Re: [WW] Danger Zone REDUX! -- Night 3
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:12 pm
Moliere
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
Yeah, I think we can safely call it. You guys did your best, and you almost pulled it out.Newcastle wrote:So....can we just call it? Or go in super speed mode since we know the end?
that would be my fault also.triggercut wrote:That went...poorly for us.
In the end, having two seers, including one with an on-demand one-time anytime scan was a little too much.
Omg epic bluffScoop20906 wrote:FYI. I scan Lassr last night. I scanned Grund. I lied about scanning Lassr.
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RMC was ISIS and promptly outed and killed.Scoop20906 wrote:Let's scan RMC, shall we? The devil gets to room to hide.
Somehow, everyone assumed I was just a goofing around. WHEW!Scoop20906 wrote:I wonder if a Seer has ever been stupid enough to out this themselves like this?Holman wrote:Scoop20906 wrote:Ok. No smoking gun but it's a start.
El Guapo an assassin. Booyah!Scoop20906 wrote:Seriously. Wow! Unagi is like a bloodhound. I seriously wonder if I will survive the night. I hope they decide to kill RMC so they get the guaranteed scan and its a scan for someone other than me. I so badly want to scan an assassin. I am usually an utter failure as a Seer.
Ok, I have a very large list to pick from but I think I am going to pick someone who didn't cast a vote.
scan El Guapo
My plan is to sit tight with the information and get El Guapo to spill some beans but he stays really quiet. I start to sweat.Scoop20906 wrote:Wow! Maybe I'm not so bad at this after all. I'll probably announce as soon as morning arrives.
Also I'm not sure what your rules are but a note with the scan results in the future that they can't announce what they have learned until the start of the next day.
People might get their results and want to announce it which wouldn't be fair to the baddies.
And sweat.Scoop20906 wrote:OMG! Thank goodness.Holman wrote:You survived the night!Scoop20906 wrote:Crap I forgot that Lana can protect RMC which means they are more likely to look elsewhere as in ME! Damn Damn Damn
Ok, changed my mind about announcing Malory. First I am going to see about pushing the votes against El Guapo in a subtle way. Lets see how this goes.
I miss announcing myself before Moliere kills Stessier and now I am stuck with knowledge of El Guapo and want to get out in case I die. So I announce.Scoop20906 wrote:I think I am doing pretty good but I could be laying it on too thick. I'm pretty sure the assassin's are wondering I really am Malory now. El Guapo's smart enough to put two and two together.
My plan, if I succeed, is to get El Guapo lynched then announce I am Malory during the night and ask Lana to protect me so I can get one more scan. It also allows me to discuss the scan with everyone. I feel pretty confident that katya used up her power last night. I'm not sure so I might change my mind later. It depends on how this vote goes.
And the results lead me to panick some more...Scoop20906 wrote:Ok. Let's scan Grund.
If I don't make it to tomorrow I've really enjoyed the game. Please keep modding when you have the time.
So, I announce Lassr as the other assassin to give myself cover to get another chance to scan.Scoop20906 wrote:Ok, hear this out. I am thinking about lying about my scan.Holman wrote:Thank you! I'm enjoying this.Scoop20906 wrote:Ok. Let's scan Grund.
If I don't make it to tomorrow I've really enjoyed the game. Please keep modding when you have the time.
And Grund is ISIS.
I am going to announce I scanned Lassr and he is an assassin. Two benefits to this:
1. if I am right, then lassr is killed after we kill El Guapo and we win the game.
2. if I am wrong, the assassins think I was lying and that the real Mallory is someone else. They will be confused about how I guess El Guapo was a assassin BUT it might by me another day. At worst, I cause out team a miss but the good news is we can afford a miss with one assassin dead and the other found and even if El Guapo gets two lynches we are ahead.
3. if Grund gets some heat I can change my story and save him. They have no choice they have to believe me.
No need to comment. Just wanted to type this out to think it through.
Of course, this could all be moot and I could already be dead.
Scoop20906 wrote:Ok, please don't respond but I need to share!
