Samurai Versus Ninja (ww) Night 2: RMC dead

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:36 pm

Also, for those wondering I will be running this exact same following this one unless steps forward ahead of time with their own game.

You can not not have werewolf!!!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:30 am

Q: Do we learn or not learn what roles the wolves have and the other villagers have? They're all randomly chosen from that list?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:35 am

You won't learn the roles on this game until the end. It's random.

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Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:35 am

Everyone stare at Unagi.

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Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:36 am

Do we get good/evil confirmation when we lynch?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:25 pm

Holman wrote:Do we get good/evil confirmation when we lynch?

Yes. The mod will announce what team the killed was on.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:24 pm

Quick Update to everyone: We are waiting for one person to pick up their PM. Once that is done I can get the game started.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:43 pm

SOOoooO sorry, I am out of practice.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:11 pm

Unagi wrote:SOOoooO sorry, I am out of practice.

Just like a ninja to sneak in last when no one is looking.

Unagi

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:42 pm

Moliere wrote:Just like a ninja to sneak in last when no one is looking. Unagi

But everyone was looking.

Scoop20906 wrote:Everyone stare at Unagi.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:00 am

All PM have been picked. Give me one day to take care of the baddie forum then the game will start on Night 0.

Night Specials, I am accepting orders now so feel free to PM me. Don't risk hitting the deadline please.

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Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:51 pm

Good News Everyone!

The game has officially started. It is Night 0.

Night Specials for both teams. Please get your orders to me by Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 5:00 pm EST. This is a hard deadline.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun May 01, 2016 12:02 pm

5 hours until the deadline. If a night special has an order to get to me, get it into before the deadline please.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun May 01, 2016 1:23 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:5 hours until the deadline. If a night special has an order to get to me, get it into before the deadline please.

a weekend deadline...hope the Ninjas are sleeping.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sun May 01, 2016 3:03 pm

Heh, sleeping with the fishes.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun May 01, 2016 7:31 pm

Day 1

Day arrives. One is dead. His name is Remus West.

Dead:
Remus West

Living:
Moliere
bb2112
newcastle
Holman
RMC
Lassr
El Guapo
Unagi
Vorret

The day will end when majority of 5 voted has been reached or the hard deadline is reached on Monday, May 16 at 5:00 pm EST.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun May 01, 2016 7:42 pm

RIP R.W.

And now for a little vengeance.

bb2112

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun May 01, 2016 8:25 pm

How about RMC

.

He loves to kill Remus as much as Chaosraven.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun May 01, 2016 8:38 pm

Tell me more.

Lacking a complete history of OO WW, I have to ask: Who are Remus' natural enemies?

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sun May 01, 2016 9:54 pm

That would be me, CR, and RMC. In this game RMC would be the most likely culprit or someone framing him or me. I've played with RW enough that even if I was evil (which I'm not) I would much rather get him lynched in the day. Much funnier that way. No fun waking up to him being dead.

Until we have something better I think RMC #1 (killing a Detroit person is funny when you are from the mistake on the lake) and Moliere #2 (2 reasons, Triggercut principle and he is smart enough to cause this confusion but killing one of the Detroit crew to start the day off with shenanigans), but hey, this is day one so who really knows. RMC is still my primary suspect at this time. Besides, he is not going to fool me again like in the superhero game. Yeah, still a bad taste from that one.

RMC

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun May 01, 2016 10:17 pm

unagi

/bows head

"punctuality (*&(*& ))BHDF KBC*&YAS a NUIOGTUHBIF IHGIUTFIGVLTYGn OUYGOUIGY lesson FVOOOJYFGFITYVGUHBIHB you must learn "

/bows head again
/shuffles out

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Sun May 01, 2016 11:25 pm

bb2112 wrote:Moliere #2 (2 reasons, Triggercut principle and he is smart enough to cause this confusion but killing one of the Detroit crew to start the day off with shenanigans)

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon May 02, 2016 8:19 am

I can get on board with RMC killing RW on the first night...

RMC

He's been on a roll lately if he's a vilain we're in trouble

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon May 02, 2016 8:43 am

That is 3 for RMC and we have NC sighting this game. Let's give RMC a chance to talk.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon May 02, 2016 9:40 am

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon May 02, 2016 9:42 am

Wow, My track record is catching up with me, isn't it.

Not a wolf, but in all honesty RW is a good first night kill. He is insightful and a great player.

