Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Game Over

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:48 pm

Don't tie, as I expect bb gets to break ties...possibly by killing BOTH!

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:59 pm

Due to timing, there can never be a tie. As soon as someone gets voted up to majority all further voting stops and they will be the lynch. If things are close, I will check time stamps to make sure of the order of events if necessary, and it has happened before.

If the deadline comes to pass without a majority vote, day goes into night without a lynch.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:15 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:BB2112, can I get a waiver to edit/remove my previous vote count post since it was wrong?
No, do not edit your post. If you want to post a new unofficial count that is up to you. I will allow them as long as they are not intentionally used to create mass confusion and are truly intended to help the game along. I will put a new official vote count out as soon as I have a little time.

I will not be putting the vote tally on this first page. I will put it in the thread at the time I do the tally so the players will see it as the vote count at that point in time. Doing it it in two places is just asking for errors and the resulting confusion. Sort of like posting a wrong unofficial vote tally.

AGGGHHHH!!!

Ok, I'm not posting anymore unofficial vote counts. PLEASE IGNORE MY INABILITY TO COPY AND PASTE CORRECTLY!!!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:19 pm

Scoop

for the confusing vote count and Jar jar picture

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:45 pm

Holman wrote:
Punisher wrote:2 Things.

1) Any way to keep the running score on the first page so we dont have to dig for it?
2) what happens in a tie?
Did anyone answer Question #2?

There can't be a tie. The lynch is locked in as soon as there's a true majority. (So with 18 players today we'll need 10 votes for a lynch.)

With a lynch today [game time] and a kill tonight, we'll start game-day 2 with 16 players, requiring 9 votes for a lynch.

Of course special abilities and protections can change the tally, so it's not unlikely that we'll start some morning with an odd number of players, but the true-majority rule holds at all times.

10 votes for a specific person or 10 votes total?
we already hit 10 votes total so that cant be it, but 14 people already voted leaving only 4 votes left so noone will be able to hit 10 votes...
I'm so confused...

can we switch to tic tac toe?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:58 pm

10 votes for a specific person. Yes, it will require that some people shift their votes to reach a majority.

The first day (this one) is usually long and frustrating because we have so little to go on. As the bodies pile up, the game becomes one of looking for clues about who pushed for which death, and also of special roles using (or hinting at use of, and others bluffing) their powers.

Other better players can tell you more, but of course YOU ALREADY HAVE IT FROM YOUR EVIL PARTNERS etc.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:42 pm

bb2112 wrote:Due to timing, there can never be a tie. As soon as someone gets voted up to majority all further voting stops and they will be the lynch. If things are close, I will check time stamps to make sure of the order of events if necessary, and it has happened before.

If the deadline comes to pass without a majority vote, day goes into night without a lynch.

No tie of majority, but with 18 we could tie at 9-9. So no majority, so no lynch.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:02 pm

I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:32 pm

Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.

My feeling as well.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:36 pm

I've been burned by the puppy dog routine before but I won't vote for him on day one. I truly am enjoying his enthusiasm.

[plug] Punisher, I hope you stick around for Starship R.Scott III coming up after this game.[/plug]

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:51 pm

Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.

I concur!

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:52 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:I've been burned by the puppy dog routine before but I won't vote for him on day one. I truly am enjoying his enthusiasm.

[plug] Punisher, I hope you stick around for Starship R.Scott III coming up after this game.[/plug]

If it's similar to this type of game and my mind doesn't explode I would be willing to give it a try.
No idea what that theme is though.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:58 pm

Punisher wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I've been burned by the puppy dog routine before but I won't vote for him on day one. I truly am enjoying his enthusiasm.

[plug] Punisher, I hope you stick around for Starship R.Scott III coming up after this game.[/plug]
If it's similar to this type of game and my mind doesn't explode I would be willing to give it a try.
No idea what that theme is though.

Theme doesn't really matter as long as you get to lynch Scoop.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:26 pm

Holman wrote:
Punisher wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I've been burned by the puppy dog routine before but I won't vote for him on day one. I truly am enjoying his enthusiasm.

[plug] Punisher, I hope you stick around for Starship R.Scott III coming up after this game.[/plug]
If it's similar to this type of game and my mind doesn't explode I would be willing to give it a try.
No idea what that theme is though.
Theme doesn't really matter as long as you get to lynch Scoop.

OK, I'm modding that game so you can't lynch me.

NANA NANA BOO BOO

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:33 pm

Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.

Good call.

withdraw Punisher

lassr

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:37 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Holman wrote:
Punisher wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:[plug] Punisher, I hope you stick around for Starship R.Scott III coming up after this game.[/plug]
No idea what that theme is though.
Theme doesn't really matter as long as you get to lynch Scoop.
OK, I'm modding that game so you can't lynch me

Which is why we do it here, and let him go get his game ready.

