That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
Why do you want to protect him from being contested?triggercut wrote:Why do you want him to de-cloak more fully, Katya?Remus West wrote:Why are we trying to lynch Moliere before anyone even bothers to ask RMC for more information?
Ok, so I think I get where you are coming from, but only have one problem with the overall theme of your analysis. How are you so certain? Your scenario is certainly possible, but you approach it like it is 100% fact. What if Moliere really is Cheryl? The way you are pushing makes me think you are either a bad guy hoping we kill the real Cheryl, or you are a bad guy that is trying to get us to lynch another bad guy to buy cred. Or a third option (and this can be in conjunction with the other two) is you could try to be steering us away from the RMC train, which if I look at the last vote count has been very successful.triggercut wrote:That pretty much covers it. Except for my strong opinion that an actual Cheryl wouldn't reveal that specific identity to the group in that manner because of Katya's power. I think that's probably why whoever the real Cheryl was between Unagi or CR, they went down silently, trying to lay low.bb2112 wrote:Sorry, I have been in Mexico this week with limited OO time. So if I have the gist of what you are saying, Moliere is a bad guy and not Cheryl, and would know to spoof Cheryl because he knows the real Cheryl is dead because the bad guys get notified of an active ISIS agent upon Cheryl's death. Therefore either CR or Unagi had to be Cheryl. Do I have this right?triggercut wrote:Good one!Moliere wrote:You're over thinking it. I hinted at my Special role to avoid the RMC scenario of people wondering whether to believe him and what role he might have. I figure it's better to die tonight or tomorrow then to have the village lynch another innocent today. Cheryl's role says "If you are eliminated". Does this mean either lynched or killed at night?triggercut wrote:I mean, either Cheryl is dead and they somehow figured out (or made a really good, sorta desperate guess) they got her, or she's alive and still cloaked....
...But if Moliere is Cheryl, that's a horrid misplay of that role, I'd think.
With Katya still lurking and likely still holding her power to ignore Lana, there's no way to protect Cheryl so she's going to die anyway; it's sticking a big target on your forehead. Moliere saying specifically that he *is* Cheryl is just a baddie trying to out as many ISIS specials as he can.
He's guilty.
So why, Fake Cheryl, didn't you just say you were a special instead of picking for yourself the one role we can't verify you for in the open?
Your excuse is nonsense word salad that means nothing.
You aren't Cheryl.
You're Team Badguy.
Have fun at the wedding, and if your last name is Stark, make sure to where armor.Newcastle wrote:Scoop20906 wrote:Sigh. Where is Newcastle when we need him?
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(fyi while Holman is gone, I will keep up in the thread and provide updated vote counts. I volunteered my services after seeing his attendance of a red wedding)
I have to agree with RW on this. If RMC is going to claim special, he should define his specialness. If he is good, the wolves will have him in their crosshairs tonight and we will lose information. Especially if he is Malory, we will lose 2 scans.Remus West wrote:Why do you want to protect him from being contested?triggercut wrote:Why do you want him to de-cloak more fully, Katya?Remus West wrote:Why are we trying to lynch Moliere before anyone even bothers to ask RMC for more information?
As Cheryl I am a prime candidate for the wolves to kill tonight so why waste the lynch today? If the wolves try to play the iocane powder game and not kill me tonight, hoping the village lynches me tomorrow, then we can still hope to target a wolf today instead of giving them Cheryl today and RMC tonight (assuming he is a village special).Scoop20906 wrote:I'm willing to lynch moliere and see if RMC survives the night without learning his role.
Really? So you are willing to lynch the player who could be contested (yes, yes, I know, the bad guys would know) and allow another player to go to the night with no information regarding their claim?Scoop20906 wrote:I'm willing to lynch moliere and see if RMC survives the night without learning his role.
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Because you're giving the wolves a bonus ID. Why would you want to do their work for them unless you're one of them?Scoop20906 wrote:Also, if there is a special we can afford to lose it is Cheryl. There is no way to prove you other than killing you. Why wait?
No idea. I am reluctant to test him via a lynch though. I prefer going after those that appear to be manipulating the group (Grun & Trig) or those that appear to be misdirecting the group (ElG).Scoop20906 wrote:Moliere, you think RMC is telling the truth?