I didn't forsee them targeting Grund. I figured if they avoided me they would target El Guapo or Unagi. This changes things quite a bit.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE THIRD ASSASSIN IS. I need to go back and really read El Guapo's posts now.
I'm looking forward to seeing Lassr's reaction as this will help gauge if I got lucky and guess right on him.
Ok, no response. Just needed to get this out.
And thats the end of it. Dumb luck is better than any luck.Scoop20906 wrote:And if I am wrong about Lassr....
I am DEAD tonight unless they think I am covering for the real Mallory. I have to sell I am faking it really hard and hope they decide not to kill me and hope they want to see me swinging in the wind when Lassr comes up ISIS.
I might have painted myself in an ugly hole here but this is finger painting and hella fun!
Yep, I was lying about my scan of you. I expected you to come out and blast me and when you didn't, I thought, maybe I guessed right.Lassr wrote:guess it could have played out a little longer but we were still screwed. Guess that's what Holman meant when he said playing it out could be interesting when we asked if we could just surrender.
Man, very hard to come back from that.Lassr wrote:So we hit BB/Archer. Well, gets a miss out of the way. Then Triggercut gets killed after RMC is revealed and clears Remus. Wow we got behind the eightball real fast.
I think Unagi has promoted himself to Night 0 kill every game now. Well, thats more time for drinky Unagi to lurk the boards.Lassr wrote:Want to know our dumb luck. We agreed to not target LordMortis or Unagi or Stessier the first night. Give them some playing time even though triggercut said Unagi can read me. We figured Unagi would be the next night kill.
I should have had a Cheryl AND a Carol!Moliere wrote:Wait, so I'm not Cheryl?
Moliere wrote:Wait, so I'm not Cheryl?
Holman wrote: Holman
El Guapo wrote:Are you referring to Newcastling?Scoop20906 wrote:You are never going to let me scoop again, are you?Newcastle wrote: scoop
KIDDING
el guapo
Oh man, that was a hell of a move. So we did manage to peg your night scan last night. Well done. If only you had been wrong about Lassr, as that could've blown up badly - he would've charged hard on you. My plan for stoking doubt about you and (ideally) making you the next day's lynch could have worked!Scoop20906 wrote:Yep, I was lying about my scan of you. I expected you to come out and blast me and when you didn't, I thought, maybe I guessed right.Lassr wrote:guess it could have played out a little longer but we were still screwed. Guess that's what Holman meant when he said playing it out could be interesting when we asked if we could just surrender.
I was just trying to get another scan.
Scoop's scan of me, after having announced his intention, was a blunder. But Scoop's anti-Lassr bluff was a great play that made up for the blunder.Grundbegriff wrote:I assume they killed me to waste Scoop's scan. Plus I'm quasi-trusted for helping to nuke trig. I hope he took my advice and scanned someone other than the target he declared aloud in advance!Holman wrote:...they have assassinated you!....
No spoilers.
Lana knew you had blown your protection block on RMC so got cute and protected bb2112 being unable to protect myself.Lassr wrote:Want to know our dumb luck. We agreed to not target LordMortis or Unagi or Stessier the first night. Give them some playing time even though triggercut said Unagi can read me. We figured Unagi would be the next night kill.
So we hit BB/Archer. Well, gets a miss out of the way. Then Triggercut gets killed after RMC is revealed and clears Remus. Wow we got behind the eightball real fast.
At this point with 3 proven players we could not pick them off and let Mallory scan freely. So it was wait on offing RMC when the pool was smaller or go for the hail mary and hope RMC reveals Lana or Malory to us. So we used the protection block and stessier was revealed to us as an normal ISIS.
So at least we had one less target and then stessier was killed by lynch which pretty much wasted the RMC scan.
Unagi was hounding me and Scoop El Guapo. Then Scoop reveals with El Guapo as assassin. I wanted to target Scoop in case Lana wanted to get cute and protect Remus hoping we would target elsewhere but El Guapo wanted to kill Grund so we could hope to put doubt in Scoop.
and the rest is history
Agreed. There have been games in which players deliberately misrepresented the rules for tactical reasons. Coming in with a correction could spoil someone's maneuver.LordMortis wrote:The one thing I would recommend is not clarifying rules unless we ask you for clarification.
