Remus West wrote:For me tru1cy actions during the b2212 vote make me feel he is not the wolf.
Points to Remus. I was waiting to see if anyone was going to point that out. I don't think you are a wolf now either.
But you are still evil.
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Remus West wrote:For me tru1cy actions during the b2212 vote make me feel he is not the wolf.
Ok, going on the assumption that I'm human, your human, and scoop is definitely human, that leaves CR, LM and Semaj.Remus West wrote:bb2112, as to your point #3, yes we do lose. We lose one of our last shots at catching the final wolf. The question is if he is likely enough to be a wolf that lynching him is worth the risk of that chance. Same as the risk in lynching anyone.
I also don't like the fact that Q and Newcastle were starting to get on the CR and LM train along with me and then we hang one, the other gets eaten, and then I immediately go up for nomination by CR and almost hung. I just can't let go of the fact that I smell smoke. I admit that I keep gonig back and forth on which one it is, but today I'm more convinced it is CR than LM.bb2112 wrote:Ok, going on the assumption that I'm human, your human, and scoop is definitely human, that leaves CR, LM and Semaj.Remus West wrote:bb2112, as to your point #3, yes we do lose. We lose one of our last shots at catching the final wolf. The question is if he is likely enough to be a wolf that lynching him is worth the risk of that chance. Same as the risk in lynching anyone.
Personally I don't think Semaj is a wolf. He has been pretty out of it lately. Would I bet the farm, no, but that leaves CR and LM. LM has been acting flakey, and I'm not sure if his flakiness is an act to throw off suspicion, or if he really isn't paying attention. CR has been very lucid. Also reading through his posts, I just have a feeling it may be him. Reread his posts and let me know if you agree.
I don't get that. If we have you in our sights, and we don't target you, then that is good if you are human. Especially if we actually nail the wolf. The only way it is bad is if you are the wolf and we avoid targeting you. Your logic doesn't make sense to me. "I'm a villager so kill me now, don't wait until you go home."LordMortis wrote:If you are all convinced that I am probably bad you should save CR and lynch me today. I'd rather go down now than have you make me feel like I was last your choice when it's there are only 3 of us and you end up choosing wrong. If you have me in your sights then holding me until later is a mistake.
This was the one that made me think RMC was hinting at Seer. It was also the post that made me think I might be scanned in the night (or eaten) the first night.RMC wrote: Save Remus
I just don't see enough to run him up, just because..
From when I was grilling folks about why they saved me day 1. Obviously hadn't read through and was trying to finish me off. Sort of points to my innocence.tru1cy wrote: lynch remus
he's makes a viable target. Day 1 is a crap shoot at best and we would need a major gaff from a wolf to get lucky. If Remus isn't the Seer then we are ahead of the game and I am assuming he isn't since he hasn't spoken up yet
If you have me in your sights and let me live and it comes down to the last day then I become the no brainer. I am human. I would rather die now and let you know that I was human then be setup for the last kill because I made the most sense and ally'all figure I'm playing like a wolf and that I somehow threw the game.bb2112 wrote:I don't get that. If we have you in our sights, and we don't target you, then that is good if you are human.
Absoluetly. That's why my vote is going where ever we put it on whomever it goes on.Especially if we actually nail the wolf
If you wait until we get home and that's the plan then we lose. So by all means shoot me now! Shoot me now! Given that you and Semaj are implying that you are set on this then if one of you is wolf then he lets the other live and we have basically conceded the last day to lynching me and dooming the village. If both of you are human and this is still your plan the wolf doesn't kill either one of you and you set me up for the last lynch things even get worse.The only way it is bad is if you are the wolf and we avoid targeting you. Your logic doesn't make sense to me. "I'm a villager so kill me now, don't wait until you go home."
And that's my point.Ok, if we target CR today, that would bring us to 5. If we are wrong, then LM eats... I mean the wolf eats Scoop tonight.
Now we are down to 4. If we hang LM tomorrow, and we are wrong, then we are down to 3. Then the wolf eats another villager, and we are down to 2 and lose.
Remus West wrote:From when I was grilling folks about why they saved me day 1. Obviously hadn't read through and was trying to finish me off. Sort of points to my innocence.tru1cy wrote: lynch remus
he's makes a viable target. Day 1 is a crap shoot at best and we would need a major gaff from a wolf to get lucky. If Remus isn't the Seer then we are ahead of the game and I am assuming he isn't since he hasn't spoken up yet
Still looking for that post of CR's that made me think him posing as Seer.
