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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:54 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: Isgrimnur -I think issy is empire this game. He looks like he is trying to be a safe vote on the hot bandwagon.
You weren't the leading bandwagon when I voted for you. Moliere was the frontrunner. So if I wanted to push on a hot bandwagon, it wouldn't have been you.
bb2112 wrote:Day 1 Votes - Corrected:
Votes:
4 Moliere - Holman, Zarathud, Unagi, Newcastle
3 Scoop20906 - Grundbegriff, Lassr, Chaosraven
Vorret wrote: Punisher 
 


I'm going to defend myself from those repeated attacks

 Moliere 
 
Chaosraven wrote: MOLIERE 
 


FLAGPOLE RUN!
Isgrimnur wrote:I'll try to make this a two-horse race.

 Scoop20906 
 
You really are just proving my point. A baddie doesn't want to be the first vote or last vote but early enough to not look like he is piling on. Pretty much what you did. Hence my comment.
Isgrimnur wrote:Proving your point by proving you wrong. Got it.
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Isgrimnur wrote:Proving your point by proving you wrong. Got it.
Wait a sec, are you proving me wrong that you were the third vote on my bandwagon (cause you were) or proving me wrong that you aren't am Imp because you did neither.

I still think your an Imp. My reason is still true (your voting position) although my conclusions about your alignment are solely my own but I think if we took a vote the condenses would be your vote is in a known wolf position. Doesn't prove anything tho. :csmile:
Isgrimnur & Scoop argument on day 1. Isgrimnur's right that Scoop was not the "hot bandwagon" when he voted for him, although Scoop is correct that the voting / timing / position was mildly wolfy (though that's of limited evidentiary value).

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:56 pm

Unagi wrote:We should probably be offing RMC, as he is indeed the one playing this day the most safe.
So wise.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 1

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:00 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:OMG I can not one-handed type. I need an extra arm!

OK, we just need one more vote removed please.

Let me stake out my position. Personally I hate voting for Newcastle. He is one of my favorite personalities however I'm happy to get a baddie if he is one. Frankly, I can't tell what is up with him so far but I do know he needs to not keep us in the dark. I suspect most likely he is a normal rebel like me but I'm not positive and I'm not sure what game he is playing. I appreciate his support of my being Star Wars Cliff but I'm not naive enough to not see that as a way to get my undying support of him.

BUT I LOVE KILL VOTE SO MUCH so ...
Scoop as the Newcastle lynch approaches the station. Real or fake hesitancy? Suggests that Scoop is not Joruus at a minimum (nor Isgrimnur, who is around as the lynch approaches but does not join), although since we don't know whether the final guy is Joruus or Dooku that's not super helpful.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:03 pm

bb2112 wrote:Day 1 Votes:
1. Newcastle -----> Punisher, Lassr, Moliere, Vorret, Remus West, Grundbegriff, Remus West, Vorret, Remus West
2. El Guapo -------> Grundbegriff, Tru1cy, Vorret, Newcastle
3. Remus West ---> Newcastle, Scoop20906, Newcastle
4. Chaosraven ----> Scoop20906, Moliere, Scoop20906, Newcastle
5. Lassr ------------> Scoop20e906, Newcastle
6. Moliere ---------> Vorret, Scoop20906, Newcastle
7. Archinerd ------> Chaosraven, Scoop20906, Unagi, Newcastle
8. Scoop20906 ----> Vorret
9. RMC -------------> Vorret, Newcastle
10. Isgrimnur ------> Punisher, Scoop20906
11. PLW ------------> Holman
12. Punisher -------> Vorret, Newcastle
13. Holman --------> Moliere, Unagi, Newcastle
14. Vorret ----------> Punisher, Moliere, Scoop20906, Newcastle
15. Grundbegriff --> Scoop20906
16. Unagi -----------> Moliere, Holman, Scoop20906, Remus West, Newcastle
17. Zarathud -------> Chaosraven, Moliere, Unagi, Newcastle
18. Tru1cy ----------> Punisher, Vorret

Votes:
10 Newcastle - Remus West, Lassr, Chaosraven, Zarathud, RMC, Vorret, Moliere, Punisher, El Guapo, Unagi
2 Vorret - Scoop20906, Tru1cy
2 Scoop20906 - Grundbegriff, Isgrimnur
1 Remus West - Newcastle
1 Holman - PLW


