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Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:57 pm

What is the Electoral College? No one knows, but they decide who gets to be President. This game will decide who gets their votes. I have tried to change up the powers for Evil and Good. One twist is that the Seer doesn't enter the game until one of the Good Specials dies. Because the Seer will be chosen among the villagers I am hoping this will keep the villagers with no Special powers involved in the game. Another twist is that the Night Protection is delayed until Gary gets enough lynch votes. It's a low threshold so I wouldn't expect it to take very long.

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Donald Trump: each night realDonaldTrump sends out a Tweet mocking someone from the Electoral College. Unless protected by Gary that person will be so sad that they leave the game humiliated and unable to continue their job in the College.

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Hillary Clinton: because she will say anything to anyone there is a 50% chance that Bernie's scan will come back as "Electoral College" instead of "Team Evil". When the scan fails she will be told that Bernie is in the game. If The Donald is lynched then Hillary will use her shrill voice to talk to an Electoral College member until they commit "suicide". :wink:

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Gary Johnson: If at any time during the game he receives at least 15% of the lynch vote (excluding a self-vote) then a Night Kill will fail against him. It will also trigger his power to protect one other player each night (can't be the same player two nights in a row).

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Jill Stein: she will get lost on the way to her own lynching. If voted to be lynched the lynch will fail and an announcement made that she traveled to the wrong city.

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Bernie Sanders: If either Gary or Jill are killed then Bernie will enter the race. He will be chosen randomly among the Electoral College members. Each night he will be able to scan for Team Evil. He will not be told their specific role. Bernie entering the game might be unknown to all the other players. For example, if Jill is killed at night then Bernie will enter the game and start his scans on the following night. This will not be made public so he can choose to "come out" to the village at any time.

All remaining players are members of the Electoral College.

Miscellaneous:

Team Good and Electoral College members can NOT PM any other player regarding the game.

Team Evil CAN PM each other.

Players can edit their posts during the game in progress, however if you edit your post, you MUST give an explanation of why/what you edited.

Dead players can NOT participate in the game - this includes providing information, encouragement, tips or otherwise. Dead players are eligible to ONE post following his death. This one post follows the same rules as before - cannot influence the game, and so forth.

Voting can only take place in the daytime. Any votes made during the night will not be counted.

You can retract and change your vote at any time up to the close of the vote.

The game will begin at DAYTIME.

Specials CAN pre-emptively send in their actions during the daytime for the following night. Specials are allowed to change pre-emptive actions unless it has already been resolved.

Turn order during the night:

Bernie scans
Gary protects
Donald Tweets
Hillary talks

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by El Guapo » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:48 pm

:D Nice. Written like a true third party voter. I haven't given any thought to whether the rules present any balance issues.

But regardless, I want to declare that I will be a candidate for participation in this game.

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Post by bb2112 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:35 pm

Some interesting concepts. I'm in. :D
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Post by Remus West » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:22 am

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I'd point out that Gary's trigger is manipulation sensitive. Any village is quickly going to drop 15% of the vote on every player day 1 to be sure his protection power gets activated.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:47 am

Remus West wrote:In
I'd point out that Gary's trigger is manipulation sensitive. Any village is quickly going to drop 15% of the vote on every player day 1 to be sure his protection power gets activated.
Yep. It's not meant to be a real roadblock. Unlike the 15% poll requirement for him to get into the Presidential debates. :wink:
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Post by RMC » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:04 am

I'll be In once the current one is over. :)
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Post by Scoop20906 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:29 pm

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Post by Scoop20906 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:30 pm

Bernie scans
Gary protects
Donald Tweets
Hillary talks
This just made me smile reading it out of context of the game. :mrgreen:
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:27 am

Scoop20906 wrote:IN as long as I get to be Trump again!
Talk to random.org.

Does anyone have thoughts about the rules and how they balance the players?
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Unagi » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:41 pm

I worry that you have made some strange 'super good guy' out of your super hero. Protects and can't be killed at night - sorta a team-evil nightmare.
just putting it out there. And also - there is the part that Remus mentioned, that we would be compelled to march players through the 15% rigaramo just to cover the game mechanics (we are like that).

I'm IN, either way. But that seems like a haunting problem in some regards. (haven't looked a ton beyond that)

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Unagi » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:43 pm

Moliere wrote:Because the Seer will be chosen among the villagers I am hoping this will keep the villagers with no Special powers involved in the game.
I seriously can't stand players that tune the game out when they don't get a special role. Fuck them, I hope they don't sign up.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:06 am

Unagi wrote:I worry that you have made some strange 'super good guy' out of your super hero. Protects and can't be killed at night - sorta a team-evil nightmare.
just putting it out there. And also - there is the part that Remus mentioned, that we would be compelled to march players through the 15% rigaramo just to cover the game mechanics (we are like that).
Isn't he just a standard hunter who can self-protect and protect someone else? I only added the 15% to be cheeky.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Unagi » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:19 am

Maybe I'm just not reading your rules as you intended them to be read.
the 15% gains him total immunity from night kills


Maybe I am not reading this right:
If at any time during the game he receives at least 15% of the lynch vote (excluding a self-vote) then a Night Kill will fail against him.
So any good villager will participate in a Day 1 exercise to make sure that Every Player has met the criteria. Making sure that any following Night Kill would fail against the protector, no matter who he is.

Maybe this isn't your intent but the rule says it, and I think this is what Remus was commenting on too.

A 'regular' protector makes a choice at night where he can be one of the protected players but he can't protect the same player twice in a row.

