Othello, The Moor of Venice (GAME OVER!)

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:03 pm

Wednesday: Votes

triggercut acc Chaosraven(1)
Lassr acc Chaosraven(2)
triggercut wd Chaosraven(1)
triggercut acc RMC(1)
stessier acc RMC(2)
Lassr wd Chaosraven(0)
triggercut wd RMC(1)
Lassr acc RMC(2)
Holman acc RMC(3)
theohall acc RMC(4)
triggercut acc RMC(5), killing him.

Against Chaosraven(0): triggercut, Lassr
Against RMC(5): triggercut, stessier, Lassr, Holman, theohall, triggercut

Votes requires for a majority: 5

Voting is closed.

No vote registered:
Chaosraven, Newcastle, RMC

Men of Infinite Jest

Lagom Lite
Qantaga
Remus West
bb2112

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:24 pm

"If thou dost slander her and torture me, never pray more! Abandon all remorse! On horror's head horrors accumulate, do deeds to make heaven weep, all earth amazed; for nothing canst thou to damnation add greater than that!"

With the final twitch of his dangling body, RMC lets loose a pouch whereof the drawstring had until then remained in his grasp. Falling, it spills forth contents that set every heart and mind in Cyprus aghast: Lagom Lite's signet ring and Qantaga's spectacles.

RMC was a false disloyal knave!

Men of Infinite Jest

Lagom Lite
Remus West
Qantaga
bb2112
RMC

Boilerplate:
It is night.
Cassio: Whom will you protect?
Team Evil: Whom will you slay?
Roderigo: Around whose house will you skulk?
Emilia: Whose belongings will you search for the handkerchief?
Othello: Whose honesty will you assess?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:10 am

[Note: all flavor text, though adapted from the play, is randomized in usage and contains neither hints nor correlations to the characters and connivance of the actual game now underway. Enjoy, but draw no inferences.]

"The Moor, howbeit that I endure him not, is of a constant, loving, noble nature, and I dare think he'll prove to Desdemona a most dear husband.

Now, I do love her too; not out of absolute lust, though peradventure I stand accountant for as great a sin, but partly led to diet my revenge. For that I do suspect the lusty Moor hath leap'd into my seat; the thought whereof doth, like a poisonous mineral, gnaw my inwards, and nothing can or shall content my soul till I am even'd with him, wife for wife, or failing so, yet that I put the Moor at least into a jealousy so strong that judgment cannot cure.

Though in the trade of war I have slain men, yet do I hold it very stuff o' the conscience to do no contrived murder. I lack iniquity sometimes to do me service: nine or ten times I had thought to have yerk'd him here under the ribs.

It is Thurday morning. One of you, walking through a piazza by the way, discovers the body of poor stessier, slain by a knife to the ribs.

What will you do to redress this wrong?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:14 am

Thursday: Votes

Votes requires for a majority: 4

No vote registered:
Chaosraven, Holman, Lassr, Newcastle, theohall, triggercut

Men of Infinite Jest

Lagom Lite
Qantaga
Remus West
bb2112
RMC
stessier

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:18 am

If newcastle art truly the Lady Desdemona, I must declare him to be...

...most fair.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:28 am

hot diggity dog! thats awesome, awesome, awesome to hear!!!! we can win this thing today then. lets all put on our thinking caps and figure out who is our little 'zerker!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:21 am

triggercut wrote:

If newcastle art truly the Lady Desdemona, I must declare him to be...

...most fair.

Ha! What a pleasant surprise. I was expecting Newcastle to come back foe.

Maybe Q was Emilia.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:23 am

Since we should be able to win this today, this information should help. I had the handkerchief originally, but misplaced it. Thus, I will never know if it has been stolen.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:45 am

theohall wrote:Since we should be able to win this today, this information should help. I had the handkerchief originally, but misplaced it. Thus, I will never know if it has been stolen.

If you speak the truth that leaves Chaos or Holman (from my point of view).

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:22 am

Lassr wrote:
theohall wrote:Since we should be able to win this today, this information should help. I had the handkerchief originally, but misplaced it. Thus, I will never know if it has been stolen.
If you speak the truth that leaves Chaos or Holman (from my point of view).