10 Votes Needed

Dead:
Under New Management - Grand Opening Coming Soon

Deadline:
Thursday, March 2nd at 9PM

I think I have this right. If there are any errors, please let me know.
Day 1 final vote.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by Archinerd » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:03 pm

bb2112 wrote:Day 3 Votes:
1. El Guapo ------>
2. Remus West --> El Guapo, Zarathud, RMC
3. Chaosraven ---> RMC
4. Lassr -----------> Zarathud, El Guapo, RMC
5. Moliere --------> Unagi
6. Archinerd -----> Unagi, RMC
7. Scoop20906 ---> El Guapo, RMC
8. RMC ------------> Unagi
9. Isgrimnur ------> Zarathud
10. PLW -----------> El Guapo
11. Punisher ------>
12. Holman -------> Unagi
13. Unagi ----------> RMC, Zarathud, RMC
14. Zarathud ------> Unagi

Votes:
6 RMC - Archinerd, Unagi, Scoop20906, Chaosraven, Remus West, Lassr
4 Unagi - Zarathud, Moliere, RMC, Holman
1 El Guapo - PLW
1 Zarathud - Isgrimnur


8 Votes Needed

Dead:
Day 1 - Newcastle -------> Stabbed
Night 1 - Grundbegriff --> Strangled
Day 2 - Tru1cy -----------> Bashed
Night 2 - Vorret ----------> Sacrificed

Deadline:
Deadline: Monday, March 20th, 8PM EDT

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by Archinerd » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:05 pm

Above:
The first run up on RMC when he eventually claimed Special. All known wolves are voting elsewhere. Would wolf Scoop vote RMC or is Issy trying to hide by voting Zarathud?

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:06 pm

So, pretty sure that Joruus is dead and that our final wolf (Scoop or Isgrimnur) is Dooku. No real reason why Joruus wouldn't have been on the Newcastle vote, since it took forever, both were online and posted as Newcastle approached the lynch, and Newcastle did his weird "you'll know my name" bit as the lynch approached, meaning that there was a higher than normal chance of him being a Jedi.

Which means that RMC was Joruus, which means that if the wolves got a scan it would've needed to have been before RMC died.

Also a reminder to me and Archinerd to not cast a loose vote. I assume that Dooku has already put his extra vote in.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:13 pm

Archinerd wrote:Above:
The first run up on RMC when he eventually claimed Special. All known wolves are voting elsewhere. Would wolf Scoop vote RMC or is Issy trying to hide by voting Zarathud?
Depends on the timing. The wolves don't want RMC to hang when there's a chance of lynching a villager instead (obviously) but want to have at least one of them on the lynch when and if it happens. And since RMC was Joruus no possibility of getting a scan by being on the vote.

I'll have to look at the posts as the lynch approached but IIRC the RMC train was very late (RMC's special reveal was very, very late), so there was never a "get on the inevitable train" moment with him that day.

Of note is that Isgrimnur is voting for a wolf (PLW) at the end. I'll have to look at that too, although pretty sure PLW was never in real danger there so *possible* that it was cover for Isgrimnur? Of course always a danger that that could become a real train.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by El Guapo » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:14 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Archinerd wrote:Above:
The first run up on RMC when he eventually claimed Special. All known wolves are voting elsewhere. Would wolf Scoop vote RMC or is Issy trying to hide by voting Zarathud?
Depends on the timing. The wolves don't want RMC to hang when there's a chance of lynching a villager instead (obviously) but want to have at least one of them on the lynch when and if it happens. And since RMC was Joruus no possibility of getting a scan by being on the vote.

I'll have to look at the posts as the lynch approached but IIRC the RMC train was very late (RMC's special reveal was very, very late), so there was never a "get on the inevitable train" moment with him that day.

Of note is that Isgrimnur is voting for a wolf (PLW) at the end. I'll have to look at that too, although pretty sure PLW was never in real danger there so *possible* that it was cover for Isgrimnur? Of course always a danger that that could become a real train.
CORRECTION: the wolf that Isgrimnur was voting for was Zarathud, not PLW.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by Archinerd » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:00 am

Who are you leaning toward voting for El Guapo?

