(WW) Bond II --spots available; deadline 9pm wed16

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:18 pm

Bond 2 - The Prometheus Dawn

AIMING TO START THURS-17 OR FRIDAY-18;

DEADLINE TO SIGN UP IS 9PM PACIFIC WEDNESDAY EVE

Game will be hosted in another thread. This is more for a discussion standpoint & signups. I am hoping for about 16 players. if not, can roll with whomever signs up.

See next post for character specifics & powers

Just indicate in this thread if you are interested. Also can discuss mechanics, but really not much to talk about, seems pretty straightforward. The game will be hosted in another thread.

Any comments feel free to let me know.

MI6- Good guys
Hunter – Has 1 shot, can shoot 1 target during day. Order must be submitted by N-1.
Seer – Can scan 1 target. Will find out role of player. Will not learn secret agent number.
Protector – At night can protect one person of his choosing. Can not choose same target back to back. He will find out if his target was successful or not.

VILLAINS
Boss – Orders night kill -
Henchman 1 (Berserker)– When lynched will be able to take 1 person with him.
Henchman 2- He has EMP powers. EMP powers - a 1 time ability of blocking all night time powers (scan & protection). Night kill still goes through. (this might change depending on the number of people signed up .

POTENTIAL ROLES & powers(if have a lot of signups)
-Bond Girl - will be first added in, if i get enough signatures, she will act as a "mortician; Mortician – good guys, is able to scan & find roles of deceased players. (I think 16 signatures and i will add the bond girl...i even have one in mind, but dont mind hearing if folks have a specific request)

-Henchman 3/traitor - a candidate is selected by the boss to recruit to join his team. Upon joining the new recruit loses all previous powers. – (if bond girl is added, then henchman 3 is added) (NOTE IF I add in this role, i will give him, the traitor the EMP Powers, & Henchman 2 will gain the Mortician powers).

boss - Is able to recruit 1 person to the bad side. If he recruits a good guy special, they lose their ability.

MECHANICS & NOTES
- I will add more roles as needed, if that’s an issue. Or if there is a huge interest.
-Marked for death will serve as lynching vehicle (same as a lynch vote)
-Chapter – will act as traditional “day” phase
-Interlude – acts as night phase when orders are sent in
-Everyone will be given a secret agent number. This is for flavor only.
-Game will start in the "Chapter"(Day) phase

QUESTIONS FOR PLAYERS

Order of operations:
Scans submitted
Protection order submitted
EMP order submitted
Night kill submitted & authorized
Scan results returned
Next turn starts

SIGN UPS & INTERESTED PARTIES
1. Quantaga
2. Theohall
3. MSteelers
4. RMC
5. Scoop
6. truicy
7. Remus
8. Lassr
9. Stessier
10. Rshetts2
11. Slim099
12. Unagi
13. Grundbegriff
14.
15.
16.

FAQ -
Q - Will the sides be revealed upon death? - A - Yes, they will know upon lynching if you have killed a MI6 agent or one of the villains
Q- Will there be a secret forum for the baddies? A- You betcha!
Q- Will evil find out roles of players they kill A- No, unless the mortician is added into the game.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:53 pm

The cast -

Bond – With a license to kill comes a great responsibility, You have your trusty PP7 on this adventure, you have been authorized to take out only 1 person in this venture. (Power– Has 1 shot, can only shoot during day, order must be submitted by N-1. )

Q – With the latest technologies at your disposal you have instant access to information. With this information you can crack into the background records of all agents. This background information reveals the agents real role. (Power - Seer, will find out role of player who the scan, will not learn secret agent number.)

M – As the head of the agency you have access to powers, at your whim you can put teams in place and move resources around. Once per night you can choose an elite team to protect a certain asset on this mission. Your resources will report to you whether they have prevented an attack or not. (Power - Can prevent an attack on an agent, cannot protect agents on consecutive nights; will be informed on a successful protection or not)

Villains

Hugo Drax - The power to shape and control the destinies of nations does not come to many in the world, but for you. IT has come now. Through careful planning and faithful execution to your ingenious plan you will bring countries to their knees, commodities under your influence and it will all be at your fingertips. This power will start with a freighter named Alexander and its fate. Powers - As the boss you can order the kills.

