Octopus Overlords

by **Qantaga** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:16 am

Colonist to Residence.

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:49 am

1 colonist on my guild hall.

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:56 am

Thus comes to a glorious end the anarchosyndicalist commune headed by Chaos the Ravenous.

I'm geeking out at ScotusBlog for the next couple of hours, so I'll post an inter-round update at lunchtime.

by **LordMortis** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:00 am

When it is LordMortis the Greedy's turn to begin the round, He will prospect for +3 Doubloons and seriously regret having purchased a warehouse.

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:05 am

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:36 pm

End of Round 13, the third Governorship of Chaosraven.

Banked doubloons are in stacks of 10 or spread, so that's 33.

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:40 pm

Not that I'm complaining, but I should only have 1 coffee on my board, not 1 coffee and 1 indigo (since I don't have a warehouse - our goods are only shipped fresh!)

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:45 pm

History:

Round 01
El Guapo: Settler (quarry); Newcastle (indigo); Chaosraven (sugar); LordMortis (corn); Qantaga (indigo)
Newcastle: Prospector (1)
Chaosraven: Builder(sm sugar); LordMortis (sm indigo); Qantaga (sm sugar); El Guapo (sm indigo); Newcastle (tobacco storage)
LordMortis: Mayor (2); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1); Newcastle (1); Chaosraven (1)
Qantaga: Prospector (1)

Round 2
Newcastle: Settler (tobacco); Chaosraven (corn); LordMortis (indigo); Qantaga (sugar); El Guapo (tobacco)
Chaosraven: Mayor (3); LordMortis (1); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1); Newcastle (1)
LordMortis: Craftsman (1 corn, 2 indigo); Qantaga (1 sugar); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (1 tobacco); Chaosraven (1 corn, 1 sugar)
Qantaga: Trader (1 sugar); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (1 tobacco); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (1 indigo)
El Guapo: Builder (tobacco storage); Newcastle (sm warehouse); Chaosraven (sm warehouse); LordMortis (hospice); Qantaga (office)

Round 3
Chaosraven: Builder (sm indigo plant); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (sm market); El Guapo (sm market); Newcastle (-)
LordMortis: Captain (1 corn, 1 indigo); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (-); Chaosraven (1 corn, 1 sugar)
Qantaga: Settler (coffee); El Guapo (tobacco); Newcastle (corn); Chaosraven (sugar); LordMortis (indigo)
El Guapo: Mayor (2); Newcastle (2); Chaosraven (2); LordMortis (2); Qantaga (2)
Newcastle: Prospector(2)

Round 4
LordMortis: Prospector(3)
Qantaga: Mayor (3); El Guapo (2); Newcastle (1), Chaosraven (1), LordMortis (1)
El Guapo: Craftsman (indigox2, tobacco); Newcastle(corn, tobacco); Chaosraven(corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis(corn, indigo); Qantaga(corn, sugar)
Newcastle: Settler (quarry); Chaosraven (coffee); LordMortis (indigo); Qantaga (coffee); El Guapo (indigo)
Chaosraven: Captain (corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis (corn, indigo); Qantaga (corn, sugar); El Guapo (indigox2); Newcastle (corn)

Round 5
Qantaga: Prospector
El Guapo: Craftsman (indigox2, tobacco); Newcastle(corn, tobacco); Chaosraven(corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis(corn, indigo); Qantaga( corn, sugar)
Newcastle: Trader (corn); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-)
Chaosraven: Captain (corn, sugar); LordMortis (corn, indigo); Qantaga (corn, sugar); El Guapo (indigox2); Newcastle (corn)
LordMortis: Builder (Lg indigo plant); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (office); Chaosraven (-)

Round 6
El Guapo: Trader (tobacco); Newcastle (-); Chaosraven (indigo); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-)
Newcastle: Mayor (2); Chaosraven 1; LordMortis 1; Qantaga 1; El Guapo 1
Chaosraven: Prospector
LordMortis: Settler (quarry); Qantaga (sugar); El Guapo (corn); Newcastle (coffee); Chaosraven (corn)
Qantaga: Prospector

Round 7
Newcastle: Trader (tobacco); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-)
Chaosraven: Craftsman (corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis (corn, indigox2); Qantaga (corn, sugar); El Guapo (indigo, tobaccox2); Newcastle (corn, tobacco)
LordMortis: Builder (sm sugar mill); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (sm sugar mill); Newcastle (lg market); Chaosraven (-)
Qantaga: Settler (quarry); El Guapo (sugar); Newcastle (sugar); Chaosraven (corn); LordMortis (corn)
El Guapo: Captain (tobacco2x); Newcastle (corn, tobacco2x); Chaosraven (corn, sugar); LordMortis (corn); Qantaga (sugar)

. . .