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:10 am

Archinerd wrote:Who are you leaning toward voting for El Guapo?
I want to finish my thread re-read today, then I'll reach a tentative conclusion. Then probably vote for the other person, given my instincts for most of this game.

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Post by Scoop20906 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:23 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Archinerd, I'm curious what important votes you think I avoided.


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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:26 am

Isgrimnur wrote:
Votes:
10 Newcastle - Remus West, Lassr, Chaosraven, Zarathud, RMC, Vorret, Moliere, Punisher, El Guapo, Unagi

Day 2 Votes - Final:
Votes:
9 Tru1cy - El Guapo, Zarathud, Vorret, Chaosraven, Remus West, RMC, Scoop20906, Unagi, Holman
Day 3 Votes:
Votes:
7 Unagi - Zarathud, Moliere, RMC, Holman, Isgrimnur, Chaosraven, El Guapo

Day 4 Votes - Final:
7 RMC -> Holman, El Guapo, Isgrimnur, Moliere, Lassr, PLW, Archinerd

Blue is three votes, continued Red is all four.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Night 1

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:28 am

Remus West wrote:
bb2112 wrote:As night falls everyone finds a place to bed down. It seems like only a few minutes passes before Isgrimnur starts banging on a pot with a spoon. “Breakfast is ready! Time to wake up!” Everyone starts gathering around the table when someone notices Grund is not moving in the corner.

PLW nudges Moliere, “Will you go wake up that guy. He said he was going to be all over this issue about finding Rebels and all he has done since he got here is sleep. Sheesh.”

Moliere walks over to Grund and pushes gently with his foot. Grund rolls over with his glassy eyes staring up into space. “Crap guys, I think he is dead.” He reaches down to feel for a pulse and quickly takes his hand back and starts wiping it on his pants. “Yep, he is definitely dead. If we needed any more proof that we have Imperials in our midst, I guess this would be it.”

Scoop20906 looks around at all the faces, “We need to solve this thing and fast. I’m way too good looking to die.”


Grundbegriff is Dead
Holy crap! PLW slipped in the flavor text. :shock:

@bb2112 We are looking for Imperials. :P
bb2112 tried to warn us!

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:31 am

Archinerd wrote:Okay. So my first take on the Grund kill is it's an attempt to make Scoop look bad.
I'm not convinced Scoop is Imperial... yet.
Hmmm. Archinerd, seeing as how you are still alive, can you add more on why you thought the Grund kill was an attempt to make Scoop look bad?

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:35 am

Vorret wrote:By the way if Punisher turns out to be Empire I'm gonna have one big I TOLD YOU SO party at my place later, drinks are on me.
Does this mean no party? :cry:

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:36 am

Punisher wrote:
Vorret wrote:By the way if Punisher turns out to be Empire I'm gonna have one big I TOLD YOU SO party at my place later, drinks are on me.

Just to be clear... When I am found to not be Imp, I will get to say I told you so... and drinks will still be on you.
Oh, ok.

Thanks, Vorret. Let me know when we should show up at your place.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:38 am

Isgrimnur wrote: Holman 
 
has pretty much escaped scrutiny so far. I'm sure I can come up with an ex post facto justification at some point.
This is Isgrimnur's style this game. Question is: disengaged villager or wolf seeking thin vote justifications for parking votes?

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:39 am

Lassr wrote:6. Archinerd
8. RMC
9. Isgrimnur
10. PLW
12. Holman
13. Vorret
15. Zarathud

I have a bad feeling about this group...

just a feeling that 3, if not all 4, bad guys are here.
Not bad.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:46 am

bb2112 wrote:Day 2 Votes:
1. El Guapo ------> Moliere
2. Remus West --> Zarathud
3. Chaosraven --->
4. Lassr -----------> RMC, Zarathud
5. Moliere --------> Vorret, Unagi
6. Archinerd -----> Punisher, Unagi
7. Scoop20906 ---> Vorret
8. RMC ------------> Zarathud
9. Isgrimnur ------> Holman
10. PLW -----------> El Guapo
11. Punisher ------> Vorret
12. Holman -------> Unagi
13. Vorret ---------> Punisher
14. Unagi ---------->
15. Zarathud ------> Moliere
16. Tru1cy ---------> Punisher