I see nothing to suggest that badguys cannot hold the handkerchief, so I'm not sure why you'd eliminate theohall.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:40 am

triggercut wrote:
Lassr wrote:
theohall wrote:Since we should be able to win this today, this information should help. I had the handkerchief originally, but misplaced it. Thus, I will never know if it has been stolen.
If you speak the truth that leaves Chaos or Holman (from my point of view).
I see nothing to suggest that badguys cannot hold the handkerchief, so I'm not sure why you'd eliminate theohall.

hmmm, I could have sworn I read that somewhere.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:45 am

If the game has no Bianca:
The handkerchief will be randomly given, at the game's outset, to one player other than Iago, Roderigo, and Emilia. It will stay with this person, and this person will know that he possessed it and misplaced it.

Ah here it is.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:49 am

So if theohall is telling the truth, then Lassr, Holman, and Chaosraven are our primary suspects. Hmm.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:20 pm

triggercut wrote:So if theohall is telling the truth, then Lassr, Holman, and Chaosraven are our primary suspects. Hmm.

It has to be Chasoraven. I don't get the feeling it is Holman, it is not me. If it is Theohall he took a chance in announcing he had the handkerchief as someone else could have been holding it.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:25 pm

Uhm, if i read he rules correctly the hankie doesnt travel. So if theo is telling the truth he's had it all allong.

If the game has no Bianca:

The handkerchief will be randomly given, at the game's outset, to one player other than Iago, Roderigo, and Emilia. It will stay with this person, and this person will know that he possessed it and misplaced it. If Emilia finds it, she will take it and convert. The one from whom she takes it will not learn that it has been stolen. If the one who possessed the handkerchief is lynched by day, then Emilia may still find the misplaced hanky sometime afterward.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:27 pm

So...

CR, Holman & Lassr sitting in a tree...(if theo is to be believed).

Guess we need to look at interactions between everyone.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:47 pm

I hate to play the newbie card again, but I'll just say that I don't have enough experience to feel confident leading you veterans on. I'm a Venetian gentleman, I've never had the handkerchief, and I've had no secret communications with anyone.

My protestations of innocence are sincere.

I'm inclined to suspect CR, but that's based more on what you guys have said in earlier rounds than on any clever deductions of my own.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:00 pm

after re-reading the thread. I've narrowed it down to two who I think it could be, with one slightly nudging ahead of the other.

I'd be curious to see what others think and wont divulge my thinking until I see others so not to contaminate the process.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:30 pm

RMC wrote:Remus is quiet as well as Chaos...

Maybe yonder west lies Remus who is doth too quiet.

first mention of suspects by RMC.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:34 pm

RMC wrote:
I think that CR is playing his normal game so far. He likes to sit back and read everyone, and provide some nice input. So I don't think he is really being too quiet.

<deleted stuff about dead players>

After a quick reread, I love it when we are only at a few pages, I might poke Q or Theo. But man I am always wrong on Theo.

Why those two? Because I think they are flying under the radar a little. Theo is usually all fire and brimstone, and pointing at a target and keeping to it. But it is day one...

mentions CR and Theohall

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:38 pm

RMC wrote:I still think Chaos is being way to quiet. And the trio(Remus, BB, Chaos) are not attacking each other like usual.

I think this means that one of the three is on team evil. Not sure which one yet. But my bet is Chaos.

BB is being helpful BB, which is usually his good persona in my past experience with him...

No read on Holman, he might just be good at these types of game. <shrug> Didn't he say he had played werewolf in person someplace?

Keeps pushing Chaos, but yet never votes for him any where over the next few pages or the next day.

Looks almost like the old "mention your partner so if he gets lynched you can say I told you so" move.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:40 pm

RMC wrote:
triggercut wrote:I'm off to dinner for a few hours, but let's spike everyone's interest a little bit.

I have reasons to think stessier is a bad guy. If you were to ask me, I'd say I was sure he was an enemy...but self-awareness tells me I'm unreliable.

I have reasons to think that Lassr is a good guy. I'm sure of that, too.

But again...unreliable.

Go!
I am thinking Newcastle is bad. I think he is doing a good job of throwing out a name here and there, and trying to tie them together.

But I am wrong a lot, and since I think Chaos is good, he is most likely the bad guy and newcastle is good. <shrug>

now backing off Chaosraven but says he's probably bad since he thinks he's good now.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:48 pm

He had the most comments about Choasraven, very little about theohall and Holman and couldn't find anything on me.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:34 am

come on guys let's get this over with.

