game Over - End of Line

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:05 pm

I predict coop is Thorne.

Edit - for the record that is

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:23 pm

Unagi wrote:So, I have some information too, that we may want to act on.

coopasonic wrote:For what it is worth, I am quite sure I am not MCP or any other named program for that matter.
So then Coop, why were you dishonest about

coopasonic wrote:I'll take 15 and 16
since there was a Back up and a Virus Scan in sector 15 the following Downtime.

The implication to me is that you either had just 1 scan, or you had a lot of scans and were 'claiming' sectors while scanning others.

I'm not clear on why you have the information you have (sector map?) but this one is easy, I was reserving sectors while scanning others. I scanned 15 last night and got exactly what you name. With the exception of the first night where i Was honest and the second night where I had no prior claim, I've claimed sectors and then scanned the sectors I claimed the previous night.

The first night I was honest and the discussion taught me this was not the best policy. I'm sure I'm not the only one to make this decision. My header info looks much more like what Lassr claims to have. In fact if Lassr actually had what he claims and was on team Users last night we probably would have won, because that would have given 11 permission bits to team Users based on just 3 people and old information from my previous system scans. With all the other users we should have had enough easily.

At this point I've revealed way more than I want to, but I think it reveals Lassr's lie about who he is and what he has.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:41 pm

Austin wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:You have claimed he is lying, but not claimed a team or identity, nor divulged the remainder of your inventory
Team user.
Header info:
Virus Scan, Anti Virus, Permission Bit, Permission Bit, Permission Bit, Permission Bit.

Seems he wants those derezzed.
Why lie?

system scan Lassr...
Header Info:
Permission Bit, Anti-Virus

Team:
CORRUPTION

I actually did not realize that the Scan would give me your team. That was a nice bonus.

Austin wrote:He also has only one permission bit and a virus scan.

So which is it? Do I have a virus scan or anti-virus?

I actually have both. But why the confusion on your part.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:42 pm

coopasonic wrote: At this point I've revealed way more than I want to, but I think it reveals Lassr's lie about who he is and what he has.

nice team work.

Derezz me, you guys don't deserve my bits.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:45 pm

Oh what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive. I joined USERS, and wonder if perhaps we want to count claimed PBs...

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:06 pm

Sectoid · Post by **Sectoid** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:49 am

Lassr wrote:
coopasonic wrote: At this point I've revealed way more than I want to, but I think it reveals Lassr's lie about who he is and what he has.
nice team work.

Derezz me, you guys don't deserve my bits.

I'm hurt.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:54 am

Lassr wrote:
Austin wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:You have claimed he is lying, but not claimed a team or identity, nor divulged the remainder of your inventory
Team user.
Header info:
Virus Scan, Anti Virus, Permission Bit, Permission Bit, Permission Bit, Permission Bit.

Seems he wants those derezzed.
Why lie?

system scan Lassr...
Header Info:
Permission Bit, Anti-Virus

Team:
CORRUPTION

I actually did not realize that the Scan would give me your team. That was a nice bonus.

Austin wrote:He also has only one permission bit and a virus scan.
So which is it? Do I have a virus scan or anti-virus?

I actually have both. But why the confusion on your part.

Anti-virus. My mistake, I was in a rush with the votes piling on and wanted to get my info out before I went afk. When you said I was wrong I went back and double checked my PM and copied and pasted.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:55 am

Lassr

Sectoid · Post by **Sectoid** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:13 am

Austin wrote: Lassr

Damn, I wanted to lead the train on Lassr...again...

Lassr

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:34 am

Anyone have a vote count?

And any special reason we are finally trusting people?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:36 am

Sectoid wrote:
Austin wrote: Lassr

Damn, I wanted to lead the train on Lassr...again...

Lassr

didn't work out well last time did it.
With the team switching, seems derezzed programs are losers no matter which team wins so "screw you guys, I'm going home."

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:36 am

stessier wrote:Anyone have a vote count?

And any special reason we are finally trusting people?