Votes:
3 Unagi - Holman, Moliere, Archinerd
3 Zarathud - RMC, Remus West, Lassr
2 Vorret - Scoop20906, Punisher
2 Moliere - El Guapo, Zarathud
2 Punisher - Tru1cy, Vorret
1 El Guapo - PLW
1 Holman - Isgrimnur
Early day 2. Scoop votes for (villager Vorret). Then:

Isgrimnur wrote: Vorret 
 

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:46 am

Unagi wrote: Scoop 
 


I'd like to test Scoop....


Anyone else recall the 'funny picture posting evil Scoop' - - that may be happening again here.
Unagi is usually right about everything.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:48 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Ok. The way I'm looking at it. I still want to test vorret. Why are people avoiding this vote.

I could vote issy for his wolf-like or as Unagi put it "safe play". Really stands out.

I can also vote Zarathud mostly because I don't think I've killed him yet.


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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by Vorret » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:13 am

El Guapo wrote:
Punisher wrote:
Vorret wrote:By the way if Punisher turns out to be Empire I'm gonna have one big I TOLD YOU SO party at my place later, drinks are on me.

Just to be clear... When I am found to not be Imp, I will get to say I told you so... and drinks will still be on you.
Oh, ok.

Thanks, Vorret. Let me know when we should show up at your place.
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His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:21 am

Remus West wrote: Zarathud 
 
because I have a theory that I don't have to share. :P
Man, the wolves really missed this glaring seer warning.

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El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote: Zarathud 
 
because I have a theory that I don't have to share. :P
Man, the wolves really missed this glaring seer warning.
Huh, in hindsight I missed that too. What day did that happen on?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:29 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote: Zarathud 
 
because I have a theory that I don't have to share. :P
Man, the wolves really missed this glaring seer warning.
Huh, in hindsight I missed that too. What day did that happen on?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:31 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote: Zarathud 
 
because I have a theory that I don't have to share. :P
Man, the wolves really missed this glaring seer warning.
Huh, in hindsight I missed that too. What day did that happen on?
Day 2. I.e., the day right after Remus scanned Zarathud.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:48 am

Scoop20906 wrote:I think my vote is in the right place. Tru1cy seems no different than normal to me.

Let's vote vorret!!


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Day 2, as the tru1cy train approaches the station. It would have been pretty easy / non-suspicious for wolf Scoop to switch to tru1cy to help make sure that he gets lynched. Although Scoop's vote is on another villager, so could also be a "stay off the lynch to get credibility when tru1cy comes back villager" ploy.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 2

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:57 am

Scoop20906 wrote: withdrawal vorret 
 


OK. Vorret has a provable claim. That's good. I suppose protecting him makes sense but what do we do tomorrow with him if he refuses to use his power then. Cross that bridge when we come to it I guess.

I'm switching my vote to tru1cy. We waited to long to do anything else realistically and there is still a chance he is an imp. Better than 0% chance.

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Hmmmm. Scoop switches to tru1cy late. He could've plausibly kept riding Vorret and used that as credibility if a wolf. Although if we missed the lynch, might he be risking being seen as unhelpful / obstructionist? Although Unagi would've been a fine fall guy for that.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:59 am

bb2112 wrote:Day 2 Votes - Final:
1. El Guapo ------> Moliere, Holman, Tru1cy
2. Remus West --> Zarathud, Vorret, Zarathud, Tru1cy
3. Chaosraven ---> Tru1cy
4. Lassr -----------> RMC, Zarathud
5. Moliere --------> Vorret, Unagi
6. Archinerd -----> Punisher, Unagi, Tru1cy, Unagi
7. Scoop20906 ---> Vorret, Tru1cy
8. RMC ------------> Zarathud, RMC
9. Isgrimnur ------> Holman, Vorret
10. PLW -----------> El Guapo Zarathud
11. Punisher ------> Vorret
12. Holman -------> Unagi, Tru1cy
13. Vorret ---------> Punisher, Scoop20906, Tru1cy
14. Unagi ----------> Scoop20906, Zarathud, Tru1cy, Vorret, RMC, Remus West, Tru1cy
15. Zarathud ------> Moliere, Unagi, Tru1cy
16. Tru1cy ---------> Punisher, Vorret

