This is not the thread Chris is looking for

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:06 pm

18! holy guacamole!

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:32 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:I believe kenetickid (currently addicted to WoW)
Hasn't kenetickid bailed on two separate games? Do we really want to go waste a turn debating what to do with his husk?
I remember him bailing, and I haven't played in a long time.

Of course, if neither of them can bother to login long enough to actually sign up... *sigh*

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:55 am

Do we have a targeted start date for this one?

Not that I'm anxious or anything. Just, you know, wondering. Yeah, that's the ticket!

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:19 am

yeah, do we have a start date? I like we have massive participation, but interest starts to wane with delays. Btw, this will be a very long game and I would encourage instituting some form of time limit

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:23 am

I'm not opposed to a time limit, but way back when the games used to finish in about a month pretty much regardless of size. I miss the days of the 70 page game. So many things to sort and catalog.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:24 am

Sure. With a gazillion people, I won't have to pay too much attention to the game. Go ahead and sign me up.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:30 am

LordMortis wrote:Sure. With a gazillion people, I won't have to pay too much attention to the game. Go ahead and sign me up.

Says our future Seer.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:47 am

stessier wrote:
LordMortis wrote:Sure. With a gazillion people, I won't have to pay too much attention to the game. Go ahead and sign me up.
Says our future Seer.

I've never been a seer. *shrug*

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:01 am

Mentalist – His ability to speak to others minds unnerves some so he has kept it hidden. Facing this current evil he cannot afford to do this any longer. Each night he may contact a different player initiating PM contact with them for the duration of the night. All PMs MUST include the moderator so that I can archive them in the spoiler forum.

Does the Menatlist HAVE to contact someone, or is it really "may"?

Mayor – Use to the ebb and flow of politics he can sway the crowd without them even being aware of it. Each day he may cast an extra vote with the moderator through PM. Due to the fickle nature of the public he may not change this vote once it has been cast each day.

Which vote can the Mayor not change - public, private, or both?

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:05 am

I just wanted to tell you all good luck. Everybody else is counting on you.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:06 am

stessier wrote:Mentalist – His ability to speak to others minds unnerves some so he has kept it hidden. Facing this current evil he cannot afford to do this any longer. Each night he may contact a different player initiating PM contact with them for the duration of the night. All PMs MUST include the moderator so that I can archive them in the spoiler forum.

Does the Menatlist HAVE to contact someone, or is it really "may"?

Mayor – Use to the ebb and flow of politics he can sway the crowd without them even being aware of it. Each day he may cast an extra vote with the moderator through PM. Due to the fickle nature of the public he may not change this vote once it has been cast each day.

Which vote can the Mayor not change - public, private, or both?

Mentalist is a "may"
Mayor may not change the private vote. Public vote may change however he wants.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:22 am

Remus West wrote:
stessier wrote:Mentalist – His ability to speak to others minds unnerves some so he has kept it hidden. Facing this current evil he cannot afford to do this any longer. Each night he may contact a different player initiating PM contact with them for the duration of the night. All PMs MUST include the moderator so that I can archive them in the spoiler forum.

Does the Menatlist HAVE to contact someone, or is it really "may"?

Mayor – Use to the ebb and flow of politics he can sway the crowd without them even being aware of it. Each day he may cast an extra vote with the moderator through PM. Due to the fickle nature of the public he may not change this vote once it has been cast each day.

Which vote can the Mayor not change - public, private, or both?
Mentalist is a "may"
Mayor may not change the private vote. Public vote may change however he wants.

So N -1, is really a possibility of N -2?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:17 pm

RMC wrote:
Remus West wrote:
stessier wrote:Mentalist – His ability to speak to others minds unnerves some so he has kept it hidden. Facing this current evil he cannot afford to do this any longer. Each night he may contact a different player initiating PM contact with them for the duration of the night. All PMs MUST include the moderator so that I can archive them in the spoiler forum.

Does the Menatlist HAVE to contact someone, or is it really "may"?

Mayor – Use to the ebb and flow of politics he can sway the crowd without them even being aware of it. Each day he may cast an extra vote with the moderator through PM. Due to the fickle nature of the public he may not change this vote once it has been cast each day.

Which vote can the Mayor not change - public, private, or both?
Mentalist is a "may"
Mayor may not change the private vote. Public vote may change however he wants.
So N -1, is really a possibility of N -2?

Reverse that. N-2 is possibly N-1 if the Mayor has his secret vote cast there.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:19 pm

Sorry, said that wrong. But yeah, you hit N -2, and no one knows it might be N -1. Sneaky Sneaky..Lucky it's a good guy with 2 votes.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:20 pm

RMC wrote:Lucky it's a good guy with 2 votes.

