(Almost) Simple WW Game #2 - Game Over

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:42 pm

(Almost) Simple Game

13 players: 1 She-Wolf, 1 He-Wolf, 1 Wolf-Pup 1 Seer, 7 Villagers

Wolf Pack: She-wolf, He-wolf, Wolf-pup -

Will show Evil on death.
Know each other.
She-wolf submits Night Kill.
- If l She-wolf dies, He-wolf submits Night Kill.
- Wolf-pup submits the kill if orphaned.

Seer -

Submits name each Night and receives response of "Good" or "Evil"

Villagers - Residents of a doomed little Village.

Will show "Good" on death

Victory Conditions
Evil - Wins when # of Evil => # of Good
Good - Wins when She-Wolf and He-Wolf are dead

Rules

Any player can PM anyone during the Day.
Only Wolves may PM at Night.
Day 1 = 96 hours
All subsequent days = 72 hours
Night = 12 hours minimum and 24 hours maximum (order must be received by deadline or it is forfeit).

Roster

El Guapo
Bubbles
Chaosraven
bb2112
Remus West
Lassr
Austin
Theo
Trig
RMC
Unagi
Newcastle
Qantaga ( )

Wolf PM wrote:Ahhhh, fresh meat. Enjoy your visit to the Doomed Village Buffet. Please remember that your server gratuity was not included in the price of your meal.

You can PM anyone at any time.

Please do not PM anyone (except each other) until the game is officially started.

Seer PM wrote:The Village would have been doomed without your Second Sight ability. Of course, they are probably still doomed, but maybe you'll at least help them put up a bit of a fight. I hear the wolves like it when the prey is feisty - gets the juices flowing.

Each Night you can learn the alignment of one person. You can also PM anyone during the Day.

Please don't PM anyone until the game officially starts.

Good luck!

Villager PM wrote:You moved here to get away from it all. You have a nice little garden and love just watching the clouds go by. Unfortunately you settled on an ancient burial ground known for attracting werewolves - isn't that just the luck. Now try to rid your village of the demon spawn before you end up a Night time snack.

You can PM anyone you want during the Day. Please do not PM anyone until the game is announced to have officially started.

Good luck.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:56 pm

Pick me!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:12 pm

Sure, a small simple game sounds about right.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:15 pm

stessier wrote:(Almost) Simple Game

10 players: 1 She-Wolf, 1 He-Wolf, 1 Seer, 7 Villagers

She-Wolf & He-Wolf -
Will show Evil on death.

Know each other.

She-wolf submits Night Kill. If last wolf, He-wolf submits Night Kill.
Seer -
Submits name each Night and receives response of "Good" or "Evil"
Villagers - Residents of a doomed little Village.
Will show "Good" on death
Victory Conditions
Evil - Wins when # of Evil => # of Good
Good - Wins when She-Wolf and He-Wolf are dead

Rules

Any player can PM anyone during the Day.

Only Wolves may PM at Night.

Day 1 = 96 hours

All subsequent days = 72 hours

Night = 12 hours minimum and 24 hours maximum (order must be received by deadline or it is forfeit).
Roster
1.

Notes: If more than 10 players sign up, I will increase the number of wolves at 12 and 15

PM'ing usually leads to very dead threads from what i saw. I know some of the games did that ages ago. Was very boring.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:19 pm

yeeeep

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:48 pm

Count me in.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:51 pm

Cannot resist.

Must play.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:51 pm

I'm in.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:18 pm

I've never played a game with PMs before, so we'll see how that goes.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:16 am

El Guapo wrote:I've never played a game with PMs before, so we'll see how that goes.

Me neither. Although, what NC says does make a lot of sense. This will be interesting.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:53 pm

PM games tend to have very little in thread action so are very boring for outsiders to read. They do provide some other resources for both sides to use though.

What the heck. I'll play.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:00 pm

If people prefer a No PM rule, I'm fine with it. But it certainly is more entertaining to play and be able to talk to everyone than no one. At least to me. At least once in a while.

We could also try the Nomination method of voting instead of the consensus voting. Nomination is how Live WW is played (or so I hear).

Nomination Voting - Someone nominates someone for the Lynch. Everyone votes whether or not to Lynch. If Lynch, player is dead. If no Lynch, player lives and can not be lynched anymore that day. Rinse and Repeat until someone is Lynched, or everyone is Not Lynched (in which case Day turns to Night).

Could be interesting with PMs going on behind the scenes.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:34 pm

stessier wrote:

10. Qantaga ( )

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:43 pm

stessier wrote:If people prefer a No PM rule, I'm fine with it. But it certainly is more entertaining to play and be able to talk to everyone than no one. At least to me. At least once in a while.

We could also try the Nomination method of voting instead of the consensus voting. Nomination is how Live WW is played (or so I hear).

Nomination Voting - Someone nominates someone for the Lynch. Everyone votes whether or not to Lynch. If Lynch, player is dead. If no Lynch, player lives and can not be lynched anymore that day. Rinse and Repeat until someone is Lynched, or everyone is Not Lynched (in which case Day turns to Night).

Could be interesting with PMs going on behind the scenes.

I personally am not a big fan of the nomination method. People tie up the voting.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:24 pm

El Guapo wrote:I've never played a game with PMs before, so we'll see how that goes.

I have recurring nightmares about them...

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:13 pm

Lassr wrote:
El Guapo wrote:I've never played a game with PMs before, so we'll see how that goes.
I have recurring nightmares about them...