Scoop

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:39 pm

Newcastle wrote:
Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.
Good call.

withdraw Punisher

lassr

Seriously, it does feel like Lassr and Grund are coming to his aid which seems like trouble to me. With these games it was sink or swim on your own. I'll probably withdraw my vote, but I think it's best to go into Night without a lynch so we can get some data?

Thoughts?

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:25 pm

I don't think BB is going to let us get away without lynching anyone will he? He just said no ties.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:28 pm

Nothing in Punisher's play reads to me as suspicious yet. Either he's genuinely trying to figure out Day One play for the first time or he's performing that attempt well enough that he's giving nothing away. It's a net neutral.

I'm more concerned about the players hanging back and lying low.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:30 pm

Archinerd wrote:I don't think BB is going to let us get away without lynching anyone will he? He just said no ties.

We miss our chance for a lynch if there's no majority by the time limit.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:00 pm

Yes, we have less data if there's no lynch.

Punisher kicking up smoke for the Empire would be pretty damn ballsy, but jury's still out. But odds are pretty good he's not the seer.

Time for a few people to speak up.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:44 pm

tru1cy wrote:
Newcastle wrote:
Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.
Good call.

withdraw Punisher

lassr

Seriously, it does feel like Lassr and Grund are coming to his aid which seems like trouble to me. With these games it was sink or swim on your own. I'll probably withdraw my vote, but I think it's best to go into Night without a lynch so we can get some data?

Thoughts?

I'd rather have a lynch, never know when you might get lucky. Also it gets us more data to work with later.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:52 pm

So, just in case I make it to round 2, how does a lynching help us acquire data other than knowing who was lynched?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:54 pm

The voting records and player interactions give you info. Odds are there are evil players on the lynch, which narrows the field. You know if you hit a good or evil player.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:11 am

Of course, much of that will be interpretation of players.

Depends of the person as to how they behave when under the microscope, what they will do to avoid notice, or whether certain players will behave in certain ways based on alignment within the game.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:13 am

Isgrimnur wrote:The voting records and player interactions give you info. Odds are there are evil players on the lynch, which narrows the field. You know if you hit a good or evil player.

True, day time starts have never been my preference. Still undecided if I'm going to pull my vote from Punisher as no else has piqued my interest like him

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:06 am

Day 1 Votes:
1. Newcastle -----> Punisher, Lassr
2. El Guapo -------> Grundbegriff
3. Remus West ---> Newcastle
4. Chaosraven ----> Scoop20906
5. Lassr ------------> Scoop20906
6. Moliere ---------> Vorret
7. Archinerd ------> Chaosraven
8. Scoop20906 ----> Vorret
9. RMC -------------> Vorret
10. Isgrimnur ------> Punisher
11. PLW ------------> Holman
12. Punisher -------> Moliere
13. Holman --------> Moliere
14. Vorret ----------> Punisher
15. Grundbegriff --> Scoop20906
16. Unagi -----------> Moliere
17. Zarathud -------> Chaosraven, Moliere
18. Tru1cy ----------> Punisher

Votes:
4 Moliere - Holman, Zarathud, Unagi, Punisher
3 Scoop20906 - Grundbegriff, Lassr, Chaosraven
3 Vorret - Scoop20906, RMC, Moliere
2 Punisher - Vorret, Tru1cy
1 Chaosraven - Archinerd
1 Grundbegriff - El Guapo
1 Newcastle - Remus West
1 Holman - PLW
1 Lassr - Newcastle

10 Votes Needed

Dead:
Under New Management - Grand Opening Coming Soon

Deadline:
Thursday, March 2nd at 9PM

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:00 pm

tru1cy wrote:
Newcastle wrote:
Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.
Good call.

withdraw Punisher

lassr

Seriously, it does feel like Lassr and Grund are coming to his aid which seems like trouble to me. With these games it was sink or swim on your own. I'll probably withdraw my vote, but I think it's best to go into Night without a lynch so we can get some data?

Thoughts?

I sorta agree but I also sorta agree that letting the new guy play more than one round is not a terrible idea even though I still believe he's evil.
Bit of a wash, I doubt 2 evil player would put their neck on the line simply to save him.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:14 pm

FWIW (not that I believe Grund or Lassr can ever be truly Good, even when they are), speaking up and saying "Let him live even if he's bad" doesn't read to me as wolves-protecting-wolf behavior.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:52 pm

Let's celebrate Family Day by lynching the moose riding, maple syrup eating, overly polite Canadian, eh?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:05 pm

Moliere wrote:Let's celebrate Family Day by lynching the moose riding, maple syrup eating, overly polite Canadian, eh?

I don't have a family so screw that holiday

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:11 pm

Lassr wrote:
tru1cy wrote:
Newcastle wrote:
Lassr wrote:I say switch your punisher vote to elsewhere. Punisher may be a bad guy but let's give him some experience playing and maybe he will come back for more. Let's see where we stand in a few days.
Good call.

withdraw Punisher

lassr

Seriously, it does feel like Lassr and Grund are coming to his aid which seems like trouble to me. With these games it was sink or swim on your own. I'll probably withdraw my vote, but I think it's best to go into Night without a lynch so we can get some data?