Are we potentially missing 2 posts from CR? Could someone be covering their lupine tracks?bb2112 wrote:wait, didn't CR post something about being confused right after Tru1cy came out and said he was the seer and then RMC said he was the seer? I could have swore there was a post that didn't make a lot of sense and I thought it was a little fishy from CR, but now I can''t find it. Like it was deleted... or something... Does this ring a bell with anyone else? Or in my exhausted state am I losing what is left of my little mind.
can you explain to me what that even means?LordMortis wrote:
Again that's my point. Shoot me now. Shoot me now. I will not be the reason you blame our loss on or the wolf credits their win on. If CR is not the wolf both you and Semaj have set up a wolf win today and have ability to make it happen.
No. Edits show as editted and are against the rules. You can only delete a post if it is the very last one in the thread - and it is also against the rules since it is the equivilent of an edit. It means I read something differently the first time through and it doesn't look like it now. It also means you are crazy but we already knew that.bb2112 wrote:Remus West wrote:From when I was grilling folks about why they saved me day 1. Obviously hadn't read through and was trying to finish me off. Sort of points to my innocence.tru1cy wrote: lynch remus
he's makes a viable target. Day 1 is a crap shoot at best and we would need a major gaff from a wolf to get lucky. If Remus isn't the Seer then we are ahead of the game and I am assuming he isn't since he hasn't spoken up yet
Still looking for that post of CR's that made me think him posing as Seer.Are we potentially missing 2 posts from CR? Could someone be covering their lupine tracks?bb2112 wrote:wait, didn't CR post something about being confused right after Tru1cy came out and said he was the seer and then RMC said he was the seer? I could have swore there was a post that didn't make a lot of sense and I thought it was a little fishy from CR, but now I can''t find it. Like it was deleted... or something... Does this ring a bell with anyone else? Or in my exhausted state am I losing what is left of my little mind.
He is saying that (on the assumption he is human) if we lynch someone else today and miss on the plan of then lynching him tomorrow he would rather be lynched today so that he is not the final miss due to tunnel vision.Semaj wrote:can you explain to me what that even means?LordMortis wrote:
Again that's my point. Shoot me now. Shoot me now. I will not be the reason you blame our loss on or the wolf credits their win on. If CR is not the wolf both you and Semaj have set up a wolf win today and have ability to make it happen.
You make it sound like I said the wolves win today,, or I set up up the wolves winning today... or i just read this wrong... enlighten me.
Ok, that makes me feel better. Thanks for explaining. I mean about the me being crazy part. The rest is good information too.Remus West wrote:No. Edits show as editted and are against the rules. You can only delete a post if it is the very last one in the thread - and it is also against the rules since it is the equivilent of an edit. It means I read something differently the first time through and it doesn't look like it now. It also means you are crazy but we already knew that.bb2112 wrote:Remus West wrote:From when I was grilling folks about why they saved me day 1. Obviously hadn't read through and was trying to finish me off. Sort of points to my innocence.tru1cy wrote: lynch remus
he's makes a viable target. Day 1 is a crap shoot at best and we would need a major gaff from a wolf to get lucky. If Remus isn't the Seer then we are ahead of the game and I am assuming he isn't since he hasn't spoken up yet
Still looking for that post of CR's that made me think him posing as Seer.Are we potentially missing 2 posts from CR? Could someone be covering their lupine tracks?bb2112 wrote:wait, didn't CR post something about being confused right after Tru1cy came out and said he was the seer and then RMC said he was the seer? I could have swore there was a post that didn't make a lot of sense and I thought it was a little fishy from CR, but now I can''t find it. Like it was deleted... or something... Does this ring a bell with anyone else? Or in my exhausted state am I losing what is left of my little mind.
If you think I am wolf and want to wait until tomorrow to lynch me, and think we will hit a human today then you are attempting sign our death warrant. Kill me now. Let me come up as human and then you guys can try to figure out what's going on. If you decide someone else is human and vote for them anyway and they are human and both you and bb2112 (and I) live through the night, which I'm going to guess we will as you believe I am a wolf, then we lose tomorrow if we miss today. So just to be sure, you should lynch me today, quite frankly so you or bb2112 can't team up and get me killed tomorrow by default costing us the game.Semaj wrote:can you explain to me what that even means?LordMortis wrote:
Again that's my point. Shoot me now. Shoot me now. I will not be the reason you blame our loss on or the wolf credits their win on. If CR is not the wolf both you and Semaj have set up a wolf win today and have ability to make it happen.
You make it sound like I said the wolves win today,, or I set up up the wolves winning today... or i just read this wrong... enlighten me.
Whoa! I completely missed this post. Really? Semaj? What am I missing? I will have to go back and reread. I was thinking he was too MIA to be taken seriously... Especially when the whole seer thing went down.Remus West wrote: Save
After a full reread I have no friggin clue why I thought CR had hinted at being Seer.