Round 11
El Guapo: Mayor (3); Newcastle (2); Chaosraven (1); LordMortis (1); Qantaga (1)
Newcastle: Settler (tobacco); Chaosraven (coffee); LordMortis (sugar); Qantaga (coffee); El Guapo (indigo)
Chaosraven: Trader (indigo); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (-)
LordMortis: Prospector
Qantaga: Builder (harbor); El Guapo (harbor); Newcastle (lg sugar mill); Chaosraven (hospice); LordMortis (-)

Round 12
Newcastle: Mayor (3); Chaosraven (2); LordMortis (2); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1)
Chaosraven: Captain (corn2); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (-)
LordMortis: Craftsman (corn3, indigo4, sugar); Qantaga (corn, sugar, coffee2); El Guapo (corn, indigo, sugar, tobacco, coffee); Newcastle (corn, indigo, sugar, tobacco2); Chaosraven (corn2, indigo, sugar, coffee2)
Qantaga: Trader (coffee); El Guapo (tobacco); Newcastle (tobacco); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (-)
El Guapo: Builder (Guild Hall); Newcastle (large warehouse); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (large warehouse); Qantaga (Residence)

Round 13
Chaosraven: Trader (coffee); LordMortis (sugar); Qantaga (coffee); El Guapo (indigo)
LordMortis: Captain (corn3, indigo4); Qantaga (corn1, sugar1); El Guapo (corn1, sugar1); Newcastle (sugar1, tobacco1); Chaosraven (sugar1)
Qantaga: Settler (sugar); El Guapo (indigo); Newcastle (sugar); Chaosraven (indigo1); LordMortis (quarry1)
El Guapo: Prospector
Newcastle: Mayor (3); Chaosraven (1); LordMortis (1); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1)

Start of Round 14:

Victory Point Chips: more than 50
Doubloons: 33
Colonists in supply: 18
Colonists on inbound ship: 5
Coffee crates in supply: 7
Tobacco crates in supply: 3
Sugar crates in supply: 11
Indigo crates in supply: 10
Corn crates in supply: 7
Trade House: (1) --- (2) --- (3) --- (4) ---
Cargo Ship #6: _____, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #7: _____, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #8: tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, _____, _____
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The number on the left is the price in doubloons. For worker capacity and VP value, see the BUILDINGS section above.
As these are acquired, I'll put them under erasure and mark them with the initial of the owner EG, N, C, LM, or Q.

Bank Board
Column 1
(1) [small indigo plant LM] [small indigo plant EG] [small indigo plant C] [small indigo plant N]
(2) [small sugar mill C] [small sugar mill Q] [small sugar mill LM] [small sugar mill EG]
(1) [small market Q] [small market EG]
(2) [hacienda] [hacienda]
(2) [construction hut LM] [construction hut]
(3) [small warehouse N] [small warehouse C]
Column 2
(3) [large indigo plant LM] [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant]
(4) [large sugar mill N [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill]
(4) [hospice LM] [hospice C]
(5) [office Q] [office N]
(5) [large market N] [large market Q]
(6) [large warehouse N] [large warehouse LM]
Column 3
(5) [tobacco storage N] [tobacco storage EG] [tobacco storage]
(6) [coffee roaster C] [coffee roaster Q] [coffee roaster EG]
(7) [university C] [university]
(8) [factory EG] [factory]
(8) [harbor Q] [harbor EG]
(9) [wharf LM] [wharf]
Column 4
(10) [guild hall EG]
(10) [residence Q]
(10) [fortress]
(10) [customs house]
(10) [city hall N]
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Plantations and Quarries Available
Plantations:

indigo
indigo
sugar
tobacco
tobacco

Quarries:

Quarry EG
Quarry N
Quarry LM
Quarry Q
Quarry LM
Quarry
Quarry
Quarry

Builder (+1)
Captain (+0)
Craftsman (+1)
Mayor (+0)
Prospector (+2)
Prospector (+0)
Settler (+0)
Trader (+0)

by **LordMortis** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:47 pm

And as I stated earlier, I prospect for 3.

To qantagas turn.

