for his use of random.org to place his vote. Just like a wolf; can't think for himself.
And looking back now, your first vote seemed like a throwaway, given the reason that I used random.org. But if there's a third reason you'd like to trot out for the vote that you didn't post, perhaps one that actually has some decent logic in it, let me know. I think your single-mindedness in this regard for fluff reasons is not helping.
I've seen evil use the random.org excuse before to target someone they want to get rid of...
at the time I voted to see how you would react. The reaction today is a little more eye opening than your reaction yesterday.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
bb2112 wrote:I kind of like the idea of testing Scoop today. Didn't he have the opportunity to put the final vote on Trig but chose not to? The same guy who said it shouldn't be that hard to get to 5 votes?
This is well-reasoned.
withdraw Remus West
Scoop20906
You post last night that I am the last wolf. You vote me right out of the gate today. Neither time do you bother to give any sort of reason. Then this is what sways you from your belief?
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
bb2112 wrote:I kind of like the idea of testing Scoop today. Didn't he have the opportunity to put the final vote on Trig but chose not to? The same guy who said it shouldn't be that hard to get to 5 votes?
This is well-reasoned.
withdraw Remus West
Scoop20906
You post last night that I am the last wolf. You vote me right out of the gate today. Neither time do you bother to give any sort of reason. Then this is what sways you from your belief?
Theo, why did you think Remus was the other wolf? And what changed your mind?
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
bb2112 wrote:ok, I'm not above asking stupid questions.
Theo, why did you think Remus was the other wolf? And what changed your mind?
That is just another wording of the question I asked.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
bb2112 wrote:ok, I'm not above asking stupid questions.
Theo, why did you think Remus was the other wolf? And what changed your mind?
That is just another wording of the question I asked.
Remus, you never asked that question. All you asked was if what bb2112 said was enough to change my vote while commenting on me calling you a wolf.
Anyway, Remus seemingly ignoring that almost all of the scenarios were already laid out, something that happened in a prior game in which I was evil which he moderated and he mentioned a tactic which shouldn't exonerate me, plus his general tone made it seem as if he were going to point at me as the other wolf. It bugged me then, knowing I am a villager, so I voted for him immediately to see if there was any reaction. There wasn't really, and bb2112's comment in regards to Scoop, especially Scoop mentioning being concerned about being able to reach the requisite number of votes and him not killing triggercut, stood out as a very solid reason to test Scoop.
Where is scoop? We ran him up to N-1 and he didn't show... That has to tell us something..
Difficulties mastered are opportunities won. - Winston Churchill
Sheesh, this is one small box. Thankfully, everything's packed in nicely this time. Not too tight nor too loose (someone's sig in 3, 2, ...). - Hepcat
Not willing to place the last vote on anyone without letting them speak so I'm not going to vote Scoop right now.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
Pr0ner, need to change the vote on scoop from himself to bb2112.
Thanks!
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
Well we have time to hear from Scoop, but he seems more likely a wolf the longer he waits to explain why he is not a wolf...
Difficulties mastered are opportunities won. - Winston Churchill
Sheesh, this is one small box. Thankfully, everything's packed in nicely this time. Not too tight nor too loose (someone's sig in 3, 2, ...). - Hepcat
Scoop20906 wrote:K, I just realized its almost 8:30 pm. My wife just finished her online class and two brand new copies of Gears of War 3 are waiting for us so I won't be monitoring things.
My votes on theohall. Remus, what the heck are you doing?
He is probably playing Gears of War 3 with his wife.
Hmmm... I say we give him to tomorrow, then tip him over the edge. The only thing that he could possibly say that would stay execution is if he is the seer, right?
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
bb2112 wrote:Hmmm... I say we give him to tomorrow, then tip him over the edge. The only thing that he could possibly say that would stay execution is if he is the seer, right?
He doesn't post much from work, so tomorrow should be plenty of time.
Scoop20906 wrote:I'm in Vegas baby!! Now who should we kill?!?
Grumble, I'm jealous. I had my Vegas trip cancelled by work and haven't had a chance to go since. If I didn't already have a vote on you I would be tempted just because of that.
And read the thread, right now your head is on the line.
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
Scoop20906 wrote:I'm in Vegas baby!! Now who should we kill?!?
As long as it isn't you? Clearly, he doesn't really care who we kill. What kind of villager wants us to kill people without caring? Heck, he cared so little he went to Vegas.
Well, not much to say. I still don't see how Grund picked up on trig. Also, I see he named me as the other wolf. How do you fight that?
I'm not the Seer so unless Grund was the Seer which I doubt because he would have said so our Seer will get another chance to scan tonight if you off me.
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
Sorry scoop, not seer check, might be wolf check...
what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...
Scoop
Difficulties mastered are opportunities won. - Winston Churchill
Sheesh, this is one small box. Thankfully, everything's packed in nicely this time. Not too tight nor too loose (someone's sig in 3, 2, ...). - Hepcat
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
Remus West wrote:Blah blah blah. Someone cast the final vote on theohall. We do not have time to run anyone else up and he has already claimed villager so no Seer damage there. Even if we managed to run a wolf up they would simply claim Seer and we would back off. Although as I type that it occurs to me that a wolf crying Seer this late can not hope to out the true one...then when they survive the night (as there would be absolutely zero reason for the wolves not to kill him) we know.
triggercut
I'll check back in a few.
This was what made me think Remus West is a wolf. Encourage everyone to kill someone he knows is not a wolf (me), while voting for his partner just in case the votes did shift. I think that voting shift was unexpected and he was hoping someone would cast the killing vote on me, before voting for his partner.
Now one of the folks Remus always likes to see dead, bb2112, is killed in the night.
I'd lay odds that theohall is the wolf. I am going to wait to cast any vote until everyone checks in though because if neither bb2112 nor Grundbegriff were the Seer then the Seer needs to check in now and share what they have found. If they have managed to collect two live scans then we have the game on lock down. A Seer checking in after today can not be trusted as we will be down to our last miss.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