I trust myself... barely.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:37 am

Austin wrote: When you said I was wrong I went back and double checked my PM and copied and pasted.

uh huh...a big no-no if you had really done that.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:38 am

Lassr wrote:
Austin wrote: When you said I was wrong I went back and double checked my PM and copied and pasted.
uh huh...a big no-no if you had really done that.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:40 am

Lassr wrote:
Austin wrote: When you said I was wrong I went back and double checked my PM and copied and pasted.
uh huh...a big no-no if you had really done that.

He just copy/pasted the names, not the rest. Or do we have some magical way to tell Scoop's Anti-Virus from Austin's Anti-Virus?

Austin wrote:

Copying Mod text is verbotten.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:42 am

Missed that, and been a while. That said, I copied text, no formatting - just to be sure I did not mess up the actual info. Mea culpa.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:46 am

Votes:
tru1cy (3) - coopasonic, isgrimnur, newcastle
lassr (2) - Austin, Sectoid

Players with no vote:
lassr, Stessier, Mr Bubbles, Unagi, tru1cy, Qantaga, Lagom Lite, chaosraven,

Majority is 7 votes.

The hard deadline to terminate is Wednesday, February 16, 2011 by 10:00 pm (Eastern Time Zone). If no majority is met by the hard deadline we will move to Downtime 4 and there will be no termination.

Please let me know if I missed something.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:50 am

Austin

ahhhh, memories.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:51 am

Austin wrote:Missed that, and been a while. That said, I copied text, no formatting - just to be sure I did not mess up the actual info. Mea culpa.

MOD Notes: Sorry Austin but you did break the rulez.

Private Messaging / Forum Posts:
Text sent to players by the Moderator may not be copied and/or shared with other players at any time.

And there can be only one consequence...

>MOD derezz AFRI_AUSTIN

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JUST KIDDING!!! AUSTIN HAS NOT BE DEREZZED.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:59 am

My god, Scoop.

my reaction: "you have got to be kidding me"
and then I scrolled down.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:07 am

Unagi wrote:My god, Scoop.

my reaction: "you have got to be kidding me"
and then I scrolled down.

Now would be a time I would love to have a derezz in my pocket...

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:09 am

Yeah, I was like SoaB! But then I realized that doing so would confirm that I actually copied and pasted and he cannot do so.

(But I'll behave)

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:10 am

Anyway, back to the matter at hand. Lassr has irregularities that beg him to be dispatched.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:13 am

Unagi wrote:My god, Scoop.

my reaction: "you have got to be kidding me"
and then I scrolled down.

So it seems Scoop is reinforcing Austin's allegation, which I already suspected (and state as much) was true.

Even so, I still think the Users can possibly pull out a win tonight by lynching tru1cy and taking his permission bits. Lassr can be handled after that if we don't win. Users team would potentially have between 7 and 11 people and if Quorra cleans whoever was infected, assuming someone else was infected and tru1cy is gone, the win count goes down by 1 and the PB count should go up. Also any neutrals that haven't joined Users and have PB could put us over the top as well.

Lassr can easily be taken down next time. I'd rather wait because if Austin is right, Lassr has no bit to share so we don't get as much advantage out of him.

I retierate, if you are a neutral program, our best chance right now is with a Users victory by joining Users and lynching tru1cy.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:17 am

How do you know tru1cy has permission bits right now? If he is Sark, he's been spending them everyday.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:23 am

coopasonic wrote:I retierate, if you are a neutral program, our best chance right now is with a Users victory by joining Users and lynching tru1cy.

Coop, you are incorrect. I've seen the Map, and I have a little more information than you. The User victory is actually going to be very hard for a majority of the neutral programs to win with.

We have a lot of active programs.

A lot of them could win, or a lot of them need to be terminated. (can't be both)

Seems like the fork in the road.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:26 am

stessier wrote:How do you know tru1cy has permission bits right now? If he is Sark, he's been spending them everyday.

I think that coop's angle is that tru1cy is MCP (lots of stuff in his head from having a lot of scans), not that he's Sark.

(and with this post, stessier just flashed to us all that he's Sark, did ya see that?)

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:27 am

coopasonic wrote:
Unagi wrote:My god, Scoop.

my reaction: "you have got to be kidding me"
and then I scrolled down.

So it seems Scoop is reinforcing Austin's allegation, which I already suspected (and state as much) was true.

