[4OTP] Second Try At A New League
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- Kelric
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[4OTP] Second Try At A New League
Okay, so it looks like we have seven people who have kept up on the conversations: myself, Isgrimnur, Mortis, Exodor, Baroquen, Sudy Nym, and Crux. That gives us seven - one more lets us do two leagues of four teams, three more players lets us do two leagues of five. Assuming we can get at least one more, this is what seems to be the consensus...
Fictional league
Modern Era
Two weeks per sim, we will sim whenever everyone gets their file in or a minimum of once per week
Neither scouts nor coaches will be on
Three levels of minors (AAA, AA, A)
Rule V draft is on
Player personality is on, but morale is off
These are the things I think we need to discuss still:
Do we allow draft picks to be traded? People seem okay with allowing recently drafted players to be traded in their first offseason, but I think allowing picks to be dealt can unbalance stuff pretty quickly with a savvy owner or two.
Are we going to turn waivers on? It can be a hassle at times, but I do like the chance it gives people to pick up players.
Rating scales. I'm fine with giving us 1-100 for the initial draft to let people get a better read. After that people seem to prefer 1-10 generally, but we need to hammer our details.
Designated hitter? Seems like giving one league the DH and one without is what people seem to want to do. True?
Free agent draft pick compensation? I haven't seen this be 'broken' myself, so I'm not sure where people are coming from on that one. But if it works properly, people seem to be okay with turning it on.
Fictional league
Modern Era
Two weeks per sim, we will sim whenever everyone gets their file in or a minimum of once per week
Neither scouts nor coaches will be on
Three levels of minors (AAA, AA, A)
Rule V draft is on
Player personality is on, but morale is off
These are the things I think we need to discuss still:
Do we allow draft picks to be traded? People seem okay with allowing recently drafted players to be traded in their first offseason, but I think allowing picks to be dealt can unbalance stuff pretty quickly with a savvy owner or two.
Are we going to turn waivers on? It can be a hassle at times, but I do like the chance it gives people to pick up players.
Rating scales. I'm fine with giving us 1-100 for the initial draft to let people get a better read. After that people seem to prefer 1-10 generally, but we need to hammer our details.
Designated hitter? Seems like giving one league the DH and one without is what people seem to want to do. True?
Free agent draft pick compensation? I haven't seen this be 'broken' myself, so I'm not sure where people are coming from on that one. But if it works properly, people seem to be okay with turning it on.
- Exodor
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
No. Seems too unbalancing.Kelric wrote: Do we allow draft picks to be traded?
Yes - otherwise it's too easy to stockpile young talent in the high minors and shuffle them around.Are we going to turn waivers on?
This seems fair - 1-100 initially, 1-10 or 1-8 once we're going.Rating scales. I'm fine with giving us 1-100 for the initial draft to let people get a better read. After that people seem to prefer 1-10 generally, but we need to hammer our details.
I don't care what we do with the DH.Designated hitter? Seems like giving one league the DH and one without is what people seem to want to do. True?
I'd prefer to leave this on.Free agent draft pick compensation?
- Baroquen
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
Trading: Recently drafted players - sure. Draft picks - no.
Waivers: No
Ratings: I always like 1-100. If not that, then 1-10.
DH: I like the DH. If we go one league with/one league without, do we get to choose?
FA Draft Pick Compensation: Yes
Waivers: No
Ratings: I always like 1-100. If not that, then 1-10.
DH: I like the DH. If we go one league with/one league without, do we get to choose?
FA Draft Pick Compensation: Yes
- Isgrimnur
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
Again, I'll play with whatever.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
Just saw this thread, but I would still be interested.
Draft Pick trading: No
Wavers: Yes
Ratings: Im fine with the 1-100 then move to 1-10 scale.
DH: I like DH, but I would be fine without it as well.
Free Agent Comp: Leave it on
Draft Pick trading: No
Wavers: Yes
Ratings: Im fine with the 1-100 then move to 1-10 scale.
DH: I like DH, but I would be fine without it as well.
Free Agent Comp: Leave it on
- LordMortis
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
I like DHing but then I come from an AL town.
I like 1-100 scale but then it probably won't matter much. I'm not so swift with baseball so I'm always going to prefer more handicapping.
I like 1-100 scale but then it probably won't matter much. I'm not so swift with baseball so I'm always going to prefer more handicapping.
- Ninyu
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
I am still interested as well. I am good with whatever is decided. If you need a tie breaking vote, I like the DH rule.
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
If there are no scouts I am out. I think it takes alot of the fun out of multiplayer franchises if everyone sees all of the potentials the same and they are 100% accurate.
- Sudy
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
I can't speak to the use of scouting, as I've never bothered to figure it out since being frustrated by it in versions past. But this, in my mind, is one of the virtues of smaller, disproportionate ratings scales. E.g. if ability is 1-10 and potential is 1-5.denoginizer_1 wrote:If there are no scouts I am out. I think it takes alot of the fun out of multiplayer franchises if everyone sees all of the potentials the same and they are 100% accurate.
I actually don't have an issue with everyone seeing the same ratings; those ratings just shouldn't be clear. The issue with scouting is presumably an owner who bungles things winds up with a horrible scouting director and is at an extreme disadvantage.
No.Kelric wrote: Do we allow draft picks to be traded?
Yes.Are we going to turn waivers on?
1-10 is my preference, or 2-8. What I'd most like is for potential to be on a smaller scale than current ability.Rating scales.
Yep. Should let everyone strongly for or against have their preference, with the rest not caring.Designated hitter? Seems like giving one league the DH and one without is what people seem to want to do. True?
Sure.Free agent draft pick compensation? I haven't seen this be 'broken' myself, so I'm not sure where people are coming from on that one. But if it works properly, people seem to be okay with turning it on.
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- Sudy
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
Time for the OOTP13 discussion. I presume we'd be going with OOTP12 until some (many/all) patches down the line? I decided not to preorder 13 because I felt like I'd just paid for version 12. I'm personally inclined to wait for the first sale to pick it up. And if it's anything like this last cycle, that won't be too long after launch, as OOTPD seems to have caught on to the digital distribution sale model. (Unless that was just to make up for last year's game coming out so late.)
I saw a commercial on late night TV. It said, "Forget everything you know about slipcovers." So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were. -- Mitch Hedberg
- Baroquen
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
This league idea has bigger issues to tackle than which version, at this point.
- Sudy
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Re: [4OTP] Second Try At A New League
Anyone else having problems with the most recent league file?
I saw a commercial on late night TV. It said, "Forget everything you know about slipcovers." So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were. -- Mitch Hedberg