Are you and Austin both signed up?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:30 pm

Remus West wrote:
Lassr wrote:
El Guapo wrote:I've never played a game with PMs before, so we'll see how that goes.
I have recurring nightmares about them...
Are you and Austin both signed up?

not yet...maybe he will not see this thread until it is too late.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:21 am

Have not done a PM game before. Worth a shot.

IN - if it is not too late.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:53 am

bb2112 wrote:I personally am not a big fan of the nomination method. People tie up the voting.

I've always wanted to try this method. What do ya mean regarding 'people tie up the voting'.

I would think we could handle this almost like a poker-forum game, where if someone is 'nominated', then we start on the list after the Person Nominated or the Nominated Individual, and then "go down the list"

Something like:

Jack nominates Bubba...
Jack's a Vote Against Bubba... on the Sign Up list, I am after Jack - so I am next in line to vote, and lets say your name is after me....

"Yes, I say we lynch Bubba - YES!!!
-- bb2112, you're up"

and then everyone basically waits for your vote, and then you call out the guy that's listed after you.

Does that draw on?

I guess I'm saying that there would be no 'chatter' - this would be a ' Yes / No' - coming from everyone down the list.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:11 pm

Unagi wrote:
bb2112 wrote:I personally am not a big fan of the nomination method. People tie up the voting.
I've always wanted to try this method. What do ya mean regarding 'people tie up the voting'.

I would think we could handle this almost like a poker-forum game, where if someone is 'nominated', then we start on the list after the Person Nominated or the Nominated Individual, and then "go down the list"

Something like:

Jack nominates Bubba...
Jack's a Vote Against Bubba... on the Sign Up list, I am after Jack - so I am next in line to vote, and lets say your name is after me....

"Yes, I say we lynch Bubba - YES!!!
-- bb2112, you're up"

and then everyone basically waits for your vote, and then you call out the guy that's listed after you.

Does that draw on?

I guess I'm saying that there would be no 'chatter' - this would be a ' Yes / No' - coming from everyone down the list.

As soon as someone get's nominated, the discussion revolves around that person and totally stops the forward momentum of the game. It gets really bad when an evil keeps throwing up people that nobody is going to vote for and then everyone has to wait until a majority checks in and votes no. Then people get frustrated and vote yes to a lynch just to make something happen. I do not like nomination voting at all. If people want to do it, then I can graciously bow out. I am feeling somewhat burned out after the TESB game anyway, so there would be no hard feelings.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:14 pm

Not too crazy about it myself.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:54 pm

Nominations suck!

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:30 pm

It's how we play it face to face, but then there's no secret communication beyond gestures either.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:49 pm

Chaosraven wrote:It's how we play it face to face, but then there's no secret communication beyond gestures either.

In face to face games you also have everyone right there to make instant decisions.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:03 pm

Lassr wrote:Nominations suck!

Yeah, looks like a terrible idea. I actually cannot recal how we played live. All I remember is we called it Mafia, and there was a sherrif. Maybe he got to decide who to kill and the mafia guys hunted him... Dunno anymore.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:11 pm

The unwashed masses have spoken - boring voting rules it is!

Now all we need is a few more people. I'm fine, too, if there is a themed game that would rather start up instead.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:01 am

Sure, I'm in!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:31 am

I do not see my name on the roster.

How many times do I have to apologize for the "incident?"

Sorry!

Now can I play?

Lassr

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:34 am

Austin PM'ed me and said he was in. Aggghhhhh!

Seriously though, he did.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:36 am

Lassr wrote:Austin PM'ed me and said he was in. Aggghhhhh!

Seriously though, he did.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:57 am

Can I hear the Tale of Austin and the PM?

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:11 pm

I'm Game. Can I play Mara Jade again? It's cool to switch to the winning side 1/2 way through a game.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:33 pm

El Guapo wrote:Can I hear the Tale of Austin and the PM?

Many many moons ago our first games played were PM games much like this one. Halfway through the game I developed some trust in Austin so I pm'ed him and created a behind the scenes relationship and trying to get read on him. I ended up PM'ing a wolf. Austin was just giddy reporting this to his partner, Grundbegriff, He, and with help from Grund, manipulated me into helping to kill off the village.

Austin or Grund may remember more details as it is one of their more memorable moments not so much for me.
that is when I made this picture.

(Austin since you cannot see it, it is the picture of a wolf attacking a man in the snow. His gun is still in his holster because it was such a surprise attack. The wolf is labeled Austin, the man Lassr.)

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:53 pm

Here is the game. Remus was the Mod.

Here's my post after the game ends:
there are numerous posts below by Austin and Grund explaining what went on.

viewtopic.php?p=993206#p993206

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:34 pm

RMC wrote:I'm Game. Can I play Mara Jade again? It's cool to switch to the winning side 1/2 way through a game.

i can't decide if you or remus need to die first.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:49 pm

Checking on one player (not Austin). If there are an odd number, we'll start with a Day Kill. If there are an even number, we'll start at Night. Plan to send out as soon as I hear (tomorrow at the latest).

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:58 pm

pmINg is so so so lame, and i'll prove it!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:02 pm

I'll join !!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:06 pm

(but only because Newcastle PMed me)

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:44 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
RMC wrote:I'm Game. Can I play Mara Jade again? It's cool to switch to the winning side 1/2 way through a game.
i can't decide if you or remus need to die first.

Oh come on you know it is Remus.. You get to see him..Me, I am just some fantasy person you might never meet.. even though I am just in Ohio..