Votes:
9 Tru1cy - El Guapo, Zarathud, Vorret, Chaosraven, Remus West, RMC, Scoop20906, Unagi, Holman
3 Vorret - Punisher, Isgrimnur, Tru1cy
2 Zarathud - Lassr, PLW
2 Unagi - Moliere, Archinerd


9 Votes Needed

Dead:
Day 1 - Newcastle -------> Rebel
Night 1 - Grundbegriff --> Rebel

Deadline:
Final Day 2 vote.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:47 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
bb2112 wrote:Day 1 Votes:
Votes:
10 Newcastle - Remus West, Lassr, Chaosraven, Zarathud, RMC, Vorret, Moliere, Punisher, El Guapo, Unagi

Day 2 Votes - Final:
Votes:
9 Tru1cy - El Guapo, Zarathud, Vorret, Chaosraven, Remus West, RMC, Scoop20906, Unagi, Holman
My colorization. Seven of the votes in both daytime lynches were the same crew.
Isgrimnur mirroring PLW's "common crew voting" based theory of voting.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 3

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:51 pm

Unagi wrote:First of all, I can understand the new players gut-reactions to me on some level, but I really don't understand and haven't heard much articulated as to why I'm being voted for. But whatever - I get it. Boogey man.

Zarathud claims he's said 'why' numerous times - but he hasn't. He started with some charge that Moliere and I were defending each other. I asked, and he never showed me where I had defended Moliere and Moliere also declared he wasn't protecting me. Yet Zarathud is only more convinced somehow that Unagi is a wolf. I'm at odds with what to make of it. Feels fake - and yet I can't really read him well and he's new (to me, at least, here) so I don't know what he's just gotten too focused on.

Archinerd, has been dying to get my lynched since the start. No real big reason. Recently says I'm dangerous.... Ok...? Damn - I am the one that proposed we didn't even lynch anyone after the tru1cy 'run up'... How on earth does that help the wolves? I'm the only player here that was willing to discuss that option. Oh, actually I'm guessing that's what you are saying is dangerous?

PLW, was NOT on my radar before. And in a re-read and his recent stuff - suddenly is.

El Guapo.... was on my list but has since sorta fallen off.

Lassr has mostly seemed good to me (but while Lassr does have my number, I don't really have his)

I'm TORN on Remus. He seems good good good, but I can't get over my original read on him. Cautiously leaning good with him... but not sure.

RMC - feeling pretty evil

Scoop - feeling kinda evil

Isgrimnur - seems evil, but I've fallen for 'disinterested civilian isgrimnur who doesn't play' before and annoyed to think that's what I'm seeing again.


Holman. trouble shaking my first read on him. I've shaken it, and then he's gone and renewed it. I just can't tell if he's overloading my radar or it's legit

Punisher - I think he's just new... could be wrong.

CR, no clue - but he helped with the MM thing that I got started so I am going to just lean toward Good there.

I'm a rebel and you guys shouldn't be voting for me.

Regarding MY Votes.
Day 1 - I didn't particularly like the Newcastle vote. I didn't particularly care either. The deadline was approaching, Newcastle had his fit - and I helped move the game forward. I briefly mused that he may indeed be evil, but surmised he also likely wasn't. I'll just say the evidence shows that there were PLENTY other players I was wanting to test that day. To count me 'on the vote' for Newcastle is misleading, except in the sense where that one guy wants to be on all the votes, in the event it's a Jedi...
Day 2 - Meh, I had been watching tru1cy play in the wings and saw El Guapo's vote and jumped on it as a chance to at least get a quiet player (one we will know nothing more of at the end of the game) out of the end-game. As that vote count got up in number - tru1cy's reaction read pretty 'Real' to me, and yeah - I didn't like the idea of lynching another Rebel, as I had felt tru1cy was likely good at that point. I played with the idea of us not lynching anyone (got heat for that) - and then toyed with the idea of getting a last minute train on someone like RMC. (a quiet player we are learning nothing about). I apologize if that offended everyone's senses.... I actually (judging by the speed of the tru1cy vote up) thought I could maybe get people to do it. I ended up helping put tru1cy over cause it seemed like most people would be mostly pissed if we didn't lynch someone.