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:51 pm

The photos show an indigo crate for Chaosraven, and indigo crate for El Guapo, and 8 indigo crates in supply.
In truth, neither Chaosraven nor El Guapo has an indigo crate, and there are 10 in supply.

I didn't think the minor discrepancy justified retaking the photos.

Reality will be reflected on the ascii boards.

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:53 pm

Unacceptable! We demand perfection!

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:59 pm

Here are the ASCII boards from the end of Round 13.
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1: El Guapo
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 06
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 15
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [tobacco_____________1] [sugar_______________1] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________0] [tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [coffee______________1]
[indigo______________0] [tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [tobacco storage_____2] [small sugar mill______1] [coffee roaster________1]
[_Guild(_____________-] [____________________] [____________________] [factory______________1]
[_____)Hall__________1] [____________________] [harbor______________1] [small market_________1]
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2: Newcastle
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 00
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 16
Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[tobacco_____________1] [indigo______________1] [coffee______________0] [corn_______________1]
[tobacco_____________1] [____________________] [coffee______________0] [sugar______________1]
[tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [quarry______________1] [sugar______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[tobacco storage______2] [small indigo plant____1] [large sugar mill_______2] [large market_________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [_City(_______________-] [office_______________1]
[____________________] [large warehouse_____0] [_____)Hall___________1] [small warehouse______1]
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3: Chaosraven
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 06
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 15
Crates on Hand: Corn: 02, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [sugar_______________1] [coffee______________1] [corn_______________1]
[indigo______________1] [sugar_______________0] [coffee______________1] [corn_______________1]
[____________________] [_____________________] [tobacco_____________0] [corn_______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant____1] [small sugar mill______1] [coffee roaster________2] [hospice_____________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [university____________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
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4: LordMortis
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 03
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 18
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [indigo______________0] [corn________________1] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________1] [____________________] [sugar_______________1] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________1] [____________________] [quarry_______________1] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [small sugar mill______1] [____________________] [construction hut______1]
[large indigo plant_____3] [____________________] [____________________] [wharf_______________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [large warehouse______2] [hospice_____________1]
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5: Qantaga
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 08
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 13
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[sugar_______________1] [sugar______________0] [coffee______________1] [corn________________1]
[sugar_______________0] [____________________] [coffee______________1] [corn________________0]
[sugar_______________0] [____________________] [coffee______________0] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small sugar mill______1] [coffee roaster_______2] [__Resi-(_____________-] [large market__________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [______)dence________1] [small market_________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [harbor______________1] [office_______________1]
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Please check your details. I believe these boards match the photographs, and I believe these boards and photographs match reality.

If I'm wrong about that, this is your chance to let me know!

Here begins the third Governorship of LordMortis.

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:59 pm

LordMortis wrote:And as I stated earlier, I prospect for 3.

To qantagas turn.

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:01 pm

Looks good to me!

by **Qantaga** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:59 pm

Builder. (+1 dubloon)

Buy Fortress for 8 dubloons (10 - priv - quarry).

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:06 pm

Jerk.

I'll buy a large indigo plant for 2 (3 - 1 quarry)

by **Newcastle** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:07 pm

I'll take that mud, half baked, kitchenette for 0

by **Qantaga** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:32 pm

El Guapo wrote:Jerk.

Wait... are you talking to me, or to Lassr?

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:35 pm

Wait, when did Qantaga take over for Mr Bubbles in this game?

by **Qantaga** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:57 pm

by **Chaosraven** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:35 pm

No build. Day late dollar short etc

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:39 pm

Final option to build is LordMortis's.

by **LordMortis** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:40 pm

I'll take the tobacco plant for 3 (5-2 quarries) leaving me with 3.

by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:46 pm

LordMortis wrote:I'll take the tobacco plant for 3 (5-2 quarries) leaving me with 3.

With that, El Guapo selects a role.

by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:57 pm

I'll take Captain.

I'll ship my 1 coffee via cargo ship #7, netting me 3 VP (1 + harbor + privilege).

That puts it to Newcastle to choose. Since you'll only be able to ship 1 good, I'd humbly suggest shipping your indigo, to prevent Chaosraven from shipping his 2 corn.

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:09 am

E Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<
N Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00<<
C Crates on Hand: Corn: 02, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<<<
L Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Q Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 01, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<<<

Cargo Ship #6: _____, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #7: coffee, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #8: tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, _____, _____

Action on Newcastle to ship.

by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:39 am

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:52 am

Edit: incorrect. See two posts down.

E Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<
N Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00<<
C Crates on Hand: Corn: 02, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<<<
L Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Q Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 01, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<<<

With El Guapo selecting coffee for ship #7 and Newcastle selecting corn for ship #6, the remainder of the turn is automatic.

Chaosraven ships corn2 for 2VP.
LordMortis has nothing to ship.
Qantaga ships corn1 for 2VP.
El Guapo has nothing left to ship.
Newcastle has nothing left to ship and stores indigo1.
Chaosraven ships coffee1 for 1VP.
Qantaga ships coffee1 for 2VP and stores sugar1.

Result:
Cargo Ship #6: corn, corn, corn, corn, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #7: coffee, coffee, coffee, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #8: tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, _____, _____

Haul:
El Guapo: 3VP
Newcastle: 1VP
Chaosraven: 3VP
LordMortis: 0VP
Qantaga: 4VP

If everyone agrees that this is the outcome regardless of the order in which Chaosraven ships his coffee and corn, then we can proceed to Newcastle's role selection.

by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:01 am

Craftsman, extra tobacco

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:06 am

Time for everyone either to specify a limited production or say "Max!"

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:16 am

Correction: Qantaga had nothing to ship this round. His corn, sugar, and coffee on his ascii board were left over in error from the previous round. (He traded the coffee and shipped the other two.)

Here's a corrected summary:

E Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<
N Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00<<
C Crates on Hand: Corn: 02, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:01<<<
L Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Q Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00

With El Guapo selecting coffee for ship #7 and Newcastle selecting corn for ship #6, the remainder of the turn is automatic.

Chaosraven ships corn2 for 2VP.
LordMortis has nothing to ship.
Qantaga has nothing to ship
El Guapo has nothing left to ship.
Newcastle has nothing left to ship and stores indigo1.
Chaosraven ships coffee1 for 1VP.

Result:
Cargo Ship #6: corn, corn, corn, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #7: coffee, coffee, _____, _____, _____, _____, _____
Cargo Ship #8: tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, tobacco, _____, _____

Haul:
El Guapo: 3VP
Newcastle: 1VP
Chaosraven: 3VP
LordMortis: 0VP
Qantaga: 0VP

by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:18 am

to the max!

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:31 am

Max Potential Production:
E corn1, indigo1, sugar1, tobacco1, coffee1 "?"
N corn1, indigo1, sugar2, tobacco2, coffee0 "Max!"
C corn3, indigo1, sugar1, tobacco0, coffee2 "Max!"
L corn3, indigo3, sugar1, tobacco0, coffee0 "?"
Q corn1, indigo0, sugar1, tobacco0, coffee2 "?"

Coffee crates in supply: 7
Tobacco crates in supply: 3
Sugar crates in supply: 11
Indigo crates in supply: 10
Corn crates in supply: 7 (El Guapo will not get to produce corn. Qantaga will not get to produce corn.)

Newcastle: Assuming everyone maxes, you cannot have tobacco as your bonus. By the time production ends, there's no tobacco left. There's also no corn left in this scenario. What would you like instead? Your options are indigo and sugar.

by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:44 am

Max production

by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:48 am

Is the Tradehouse empty?

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:49 am

by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:52 am

Then you can guess what I will do after Newcastles done... Good to the Last Doubloon!

by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:57 am

Grundbegriff wrote:Newcastle: Assuming everyone maxes, you cannot have tobacco as your bonus. By the time production ends, there's no tobacco left. There's also no corn left in this scenario. What would you like instead? Your options are indigo and sugar.

can i choose to not craftsmen? and choose another role? My whole thought process was predicated on being able to have the extra tobacco...sorry for newbishness here.....if i cant back out then...well...sugar i guess.

by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:59 am

Newcastle wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Newcastle: Assuming everyone maxes, you cannot have tobacco as your bonus. By the time production ends, there's no tobacco left. There's also no corn left in this scenario. What would you like instead? Your options are indigo and sugar.

can i choose to not craftsmen? and choose another role? My whole thought process was predicated on being able to have the extra tobacco...sorry for newbishness here.....if i cant back out then...well...sugar i guess.

You'll get your bonus tobacco iff El Guapo chooses not to produce one.

As for whether to get a mulligan on your role choice, I'll leave that to Chaosraven since he's the only player actually affected by it in realtime.

by **Newcastle** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:03 am

Nevermind..no mulligan needed....

i'll take sugar

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