What I did come away with though is a feeling that the last wolf is Semaj.
It is mostly that CR and LM are acting exactly as I expect from them. They have not pushed any course of action I haven't agreed with and both have been putting themselves in a position to be lynched. Meanwhile, Semaj has just been sitting off to the side.bb2112 wrote:Whoa! I completely missed this post. Really? Semaj? What am I missing? I will have to go back and reread. I was thinking he was too MIA to be taken seriously... Especially when the whole seer thing went down.Remus West wrote: Save
After a full reread I have no friggin clue why I thought CR had hinted at being Seer.
What I did come away with though is a feeling that the last wolf is Semaj.
even if i have been doing it in multiple games...?Remus West wrote:It is mostly that CR and LM are acting exactly as I expect from them. They have not pushed any course of action I haven't agreed with and both have been putting themselves in a position to be lynched. Meanwhile, Semaj has just been sitting off to the side.bb2112 wrote:Whoa! I completely missed this post. Really? Semaj? What am I missing? I will have to go back and reread. I was thinking he was too MIA to be taken seriously... Especially when the whole seer thing went down.Remus West wrote: Save
After a full reread I have no friggin clue why I thought CR had hinted at being Seer.
What I did come away with though is a feeling that the last wolf is Semaj.
Ok, as far as I can tell, we have 3 suspects. The last time I listened to you (Remnus) I voted to lynch Q based on your saying Q wasn't acting right. Being new I gave your word a lot more weight than my gut feeling (which is what we are all really going by unless someone makes a major mistake like Tru1cy this game or Scoop in the last game). Seeing how we have 2 shots and 3 major suspects, I am not going to just concede you are right and jump the fence like I did with Q on day 1. That being said, I still do feel pretty good about you being a human and I believe 100% Scoop is human. I still can't get a real good read on the other 3, but I'm leaning towards CR and LM, but I can't reconcile LM's game play as anything other than disinterested or insane. Knowing LM, either could be possible. CR is shrewd and diabacle. He has not really offered any insight other than one liners nominate, lynch or save. He has hung back a lot and the only time he put himself in the spotlight was on day one he nominated you and defended it by saying it would be funny. I went along because, well it is day one, and I agreed it would have been funny. All that being said, I could probably switch my 2nd day vote from LM to Semaj if CR comes out to be human (against my better judgment), but today I think the right thing to do is lynch CR.Remus West wrote:It is mostly that CR and LM are acting exactly as I expect from them. They have not pushed any course of action I haven't agreed with and both have been putting themselves in a position to be lynched. Meanwhile, Semaj has just been sitting off to the side.bb2112 wrote:Whoa! I completely missed this post. Really? Semaj? What am I missing? I will have to go back and reread. I was thinking he was too MIA to be taken seriously... Especially when the whole seer thing went down.Remus West wrote: Save
After a full reread I have no friggin clue why I thought CR had hinted at being Seer.
What I did come away with though is a feeling that the last wolf is Semaj.
Stunning. Your insight and reasoning is empeccable. A little wordy perhaps, but I am glad you have put so much thought into your reply.Chaosraven wrote:Sure. I am not the wolf. How's that?
I don't think your save counts. We are at the necessary number of lynch votes before the save vote so I believe Stessier said it is automatic. You should have put in your save vote prior to Steve putting in his lynch vote.LordMortis wrote:That's kind of where I'm at, if only because sights are set on me after you. At the same time, I don't trust you're human and you won't have to be around to lynch the wrong guy on the last day if we are lynching the right guy in you today.
So assuming I read correctly, then the question if you die is me, Remus, BB, or Semaj. Likely it's me. The funny thing is that I'm reading correctly it's better to not lynch at all either today or tomorrow.
There are six now, correct? If we don't lynch then after the night's kill there will be 5. We lynch brings us to 4. Wolf kills three. Then final lynch if from 3 instead of 4 and increases our odds by 50%. Correct me if I'm wrong
save
But if you don't lynch me today, I'll still put CR on the block tomorrow (assuming I read correctly that scoop is trusted and therefore presumed dead) as he and bb are still at the top of my list. Also I'll vote to lynch anyone who goes up (except me and apparently scoop).
It only just occurred to me that we are this strange sort of odd versus even loss giving the wolfs an extra advantage. That being the case, if raven is not wolf (and I think and hope he is) then I still thing the better to not lynch tomorrow and increase the village odds for success and force the wolf to leave himself in a smaller pool.bb2112 wrote:I don't think your save counts. We are at the necessary number of lynch votes before the save vote so I believe Stessier said it is automatic. You should have put in your save vote prior to Steve putting in his lynch vote.LordMortis wrote:That's kind of where I'm at, if only because sights are set on me after you. At the same time, I don't trust you're human and you won't have to be around to lynch the wrong guy on the last day if we are lynching the right guy in you today.