Really - I am being charged with nearly not letting the village kill off one of their villagers. WTF people.

Holman wanted me strung out for this helpful message:
Unagi wrote:Also, I would like to strongly suggest that Mon Mothma uses here power sooner than later. I think thwarting an early night kill and giving people a little data early is Key here, and she should have used her power last night.
I guess I would like to test either RMC, Scoop, PLW or Holman (top 4 maybe?)
Next tier would go: Isgrimnur, Archinerd, Zarathud, Remus
Last would be: Lassr, Punisher, El Guapo, CR
Mainly a reminder that Unagi's analysis is solid in these games. Also because where he was on Isgrimnur is kind of where I've been on Isgrimnur for the past day or so (game time). Seems evil, BUT could also be "disinterested civilian who doesn't play".

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:54 pm

Which will backfire in the next game I show any engagement in, regardless of role, as I'll be anticipated as being a special by both sides.

Regardless, with apologies to Unagi, disengaged civilian is the flavor of the day.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 3

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:55 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Unagi wrote:First of all, I can understand the new players gut-reactions to me on some level, but I really don't understand and haven't heard much articulated as to why I'm being voted for. But whatever - I get it. Boogey man.

Zarathud claims he's said 'why' numerous times - but he hasn't. He started with some charge that Moliere and I were defending each other. I asked, and he never showed me where I had defended Moliere and Moliere also declared he wasn't protecting me. Yet Zarathud is only more convinced somehow that Unagi is a wolf. I'm at odds with what to make of it. Feels fake - and yet I can't really read him well and he's new (to me, at least, here) so I don't know what he's just gotten too focused on.
While I don't totally follow his logic on his vote for Unagi, I'm convinced he is convinced he has something. Everybody has their angle. Still, usually when somebody pushes hard for a vote I get the heebeejeebees. I could vote for zarathud today. Lean towards evil.
Unagi wrote: Archinerd, has been dying to get my lynched since the start. No real big reason. Recently says I'm dangerous.... Ok...? Damn - I am the one that proposed we didn't even lynch anyone after the tru1cy 'run up'... How on earth does that help the wolves? I'm the only player here that was willing to discuss that option. Oh, actually I'm guessing that's what you are saying is dangerous?
I've not read on Archinerd. He doesn't stand out. I could also call him "Crewmen 12". Lean towards good.
Unagi wrote: PLW, was NOT on my radar before. And in a re-read and his recent stuff - suddenly is.
Another background character and I'm not sure what you are seeing here. Nothing screams Imp to me other than he seems maybe ... careful? Lean towards good.
Unagi wrote: El Guapo.... was on my list but has since sorta fallen off.
Our first real disagreement. El Guapo has risen on my threat list mainly because he confused me about the MM rulez. Not sure if this was intentional or maybe he really misunderstood them. Maybe enough to order the kill on Moliere? Lean towards evil
Unagi wrote: Lassr has mostly seemed good to me (but while Lassr does have my number, I don't really have his)
I tend to agree. Lassr has played a good middle game. Nothing stands out and his comments have remained appropriate. Lean towards good.
Unagi wrote: I'm TORN on Remus. He seems good good good, but I can't get over my original read on him. Cautiously leaning good with him... but not sure.
Remus is active and correcting people (me in particular it seems). At times I felt like he is trying to control the narative. Leans towards good.
Unagi wrote: RMC - feeling pretty evil
RMC is the devil. If you are unsure then lean towards evil. Thinking about voting for him now even. But lets get to the end of this.
Unagi wrote: Scoop - feeling kinda evil
I don't know. I'm feeling kind of good. In fact, completely good. Voting for me hurts our chances of winning but its also won't out a special. You make the call.
Unagi wrote: Isgrimnur - seems evil, but I've fallen for 'disinterested civilian isgrimnur who doesn't play' before and annoyed to think that's what I'm seeing again.
Early on Issy really trigger my wolf radar. That really hasn't changed by would Issy make a rulez mistake? No. Leaning towards good (for now).
Unagi wrote: Holman. trouble shaking my first read on him. I've shaken it, and then he's gone and renewed it. I just can't tell if he's overloading my radar or it's legit
Rambling posts. Very active. But capable of making the MM mistake too. For now, Lean towards good.
Unagi wrote: Punisher - I think he's just new... could be wrong.
Punisher has looked coached the entire game. THE ENTIRE GAME. But, he is having so much fun with the theme I hate to push for a vote for him. I guess I'm turning into an OOWW softie. Lean towards evil tho. He fits the profile this game.
Unagi wrote: CR, no clue - but he helped with the MM thing that I got started so I am going to just lean toward Good there.
No alarm bells for CR. He just wants to kill everyone. Lean towards good.
Unagi wrote: I'm a rebel and you guys shouldn't be voting for me.
I want to trust you but you've given me pause. At times this game you haven't acted like yourself. The tru1cy vote is sticking in my craw. What was up with that? But for now, lean towards good.