Yeah.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:31 pm

BTW, if we go into a day phase with an even number of players then majority shall be half the players rather than true majority.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:54 pm

Remus West wrote:BTW, if we go into a day phase with an even number of players then majority shall be half the players rather than true majority.

"At least half think you should go!"
"But at least half think I should stay!"

Shouldn't that be half+1, also a true majority?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:04 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Remus West wrote:BTW, if we go into a day phase with an even number of players then majority shall be half the players rather than true majority.
"At least half think you should go!"
"But at least half think I should stay!"

Shouldn't that be half+1, also a true majority?

It should be. But that's why he's spelling it out now. I like his change of rule, but that's me.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:08 pm

Murderous mob wins ties - worth trying if it makes the days shorter.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:10 pm

stessier wrote:Murderous mob wins ties - worth trying if it makes the days shorter.

I'm persuaded!

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:31 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
stessier wrote:Murderous mob wins ties - worth trying if it makes the days shorter.
I'm persuaded!

Well you'd better be!

*rabble rabble*

P.S. I don't want to make an entire thread about it, but I started my new job today! It is a truly fantastic day so far.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:37 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Remus West wrote:BTW, if we go into a day phase with an even number of players then majority shall be half the players rather than true majority.
"At least half think you should go!"
"But at least half think I should stay!"

Shouldn't that be half+1, also a true majority?

You are making a false assumption there in saying half think you should stay. Just because they do not vote to kill you is not the same as voting to keep you alive. We do not offer that voting option.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:52 pm

Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Remus West wrote:BTW, if we go into a day phase with an even number of players then majority shall be half the players rather than true majority.
"At least half think you should go!"
"But at least half think I should stay!"

Shouldn't that be half+1, also a true majority?
You are making a false assumption there in saying half think you should stay. Just because they do not vote to kill you is not the same as voting to keep you alive. We do not offer that voting option.

You are making a false assumption about the supposed false assumption. The assumption could be half think he should live.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:53 pm

Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:"At least half think you should go!"
"But at least half think I should stay!"
You are making a false assumption there in saying half think you should stay. Just because they do not vote to kill you is not the same as voting to keep you alive.

It's also an assumption that the half voting against someone think he should go. For any given voter-against, the fact that he does not act to keep you alive does not mean that he really wants you dead.

Given that both are assumptions, the question of assumptions makes no difference.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:02 pm

Heh. don't lynch grund

and lets see remus keep up with the ayes and nays

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:03 pm

I support Chaos

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:07 pm

I feel the weight of stessier

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:08 pm

Simple enough. Anyone placing a name under the accuse tags is voting to lynch them unless it is a withdrawl in the form of "Withdraw [player name]". No other withdrawls will be acknowledged save superceded votes. So, current voting stands:
Against:
Grundbegriff - Chaosraven
Chaosraven - stessier

Take that ya bastages.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:08 pm

free unagi

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:09 pm

Remus West wrote:Simple enough. Anyone placing a name under the accuse tags is voting to lynch them unless it is a withdrawl in the form of "Withdraw [player name]". No other withdrawls will be acknowledged save superceded votes. So, current voting stands:
Against:
Grundbegriff - Chaosraven
Chaosraven - stessier
Unagi - Newcastle

Take that ya bastages.

updated.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:10 pm

Withdraw Bakhtosh

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:12 pm

I refuse to get in a chain behind Unagi

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:16 pm

stessier, are you working up a threat matrix

? We could use one.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:17 pm

Lr0dUnagrundistessieremus

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:20 pm

Just a reminder - for anyone who hasn't already, go to http://ooww.freeforums.org" target="_blank and register so that you can have somewhere to talk if you end up a Wolf or Mason (assuming they exist).

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:24 pm

stessier wrote:Just a reminder - for anyone who hasn't already, go to http://ooww.freeforums.org" target="_blank and register so that you can have somewhere to talk if you end up a Wolf or Mason (assuming they exist).

Now you've gone and made this a chore...

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:27 pm

LordMortis wrote:
stessier wrote:Just a reminder - for anyone who hasn't already, go to http://ooww.freeforums.org" target="_blank and register so that you can have somewhere to talk if you end up a Wolf or Mason (assuming they exist).
Now you've gone and made this a chore...

You get to kill time by reading all the other games once you are in though! We're up to 5 I believe. And you only have to do it once!!

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:31 pm

yeah i want to echo the registering that Stessier is suggesting. It serves as a great communication area for wovles to chat, and for those who are dead can hop in there and chit chat to their hearts delight.

serves as a great information hub also.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:46 pm

i was hoping for the weredog role to be used. Btw, is the Seer a possible role or confirmed? If no Alpha wolf who makes kills determination?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:53 pm

What do we do if we have forgotten login and/or password?