Yes, I agree also. Didn't want to say anything in the game. Moderator should have no input unless asked.Grundbegriff wrote:Agreed. There have been games in which players deliberately misrepresented the rules for tactical reasons. Coming in with a correction could spoil someone's maneuver.LordMortis wrote:The one thing I would recommend is not clarifying rules unless we ask you for clarification.
Ha. I knew it, dammit, I knew it and should have really pressed for the Scoop kill.Remus West wrote:Lana knew you had blown your protection block on RMC so got cute and protected bb2112 being unable to protect myself.Lassr wrote:Want to know our dumb luck. We agreed to not target LordMortis or Unagi or Stessier the first night. Give them some playing time even though triggercut said Unagi can read me. We figured Unagi would be the next night kill.
So we hit BB/Archer. Well, gets a miss out of the way. Then Triggercut gets killed after RMC is revealed and clears Remus. Wow we got behind the eightball real fast.
At this point with 3 proven players we could not pick them off and let Mallory scan freely. So it was wait on offing RMC when the pool was smaller or go for the hail mary and hope RMC reveals Lana or Malory to us. So we used the protection block and stessier was revealed to us as an normal ISIS.
So at least we had one less target and then stessier was killed by lynch which pretty much wasted the RMC scan.
Unagi was hounding me and Scoop El Guapo. Then Scoop reveals with El Guapo as assassin. I wanted to target Scoop in case Lana wanted to get cute and protect Remus hoping we would target elsewhere but El Guapo wanted to kill Grund so we could hope to put doubt in Scoop.
and the rest is history
According to who is playing the role of Lana it could be interesting tonight. I could see someone like Grund protecting Remus hoping we would skip Scoop tonight thinking he was protected. Of course they would have to think we used Katya powers on RMC also.
sigh, this game is just going all wrong for us. Our scan from Cheryl is now dead so that bought us nothing.
I think we almost have to target Scoop tonight and hope Lana is trying to be cute. If we hold off and then target her tomorrow night and then she is protected then we are doubly screwed.
Offing Grund is a big risk if Scoop says he will scan Grund and then scans me instead. I would not trust that Scoop is going to scan who he says he will scan. Of course it would not matter if he scans me. You can claim Malory but the rule generally is to trust the one that came out first unless it is an end game situation which this is not. They would lynch you and when you didn't die they would know you are not Malory.
That wouldn't have worked, though. Killing Scoop would have proved his scan of me, and you were already under a lot of suspicion so there's no way you would've survived through the end. Plus as it turns out we were right about Scoop scanning Grund - he just pulled it out with that damn scan bluff.Lassr wrote:Ha. I knew it, dammit, I knew it and should have really pressed for the Scoop kill.Remus West wrote:Lana knew you had blown your protection block on RMC so got cute and protected bb2112 being unable to protect myself.Lassr wrote:Want to know our dumb luck. We agreed to not target LordMortis or Unagi or Stessier the first night. Give them some playing time even though triggercut said Unagi can read me. We figured Unagi would be the next night kill.
So we hit BB/Archer. Well, gets a miss out of the way. Then Triggercut gets killed after RMC is revealed and clears Remus. Wow we got behind the eightball real fast.
At this point with 3 proven players we could not pick them off and let Mallory scan freely. So it was wait on offing RMC when the pool was smaller or go for the hail mary and hope RMC reveals Lana or Malory to us. So we used the protection block and stessier was revealed to us as an normal ISIS.
So at least we had one less target and then stessier was killed by lynch which pretty much wasted the RMC scan.
Unagi was hounding me and Scoop El Guapo. Then Scoop reveals with El Guapo as assassin. I wanted to target Scoop in case Lana wanted to get cute and protect Remus hoping we would target elsewhere but El Guapo wanted to kill Grund so we could hope to put doubt in Scoop.
and the rest is history