I am not a wolf, I know my honesty is in question, with my past history of WW, but I am a good guy.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:05 am

RMC

n-1

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:09 am

Okay. I am a special, take your votes off me, please.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:12 am

RMC wrote:Okay. I am a special, take your votes off me, please.

ok

withdraw RMC

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:12 am

Holman wrote:Tell me more.

Lacking a complete history of OO WW, I have to ask: Who are Remus' natural enemies?

And yeah, the 'Detroit Crew' is as BB outlined, and for some reason I like to kill them all off when I am a wolf, because I follow in the footsteps of Ohio State and put a hurtin on Michigan.

But really, remove the votes guys, I am a special.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:14 am

wd RMC

The curse is back nooooo

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:14 am

Moliere wrote:
RMC wrote:Okay. I am a special, take your votes off me, please.
ok

withdraw RMC

Thank you kind sir.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:17 am

Heh, I missed the traditional "day 1 running up of a special!" FWIW I doubt there's much probative value to be drawn from killing Remus night 0 - seems just as likely that it would be used to draw false attention to Remus' rivals.

Sooo...RMC, which special are you?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:25 am

El Guapo wrote:Sooo...RMC, which special are you?

An interesting question. If he tells us then we can see if there is a counter claim. Or he tells us and the ninjas know who to target. Or you're a ninja fishing for info.

El Guapo

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:30 am

El Guapo wrote:Heh, I missed the traditional "day 1 running up of a special!" FWIW I doubt there's much probative value to be drawn from killing Remus night 0 - seems just as likely that it would be used to draw false attention to Remus' rivals.

Sooo...RMC, which special are you?

Not gonna do it. Not gonna tell ya.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:41 am

Moliere wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Sooo...RMC, which special are you?
An interesting question. If he tells us then we can see if there is a counter claim. Or he tells us and the ninjas know who to target. Or you're a ninja fishing for info.

El Guapo

Man, like we literally just went through this.

Spoiler:

Am I the only one here who remembers stuff?

Now, if RMC wants to make an argument that this rule set differs from most WW in a way that merits not revealing this info to the village (having already revealed that he is a special), then he can have at it.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 02, 2016 10:59 am

This is going to be frustrating because, while there are 2 or 3 specials in the game, there are umpteen dozen potential special roles. Unless we get very lucky, there won't be anyone to counterclaim when wolfRMC claims to be the Seer's Brother's Pimp.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 02, 2016 11:03 am

El Guapo wrote:
Moliere wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Sooo...RMC, which special are you?
An interesting question. If he tells us then we can see if there is a counter claim. Or he tells us and the ninjas know who to target. Or you're a ninja fishing for info.

El Guapo

Man, like we literally just went through this.

Spoiler:
RMC was a wolf who was run up to n-1 on the first day and made a vague special claim and refused to specify his exact role and turned out to be a wolf.
Am I the only one here who remembers stuff?

Now, if RMC wants to make an argument that this rule set differs from most WW in a way that merits not revealing this info to the village (having already revealed that he is a special), then he can have at it.

I too am wondering why "Don't shoot, I'm special" gets a pass without further details.

Looking again at the game start up, I see that 1 or 2 of the wolves are ALSO classed as specials...

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon May 02, 2016 11:06 am

We have no idea what specials are out there, so my role could be anything.

Why would I blurt it out on day one to god and country. If I live until Day 2, which I doubt I might reveal then, but most likely not. Day 3 or after I would come out.

So if I were to revel today, it would only help the wolves, even if I get axed tonight, or they try too Ax me.

And let's be honest, the ploy of claiming special works towards the end of the game, but in the beginning of the game, this just means you postpone death by a day, maybe.

I am a special, not spoofing anything.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon May 02, 2016 11:08 am

El Guapo wrote:
Moliere wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Sooo...RMC, which special are you?
An interesting question. If he tells us then we can see if there is a counter claim. Or he tells us and the ninjas know who to target. Or you're a ninja fishing for info.

El Guapo

Man, like we literally just went through this.

Spoiler:
RMC was a wolf who was run up to n-1 on the first day and made a vague special claim and refused to specify his exact role and turned out to be a wolf.
Am I the only one here who remembers stuff?

Now, if RMC wants to make an argument that this rule set differs from most WW in a way that merits not revealing this info to the village (having already revealed that he is a special), then he can have at it.

No, you are not the only one that remembers this stuff. I agree, we just went through this and the conventional wisdom is RMC has to give it up. In my previous reading of roles I don't think there is a role that negates a power if it is revealed like in the Superhero game. I will double check, but for now my vote is not moving until RMC gives us something better.