So assuming I read correctly, then the question if you die is me, Remus, BB, or Semaj. Likely it's me. The funny thing is that I'm reading correctly it's better to not lynch at all either today or tomorrow.
There are six now, correct? If we don't lynch then after the night's kill there will be 5. We lynch brings us to 4. Wolf kills three. Then final lynch if from 3 instead of 4 and increases our odds by 50%. Correct me if I'm wrong
save
But if you don't lynch me today, I'll still put CR on the block tomorrow (assuming I read correctly that scoop is trusted and therefore presumed dead) as he and bb are still at the top of my list. Also I'll vote to lynch anyone who goes up (except me and apparently scoop).
That being said, if CR is not the wolf (which would surprise and depress me), I don't think I'm going to nominate you today. Your plea to die first has kind of convinced me you really do have the best interest of the village in mind. If you reversed psychologied me, then you deserve the Kaiser Sose award.
But I'm really hoping Stessier is going to announce a village win before too long.
This is likely a good plan. If we missed on Chaosraven then tomorrow we will be choosing between 3 people - none of them trusted since Scoop is the likely night kill. Allowing the wolf another kill simply means the final choice is between two rather than 3.LordMortis wrote:It only just occurred to me that we are this strange sort of odd versus even loss giving the wolfs an extra advantage. That being the case, if raven is not wolf (and I think and hope he is) then I still thing the better to not lynch tomorrow and increase the village odds for success and force the wolf to leave himself in a smaller pool.bb2112 wrote:I don't think your save counts. We are at the necessary number of lynch votes before the save vote so I believe Stessier said it is automatic. You should have put in your save vote prior to Steve putting in his lynch vote.LordMortis wrote:That's kind of where I'm at, if only because sights are set on me after you. At the same time, I don't trust you're human and you won't have to be around to lynch the wrong guy on the last day if we are lynching the right guy in you today.
So assuming I read correctly, then the question if you die is me, Remus, BB, or Semaj. Likely it's me. The funny thing is that I'm reading correctly it's better to not lynch at all either today or tomorrow.
There are six now, correct? If we don't lynch then after the night's kill there will be 5. We lynch brings us to 4. Wolf kills three. Then final lynch if from 3 instead of 4 and increases our odds by 50%. Correct me if I'm wrong
save
But if you don't lynch me today, I'll still put CR on the block tomorrow (assuming I read correctly that scoop is trusted and therefore presumed dead) as he and bb are still at the top of my list. Also I'll vote to lynch anyone who goes up (except me and apparently scoop).
That being said, if CR is not the wolf (which would surprise and depress me), I don't think I'm going to nominate you today. Your plea to die first has kind of convinced me you really do have the best interest of the village in mind. If you reversed psychologied me, then you deserve the Kaiser Sose award.
But I'm really hoping Stessier is going to announce a village win before too long.
Yes, its in the rules that if everyone gets saved it goes to night.Semaj wrote:Its actually an interesting discussion...
What would be better... 3 people or 4 people? I think 3 people might be better because then the village in theory has a 33% (although I argue 50%, since no one will vote for themselves, meaning whomever votes is 50-50 on getting it right) and although it gives the wolf 2 straight kills, which might set up his best possible chance of winning... i think 2 straight night kills might tell who the wolf is. And with 4 people, there might be more room to hide. Not sure though, this might require actual brain power.
Here lets settle whether this is a solid topic of discussion...
Hey Stess: is it possible for the village to Pass... I.E. have everyone go up for vote and vote save?
It is a good plan if we get down to 4. At 6 we know Scoop is going to buy it tonight as he is the only one that is not under suspicion, so doing it today wouldn't buy us anything. Either way we only get 2 shots, and this way we have a chance of saving Scoop.Chaosraven wrote:Oh sure, *NOW* that's a good plan? Jerks.
I believe Remus based on only Not Voting to Kill when he could have. (obviously that has now changed)Semaj wrote:
chaos if you are not the last wolf, feel free ot post any last thoughts.
Where was this insight and analysis before we decided to choke the crap out of you! You so better be a wolf!Chaosraven wrote:I believe Remus based on only Not Voting to Kill when he could have. (obviously that has now changed)Semaj wrote:
chaos if you are not the last wolf, feel free ot post any last thoughts.
I believed bb2112 based on Remus trusting in him.
So it has to be Semaj or LordMortis based on that.
But now I imagine Remus laughing at me... so I don't know.
OR stessier may have been nice enough to let me toy with you guys alllllllllll afternoon.
Hell, maybe even until morning...
*whistles*
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