Thoughts?
I'd rather have a lynch, never know when you might get lucky. Also it gets us more data to work with later.

2 good points...alas i cant vote for you....for now mwhahahahahahahahahah

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:12 pm

Is that the same as Life Day?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:13 pm

Moliere wrote:Let's celebrate Family Day by lynching the moose riding, maple syrup eating, overly polite Canadian, eh?

so lets go with our canadian hater

remove lassr

moliere

i mean only the dark side would want to off the overly nice canucks right? we have to stand up for decency in this world; and not give in to our dark side thoughts. There must be room in this world for politeness, because if we lose that. We truly have lost!....

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:14 pm

Newcastle wrote:
Moliere wrote:Let's celebrate Family Day by lynching the moose riding, maple syrup eating, overly polite Canadian, eh?

so lets go with our canadian hater

remove lassr

moliere

i mean only the dark side would want to off the overly nice canucks right? we have to stand up for decency in this world; and not give in to our dark side thoughts. There must be room in this world for politeness, because if we lose that. We truly have lost!....mwahahahahahahahaha

tad gum it!!!!!! and here i thought was being so doggone clever.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:14 pm

bb2112 wrote:Day 1 Votes:
1. Newcastle -----> Punisher, Lassr
2. El Guapo -------> Grundbegriff
3. Remus West ---> Newcastle
4. Chaosraven ----> Scoop20906
5. Lassr ------------> Scoop20906
6. Moliere ---------> Vorret
7. Archinerd ------> Chaosraven
8. Scoop20906 ----> Vorret
9. RMC -------------> Vorret
10. Isgrimnur ------> Punisher
11. PLW ------------> Holman
12. Punisher -------> Moliere
13. Holman --------> Moliere
14. Vorret ----------> Punisher
15. Grundbegriff --> Scoop20906
16. Unagi -----------> Moliere
17. Zarathud -------> Chaosraven, Moliere
18. Tru1cy ----------> Punisher

Votes:
4 Moliere - Holman, Zarathud, Unagi, Punisher
3 Scoop20906 - Grundbegriff, Lassr, Chaosraven
3 Vorret - Scoop20906, RMC, Moliere
2 Punisher - Vorret, Tru1cy
1 Chaosraven - Archinerd
1 Grundbegriff - El Guapo
1 Newcastle - Remus West
1 Holman - PLW
1 Lassr - Newcastle

10 Votes Needed

Dead:
Under New Management - Grand Opening Coming Soon

Deadline:
Thursday, March 2nd at 9PM

Did scoop hack bb2112's account, because I don't remember voting for Moliere (or anyone yet for that matter)

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:16 pm

Vorret wrote: even though I still believe he's evil.

In game or RL? In RL, I make no promises... In Game, I will say that I am not evil.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:18 pm

Punisher wrote:
bb2112 wrote:Day 1 Votes:
1. Newcastle -----> Punisher, Lassr
2. El Guapo -------> Grundbegriff
3. Remus West ---> Newcastle
4. Chaosraven ----> Scoop20906
5. Lassr ------------> Scoop20906
6. Moliere ---------> Vorret
7. Archinerd ------> Chaosraven
8. Scoop20906 ----> Vorret
9. RMC -------------> Vorret
10. Isgrimnur ------> Punisher
11. PLW ------------> Holman
12. Punisher -------> Moliere
13. Holman --------> Moliere
14. Vorret ----------> Punisher
15. Grundbegriff --> Scoop20906
16. Unagi -----------> Moliere
17. Zarathud -------> Chaosraven, Moliere
18. Tru1cy ----------> Punisher

Votes:
4 Moliere - Holman, Zarathud, Unagi, Punisher
3 Scoop20906 - Grundbegriff, Lassr, Chaosraven
3 Vorret - Scoop20906, RMC, Moliere
2 Punisher - Vorret, Tru1cy
1 Chaosraven - Archinerd
1 Grundbegriff - El Guapo
1 Newcastle - Remus West
1 Holman - PLW
1 Lassr - Newcastle

10 Votes Needed

Dead:
Under New Management - Grand Opening Coming Soon

Deadline:
Thursday, March 2nd at 9PM
Did scoop hack bb2112's account, because I don't remember voting for Moliere (or anyone yet for that matter)

See! More proof of FAKE NEWS!!

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:22 pm

Punisher wrote: Did scoop hack bb2112's account, because I don't remember voting for Moliere (or anyone yet for that matter)

Just take the win. BB is trying to guide you to make a good solid lynching choice....just saying.

either that or someone has unleashed an awesome force power!!!!!

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:34 pm

Punisher wrote:
Did scoop hack bb2112's account, because I don't remember voting for Moliere (or anyone yet for that matter)

You are right. You were quoting someone with the accuse tags. Sorry. I will make the correction.