You make me want to self-vote just so I can see you come back grovelling to the village and explain why you were wrong, but you did it in the their best interest bla bla bla.triggercut wrote:Why are people who are at least supposed to be on the goodguy team actually suggesting that RMC tell us his specific power?
Moliere isn't Cheryl.
No one should come forward.
If Moliere is the daytime lynch and ISN'T a badguy, then we can take a really hard look at me and at RMC and at Grundbegriff.
But seriously. Moliere is an Assassin. It'd be great if he was Katya. That would be SUPERB.
That would sure make it easier on us. I dare you to!Moliere wrote:You make me want to self-vote just so I can see you come back grovelling to the village and explain why you were wrong, but you did it in the their best interest bla bla bla.triggercut wrote:Why are people who are at least supposed to be on the goodguy team actually suggesting that RMC tell us his specific power?
Moliere isn't Cheryl.
No one should come forward.
If Moliere is the daytime lynch and ISN'T a badguy, then we can take a really hard look at me and at RMC and at Grundbegriff.
But seriously. Moliere is an Assassin. It'd be great if he was Katya. That would be SUPERB.
Probably "Hi, I'm Barry the Cyborg. You may remember me from such previous execution attempts as..."Scoop20906 wrote:Moliere, you've got some time before Holman can post. Anything you'd like to say?
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True. More than likely he's Conway. Had he survived today he might get scanned and come back as ISIS instead of Assassin and could ride out the game that way, with us assuming he was telling the truth about being Cheryl.Scoop20906 wrote:By the way if Moliere survives a lynch he can't claim to be Archer at now. That's why I don't think he is Barry.
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The Isle of Man... Oh my God... Is that like Whore Island for women?Scoop20906 wrote:Moliere, you've got some time before Holman can post. Anything you'd like to say?
what, we have to wait for Holman to know the outcome?Newcastle wrote:Vote Tally:
(6) Moliere: RMC, Triggercut, Vorret, Scoop, Grundbegriff, Lassr,
(1) RMC: bb2112,
(1) Grundbegriff: Moliere,
Not voting: El Guapo, Remus West,
Majority is 6
Moliere is LYNCHED
(am sure you got time prior to Holman being able to post an update)
Yes, not gonna deprive you of those wonderful, awesomesauce, writeups of Holman.Lassr wrote:what, we have to wait for Holman to know the outcome?Newcastle wrote:Vote Tally:
(6) Moliere: RMC, Triggercut, Vorret, Scoop, Grundbegriff, Lassr,
(1) RMC: bb2112,
(1) Grundbegriff: Moliere,
Not voting: El Guapo, Remus West,
Majority is 6
Moliere is LYNCHED
(am sure you got time prior to Holman being able to post an update)
I already told you the outcome. Village loses. Good job.Lassr wrote:what, we have to wait for Holman to know the outcome?
Even if you are Cheryl you are still kind of overstating your value there.Moliere wrote:I already told you the outcome. Village loses. Good job.Lassr wrote:what, we have to wait for Holman to know the outcome?
My value? It was passive, i.e., don't lynch me because the wolves get a free look at the villagers. What was the sheeple's solution? Let's lynch Moliere because triggercut gave some b.s. write-up explanation and no one wanted to bother thinking for themselves. The village gets what they deserve: a wolf victory.Scoop20906 wrote:Even if you are Cheryl you are still kind of overstating your value there.Moliere wrote:I already told you the outcome. Village loses. Good job.Lassr wrote:what, we have to wait for Holman to know the outcome?
I really don't understand why we went forward on this. We could have waited. Now the wolves are going to get a name of one of our specials. Doh!Moliere wrote:My value? It was passive, i.e., don't lynch me because the wolves get a free look at the villagers. What was the sheeple's solution? Let's lynch Moliere because triggercut gave some b.s. write-up explanation and no one wanted to bother thinking for themselves. The village gets what they deserve: a wolf victory.Scoop20906 wrote:Even if you are Cheryl you are still kind of overstating your value there.Moliere wrote:I already told you the outcome. Village loses. Good job.Lassr wrote:what, we have to wait for Holman to know the outcome?