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Post by Remus West » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:51 am

I read that to mean a kill kill attempt the first night following the 15% only not every night kill attempt against him.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Vorret » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:56 am

makes sense to be a one time only, needs to exclude self vote as well so he can't self protect when there's not many players left.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Unagi » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:53 pm

Remus West wrote:I read that to mean a kill kill attempt the first night following the 15% only not every night kill attempt against him.
right, but then on the second day, he could get re-15%ed.

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:05 pm

Unagi wrote:
Remus West wrote:I read that to mean a kill kill attempt the first night following the 15% only not every night kill attempt against him.
right, but then on the second day, he could get re-15%ed.
The 15% is a one-time requirement. Let's make it so he can self-protect or protect someone else without repeating the same person two days in a row.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by El Guapo » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:15 pm

While the 15% mechanism is funny, honestly I think it should be scrapped. Game wise there's no reason I can see for the village *not* to vote everyone to 15% every day (at least until Johnson is outed / killed), but entertainment wise that's going to be un-fun drudgery.

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:28 pm

El Guapo wrote:While the 15% mechanism is funny, honestly I think it should be scrapped. Game wise there's no reason I can see for the village *not* to vote everyone to 15% every day (at least until Johnson is outed / killed), but entertainment wise that's going to be un-fun drudgery.
That's why it only has to be done once. I didn't want the daily drugery of voting everyone up to 15%.
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Post by bb2112 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:29 pm

Moliere wrote:
El Guapo wrote:While the 15% mechanism is funny, honestly I think it should be scrapped. Game wise there's no reason I can see for the village *not* to vote everyone to 15% every day (at least until Johnson is outed / killed), but entertainment wise that's going to be un-fun drudgery.
That's why it only has to be done once. I didn't want the daily drugery of voting everyone up to 15%.
Yeah, but have you met us? Of course we are going to game the system. :D
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by El Guapo » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:09 pm

Moliere wrote:
El Guapo wrote:While the 15% mechanism is funny, honestly I think it should be scrapped. Game wise there's no reason I can see for the village *not* to vote everyone to 15% every day (at least until Johnson is outed / killed), but entertainment wise that's going to be un-fun drudgery.
That's why it only has to be done once. I didn't want the daily drugery of voting everyone up to 15%.
Fair enough, but it's still going to be a drag for the village to vote everyone to 15% on day 1. It should be an ability that starts active, since we're just going to go through the legwork of making it immediately active anyway.

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Unagi » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:40 am

I think maybe Moliere is just insisting on making a few political points here.

For instance, I was going to suggest that Gary was also given the special power to, once per game, kill the Hillary character during the day. :D

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Post by Moliere » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:22 am

El Guapo wrote:Fair enough, but it's still going to be a drag for the village to vote everyone to 15% on day 1. It should be an ability that starts active, since we're just going to go through the legwork of making it immediately active anyway.
Does it make you feel like you're wasting your vote? :wink:
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

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Moliere wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Fair enough, but it's still going to be a drag for the village to vote everyone to 15% on day 1. It should be an ability that starts active, since we're just going to go through the legwork of making it immediately active anyway.
Does it make you feel like you're wasting your vote? :wink:
I am told that it is never a waste to vote third party.

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Post by Unagi » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:54 am

Bernie's scan seems hopelessly mired in the 50/50 reliability on one of the wolves.

No 'good' scan will be worth anything. I'm always a little wary of 'die roll' events in these games (beyond the assignments).

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:03 am

Unagi wrote:Bernie's scan seems hopelessly mired in the 50/50 reliability on one of the wolves.

No 'good' scan will be worth anything. I'm always a little wary of 'die roll' events in these games (beyond the assignments).
I always prefer some mystery in my hosted games. Usually it's some kind of secret conversion at any time mechanism.
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Any of that in this one?

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:11 pm

Unagi wrote:Any of that in this one?
No secret conversions, but Bernie entering the game and the potential failure of his scan fill that void.
I was thinking of adding a 3rd villain to enter the game like Bernie, but don't know if we will have enough players.
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:31 am

Moliere wrote:I was thinking of adding a 3rd villain to enter the game like Bernie, but don't know if we will have enough players.
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How about this: if anyone says "Ann Coulter" 3 times in a row then a random non-Special village member is converted to Team Evil. She will be given the power to scan for Specials.
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Post by Unagi » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:27 pm

Personally, I'm out if there are conversions.

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Post by Moliere » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:03 pm

Unagi wrote:Personally, I'm out if there are conversions.
You don't have to worry. Not enough people are signing up so this game isn't going to happen.
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Post by Lassr » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:50 pm

Moliere wrote:
Unagi wrote:Personally, I'm out if there are conversions.
You don't have to worry. Not enough people are signing up so this game isn't going to happen.
you never know, you could get some last minute voter registrations. I'll probably be in, just been very busy the past week. How many do you want before starting?
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by Moliere » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:17 pm

Lassr wrote:you never know, you could get some last minute voter registrations. I'll probably be in, just been very busy the past week. How many do you want before starting?
Or dead and illegal registrants. I hear they will be used more frequently this election. Maybe 5 more?
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by El Guapo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:58 am

This game doesn't require voter ID right? I have a feeling you may hit your minimum... :ninja:

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Post by Moliere » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:07 am

El Guapo wrote:This game doesn't require voter ID right?
nope
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Re: Electoral College Accreditation

Post by El Guapo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:07 am

I, ElGuapoDC, would also like to sign up for this game.

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