Oddjob – A talented caddy you are. Hiding the mistakes of your employer and advising on the proper club to take is one of your talents but your talents extend well past that. You are the muscle when its called upon, you are the fixer who will make sure that mouths stay silent. With your distinctive hat your pledge to Hugo Drax knows no bounds, even if it means your own life. (Powers - when lynched Odd Job will be able to take 1 person with him in death).

Erich Kriegler – As a former East German operative you are uncomfortable with the peace that has broken out. Your talents are no longer as appreciated. Business is now slow. You thrived with the uneasiness that the Cold War brought. You would prefer a state with the two sides skating distinctly on the brink of war, where men of your talent are in demand to this end Hugo Drax is the best man to follow. (Power – you have a 1 time ability to block all powers for an evening except for the night kill-including blocking).

EDIT -
Potential Changes

1. If enough sign up; Hugo drax will get the power to recruit an MI6 agent who will become the traitor. (Traitor powers - nothing)

2. If enough sign up, will add in a Bond girl who has the power to identify the dead. If this person is added in. Erich Kriegler will gain the power of mortician, and the traitor will gain the EMP powers.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:29 am

While I don't mind conversions that much personally (I'm always evil anyway), many players dislike having their victory conditions changed mid-game. I'd recommend against the Recruitment mechanic.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:12 pm

Queue me IN.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:41 am

Definitely IN.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:12 am

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:38 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:While I don't mind conversions that much personally (I'm always evil anyway), many players dislike having their victory conditions changed mid-game. I'd recommend against the Recruitment mechanic.

I kind of like conversions personally because it reshuffles the deck a bit and makes choices more thoughtful for lack of a better word. I have been thinking about this, and if its an issue with most, i can change it.

One thing I thought of was this...once the conversion happens that evening MI6 gets a counterspy randomly assigned to the team (from the non specials). They have the power of scanning for the traitor during the night cycle....ie "is newcastle the traitor" ...answer "Newcastle is the traitor" or "newcastle is not the the traitor".

If i were to institute this, I am thinking that the evening they are created, they get a scan or wait?

This is just an idea I thought could add a bit, because you would think that evil would convert early on. I am thinking also the converted/traitor gets the EMP power, so the sooner they convert, the sooner they can use it. However the rub for evil is that once they create the traitor, they set loose the counter spy.

A few additional things to consider: if he is created is his ability blocked by the EMP (i amleaning to yes). The other thing is it announced that a traitor has been created? Does the countery spy learn the agents previous role also?

Counterspy - 1 per evening can ask if X is the traitor.

Order of operations would
-conver traitor
-create counterspy with order

My goal is really to make this a WW game without the various twists and turns and i dont want to get it too exotic. Main reason is the last string of games I feel have been very exotic in their rule set. So I really want it to be straightforward without a lot of complexities so the focus can really be on the back and forth and intellectual & analytical prowess of the players.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:05 am

Well I have been reading the other games, and these sound interesting. How about I throw my hat in?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:56 pm

BUMP!

this one is up next...need some signatures for you wonderful folks. Small rules tweaks upcoming, depending on the amount of signatures (basically adding in a Bond Girl to team MI6).

I realize this page is VERY bland, but fear not, i have it planned out.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:18 am

Then I am IN!

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:30 am

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:43 am

Does death reveal alignment?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:04 pm

Do the baddies have a secret forum?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:15 pm

Remus West wrote:Does death reveal alignment?

yes - either good or bad

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:16 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:Do the baddies have a secret forum?

yes, i will set up a secret forum.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:57 pm

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:11 am

Just kind of curious if folks are tenative to sign for any specific reason. If its something with the rules, I dont mind changing things around. Any and all advice is appreciated.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:14 am

Rumor has it that my normal method of browsing the forums is no longer safe.

As such, I am loathe to commit to something that I might not be able to devote to which I am not able to devote as much attention as I would like.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:24 am

Ah bummer, well sorry to hear that.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:46 am

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:49 am

Compensating much there, Lassr?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:03 am

Remus West wrote:Compensating much there, Lassr?