I guess I need to vote now. I was wrong about vorret. Lets see if I am right about ...

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I can also switch to RMC in a heartbeat. So, Unagi, care to join my bandwagon?
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 3

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:56 pm

PLW wrote:Given my analysis, above, I'd say my top-3 are

1. El Guapo
2. Unagi
3. Zarathud
Naturally the wolves picked Zarathud as their go to "throw shade on for possible credibility later", which makes sense given the Boba Fett thing.

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 3

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:57 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Lassr
Punisher
Scoop20906

Each was on one kill vote, but not the other. I figure there's a baddie in there, as well as a couple in the doubles. My odds are probably better in this group than the other at this point.
Isgrimnur, any chance you could add to your thinking here? Why would being on one kill but not the other be important?

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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 8

Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:01 pm

Similar reason I pegged on you after Day 4. Joruus wants to be on all the votes. If he votes on an Imp or an unidentified Jedi, he gets a scan. Being on ALL the kill votes raises suspicion. Being on some of them offers cover that they weren't just offing people left and right for the benefit of it.
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 3

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:03 pm

Hmmm. Day 3, deadline approaching.

bb2112 wrote:Day 3 Votes:
1. El Guapo ------>
2. Remus West -->
3. Chaosraven --->
4. Lassr -----------> Zarathud
5. Moliere --------> Unagi
6. Archinerd -----> Unagi
7. Scoop20906 ---> El Guapo
8. RMC ------------> Unagi
9. Isgrimnur ------>
10. PLW -----------> El Guapo
11. Punisher ------>
12. Holman -------> Unagi
13. Unagi ----------> RMC, Zarathud
14. Zarathud ------> Unagi

Votes:
5 Unagi - Archinerd, Zarathud, Moliere, RMC, Holman
3 El Guapo - PLW, Scoop20906, Remus West
2 Zarathud - Lassr, Unagi


8 Votes Needed

Dead:
Day 1 - Newcastle -------> Stabbed
Night 1 - Grundbegriff --> Strangled
Day 2 - Tru1cy -----------> Bashed
Night 2 - Vorret ----------> Sacrificed

Deadline:
Deadline: Monday, March 20th, 8PM EDT
Isgrimnur wrote:Since we're still giving the new guy a pass, I'll go with  Zarathud 
 
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Re: Star Wars - The Empire's Challenge - Day 3

Post by El Guapo » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:04 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote:Still torn between El Guapo and Zarathud and now they are both at 2 votes..........hmmmmm.........

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I think I can learn the most from this one.
Well, my 'A' threat list has grown a bit: El Guapo, Issy, RMC, and Unagi.

I added Unagi there now because he has played hot potato with this vote and seemed to be trying to build a case against zarathud. I'm not sure what is going on between those two right now but its not doing Unagi any favors.

But I agree with Remus that testing El Guapo would be an interesting test right now. Like I said before I could switch to a RMC vote in heart beat (in fact I was considering it until Unagi bolted again).

And if we get deadlocked again on Monday I will say that since I've already outted myself as the Cliff Clavin if star wars that I'm a safe target so we don't end up with a dead lock.
Scoop shows up. List includes one known wolf (RMC), and not the wolves favored fall guy (Zarathud).

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