Chaosraven

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:42 am

Thursday: Votes

Lassr acc Chaosraven(1)

Against Chaosraven(1): Lassr

Votes requires for a majority: 4

No vote registered:
Chaosraven, Holman, Newcastle, theohall, triggercut

Men of Infinite Jest

Lagom Lite
Qantaga
Remus West
bb2112
RMC
stessier

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:37 pm

I think Iago rests somewhere in the set of players containing Lassr and CR.

Both theohall and Holman seem to be goodguys.

CR's laying low the entire game is very uncharacteristic of him, but I wonder if he'd be more engaged in the game if he were a villain.

I think he would be.

I think his lack of engagement is due to him being just a plain, ordinary Venetian.

Lassr

, I choose YOU.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:41 pm

Trig - have you looked at RMC's interactions with everyone and the final pools interactions w/ RMC? Might be worth a look.

I kind of want to say more, but I really would like to see a bit more from Theo, Holman, and CR before continuing.

One question bugs me though - if you said you have the hanky, why reveal it? if emilia is around they will scan you and flip to team evil. Have to keep in mind we still have a good shot at missing tonight as well.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:41 pm

Thursday: Votes

Lassr acc Chaosraven(1)
triggercut acc Lassr(1)

Against Chaosraven(1): Lassr
Against Lassr(1): triggercut

Votes requires for a majority: 4

No vote registered:
Chaosraven, Holman, Newcastle, theohall

Men of Infinite Jest

Lagom Lite
Qantaga
Remus West
bb2112
RMC
stessier

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:44 pm

Just for something convenient to see, these are the killing votes

Remus West - Lassr, Chaosraven, theohall, RMC, stessier, Newcastle

bb2112 - stessier, Newcastle, RMC, Lassr, theohall

RMC - stessier, Lassr, Holman, theohall, triggercut

Chaosraven's absence on two votes stands out. It's almost like he achieved the goal of getting Remus West killed first and quit trying.

Lassr has been very engaged. His early vote on RMC does not look like a bad guy vote, but Lassr can be as devious as the rest of us.

I agree it is likely one of those two, but do not know which one.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:48 pm

triggercut wrote:I think Iago rests somewhere in the set of players containing Lassr and CR.

Both theohall and Holman seem to be goodguys.

CR's laying low the entire game is very uncharacteristic of him, but I wonder if he'd be more engaged in the game if he were a villain.

I think he would be.

I think his lack of engagement is due to him being just a plain, ordinary Venetian.

Lassr

, I choose YOU.

When I come back friendly, who will be your next target? (If you were to live through the night).

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:54 pm

It's not me, dude.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:35 pm

meh

lassr

lets flip this rock....or....

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:18 pm

Lassr

will be fine from my viewpoint (as he is STILL pulling scraps to accuse me)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:23 pm

remove lassr

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:24 pm

i really do want to think this through and have a bit more discussion. I'd be fine with 2-3 people to lynch to be honest. But i just want to be sure.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Lassr wrote:
triggercut wrote:I think Iago rests somewhere in the set of players containing Lassr and CR.

Both theohall and Holman seem to be goodguys.

CR's laying low the entire game is very uncharacteristic of him, but I wonder if he'd be more engaged in the game if he were a villain.

I think he would be.

I think his lack of engagement is due to him being just a plain, ordinary Venetian.

Lassr

, I choose YOU.
When I come back friendly, who will be your next target? (If you were to live through the night).

the reason I'm asking is if Your plans are to vote for me today then would you vote Chaosraven tomorrow? Or would you be open to other possibilities?
If you vote for Chaosraven today and he happens to come back friendly then are you open to voting for someone other than me tomorrow?

Serious question.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:50 pm

Watcha thinking Lassr? Since you seem to believe CR more innocent than not and you do believe in your own innocence; something seems to be on your mind.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:10 pm

I'm thinking it's Chaosraven. I know it is not me.

Is it better to lynch me today to get that out of the way so you can lynch Chaosraven tomorrow?

I think we win if we lynch Chaosraven today BUT what if we do not...then we are screwed come tomorrow because everyone will vote for me; meaning Holman or Theohall fooled us all.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:12 pm

so basically I think we are screwed if Chaosraven is not the foe.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:28 pm

This is the issue. If Emilia is NOT dead, she will find the handkerchief tonight which is not good for us Venetian Gentleman. I know, we suspect she is dead, but what if??