I have to because they never know when I'm in...

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:34 am

Haven't had a chance to read the rules yet.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:06 am

stessier wrote:Haven't had a chance to read the rules yet.

You read the rules? Huh. Who'd a thunk.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:14 am

stessier wrote:Haven't had a chance to read the rules yet.

same.
I've just been super busy at home, and now I have a bunch of work at work to catch up with.
In the back of my head - I plan to join, but if I happened to join today and it started today, I'd be unable to play, so I selfishly hold off on joining until I have the time to actually start playing. If that made any sense.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:49 pm

Okay - read the rules. In!

A few things -

You mention that Hugo orders the hits, but there is no succession after him. I think it is obvious, but you should probably spell it out.

You mention Secret Agent number will not be learned by Seer. What is the function of the number?

Will there be voting time limits? (I vote yes!)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:49 pm

thanks unagi & stessier for the response.

Basically its WW with following flavor twists
1. Starts during the day phase
2. Bad guys have an EMP power (1 time block of all night time powers except kill); & a berserker
3. If enough signatures (looking unlikely right now) will add in a Bond girl (mortician powers) & the boss ability to recruit someone to team Villains (threshold for this is 16 signatures, we have 8 right now); in essence team villain would gain the mortician power as well.

Would like to start it later this week.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:50 pm

Remus West wrote:
stessier wrote:Haven't had a chance to read the rules yet.
You read the rules? Huh. Who'd a thunk.

I know how to do simple math too! (<- and spelling/grammar!)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:53 pm

stessier wrote:Okay - read the rules. In!

A few things -
Will there be voting time limits? (I vote yes!)

within reason, sure, i mean if it drags out, will clamp down, but i like to let things go at their own pace and let players move the action. If i think the game would benefit by a time limit, yes I will do so.

You mention that Hugo orders the hits, but there is no succession after him. I think it is obvious, but you should probably spell it out.

basically he's the final word; if he goes down then its between the remaining villains. I've never seen a case where they work disharmonously; if there HAS to be a sucession I'd say: 1. Hugo Drax 2. Oddjob 3. Eric

You mention Secret Agent number will not be learned by Seer. What is the function of the number?

Dude you mean you've never wanted to be a MI6 secret agent? No real function besides flavor, think of it as cilantro next to your quesadilla; the ketchup on your french fries.....just something to make the players seem more secret agenty...does no harm, does no real good either.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:57 pm

Im in a couple others right now but I think I can handle this one as well. Im in

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:58 pm

rshetts2 wrote:Im in a couple others right now but I think I can handle this one as well. Im in

welcome aboard.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:39 pm

Writing the last paper of my degree due in one week. - NOT in.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:47 pm

Austin wrote:Writing the last paper of my degree due in one week. - NOT in.

Well i dont envision this starting until thurs/Friday at the earliest if that changes your thinking at all. Though i dont want to distract your studies.

slim099 · Post by **slim099** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:53 pm

HiHi, I am new to the site. Scoop introduced me to the site, and I'd like to PLAY!

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:00 pm

slim099 wrote:HiHi, I am new to the site. Scoop introduced me to the site, and I'd like to PLAY!

Hey all you can kill this new guy instead of me this game..Kay?

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:00 pm

Oh yeah.. Hi Slim...

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:05 pm

stessier wrote:
Remus West wrote:
stessier wrote:Haven't had a chance to read the rules yet.
You read the rules? Huh. Who'd a thunk.
I know how to do simple math too! (<- and spelling/grammar!)

Man, you had too bring that up to? Vicious.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:06 pm

slim099 wrote:HiHi, I am new to the site. Scoop introduced me to the site, and I'd like to PLAY!

Oh. God. Someone Scoop brought in? Dear Lord help us.

Welcome to the site. Have fun.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:18 pm

slim099 wrote:HiHi, I am new to the site. Scoop introduced me to the site, and I'd like to PLAY!

welcome aboard - so youre a friend of scoops eh? well this should be interesting.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:32 pm

So if Unagi signs up, the game will spontaneously combust to protect us all, right?