MOD NOTES: Negative, Coop. I am not reinforcing anyone's allegations. If in fact Austin or anyone else had broken a rule I would NOT announced it in the main thread but would have PMed the person directly with an admonishment to not do it again.

I saw an opportunity to have some fun and didn't realize the consequence of my actions as Moderator. Sorry about that guys.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:44 am

Unagi wrote:
coopasonic wrote:I retierate, if you are a neutral program, our best chance right now is with a Users victory by joining Users and lynching tru1cy.
Coop, you are incorrect. I've seen the Map, and I have a little more information than you. The User victory is actually going to be very hard for a majority of the neutral programs to win with.

We have a lot of active programs.

A lot of them could win, or a lot of them need to be terminated. (can't be both)

Seems like the fork in the road.

The only thing I can think of that the map would tell you is that there are a ton of PBs left to be picked up and that seems unlikely even if we are all a bunch of liars. I've personally seen the location of 11 of them through sector searches and system scans and the system scans were 2 downtimes ago so they may have more. With 13 active programs (12 after lynching) and what appears to be a minimum number infected we should only need 14 or 15 bits at most.

If your information tells you something else I'd love to hear it.

If Lassr is Thorne and we lynch him before he infects daft punk the corruption victory option is gone and all we have left is to kill Flynn.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:45 am

coopasonic wrote:If Lassr is Thorne and we lynch him before he infects daft punk the corruption victory option is gone and all we have left is to kill Flynn.

Kill Flynn while arguing for a User victory?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:48 am

stessier wrote:
coopasonic wrote:If Lassr is Thorne and we lynch him before he infects daft punk the corruption victory option is gone and all we have left is to kill Flynn.
Kill Flynn while arguing for a User victory?

Yeah, um - cOops?

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:03 pm

Unagi wrote:
stessier wrote:
coopasonic wrote:If Lassr is Thorne and we lynch him before he infects daft punk the corruption victory option is gone and all we have left is to kill Flynn.
Kill Flynn while arguing for a User victory?
Yeah, um - cOops?

no oops, that was assuming you are right about the Users victory not happening or being hard for the majority of neutrals, whatever that means.

Unagi wrote: A lot of them could win, or a lot of them need to be terminated. (can't be both)

I don't get where you are going with this. The only thing I can think is there are many unclaimed PBs but that seems unlikely.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:20 pm

Had some interesting finds last night, so I have to look into them, but I need time. I thought I would have more time, but didn't at this conference I just got back from, but will add something substantial tonight. I promise

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:26 pm

Austin wrote:Anyway, back to the matter at hand. Lassr has irregularities that beg him to be dispatched.

feed me some prunes instead.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:36 pm

Unagi wrote:
coopasonic wrote:I retierate, if you are a neutral program, our best chance right now is with a Users victory by joining Users and lynching tru1cy.
Coop, you are incorrect. I've seen the Map, and I have a little more information than you. The User victory is actually going to be very hard for a majority of the neutral programs to win with.

We have a lot of active programs.

A lot of them could win, or a lot of them need to be terminated. (can't be both)

Seems like the fork in the road.

hmmm. Would be nice to have more clarification. If we all teamed up on ENCOM or Corruption who would have the better chance of winning? ENCOM would have to clean or kill infected players, Corruption would have to worry about Quorra cleaning up his mess. ENCOM would have to eliminate Flynn, Corruption would have to eliminate or infect Quorra and possibly eliminate Flynn. If Quorra is alive then Daft Punk would have to assist Corruption to overcome her cleaning one per night. Just a thought if User victory is unattainable. Doesn't look like it's going to matter for me.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:41 pm

Lassr wrote:Corruption would have to eliminate or infect Quorra and possibly eliminate Flynn.

Quorra "cleans" after any infections, so - I think Quorra needs to be killed for a Corrupt victory. Actually, the one path (without the death of Quorra) would have been if Quorra accidentally "cleaned" Thorne as her final act (since he can't be cleaned).

But otherwise, the morning would alwasy start with Quorra's one target clean, and the Corruption victory delayed, yet again...

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:16 pm

withdraw truicy

lassr

/passes him some prunes

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:22 pm

withdraw tru1cy

lassr

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:24 pm

Not my first choice, but I'll go with it.

withdraw tru1cy

lassr