Starship R. Scott III - Guards Win!

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:50 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:
Vorret wrote:This is a beacon of information , this games needs more attention than I expected!!
That looks like a lie.

Vorret

What?

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:55 pm

Vorret wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:
Vorret wrote:This is a beacon of information , this games needs more attention than I expected!!
That looks like a lie.

Vorret

What?

It looks deceptive.

Did you truly expect a four-faction game with unique roles and rules to not require much attention?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:13 pm

Holman wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
****** CICP COMMUNICATIONS ******

SENDER: MOTHER

MESSAGE BEGINS....

Medical Report:
Name: Holman
Gender: Male
Weight: 175 lbs
Height: 5'9''
Medical Condition: Healthy
Occupation: Marine Guard

MESSAGE ENDS.....

==============================

Not complaining here, but I was under the impression that the scan wouldn't reveal specific role among humans.

The Rules wrote:The Computer Hacker can decrypt a single cryo pod medical report from main computer once per Course Correction. The medical report will reveal if that player is a human, host human, symbiont or alien. The decrypted medical report will be sent to CICP Communications for everyone to read.

Sorry, I thought I updated that. Role is announced.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:17 pm

Day 1 Votes:
Lagom Lite ----> Vorret
chaosraven ---->
Holman -------->
bb2112 -------->
Archinerd ----->
bb2112 -------->
Isgrimnur ----->
Grundbegriff ->
El Guapo ------>
Vorret --------->
tru1cy --------->

Votes:
Vorret (1) - Lagom Lite

Voting Majority is 6.

No deadline (yet).

If anyone would like to join the R Scott III spoiler slack channel for real time discussion of the game, send me a PM. Also, as players are eliminated they will be sent a PM inviting them to join.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:23 pm

With a hiss of ozone, Remus West's cryo pod unlocks and opens up.

"We get the warhead and we hold the world ransom for... ONE MILLION DOLLARS!"

"Oops, wrong game."

Remus is no longer cryo locked and has rejoined the game.

Day 1 Votes:
Lagom Lite ----> Vorret
chaosraven ---->
Holman -------->
Remus West -->
bb2112 -------->
Archinerd ----->
bb2112 -------->
Isgrimnur ----->
Grundbegriff ->
El Guapo ------>
Vorret --------->
tru1cy --------->

Votes:
Vorret (1) - Lagom Lite

Voting Majority is 7.

No deadline (yet).

If anyone would like to join the R Scott III spoiler slack channel for real time discussion of the game, send me a PM. Also, as players are eliminated they will be sent a PM inviting them to join.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:18 pm

So, Remus, who should Holman shoot?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:12 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Holman wrote:Scoop, if the Alien misses the deadline, would no text message be sent, or would we get a random garble like we just saw (akin to the way the hacker gets his scan randomized if he doesn't put in a pick)?
If the alien misses the deadline, no tweet will be sent.

Scoop20906 wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:Scoop, can the Alien organism send a tweet even while locked down in its cryopod?
No.

Scoop20906 wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:Scoop, is the Hacker is locked down by the symbiont during the course correction, does the Hacker still scan?
No.
Lagom Lite wrote:Scoop, if the Alien is locked down by the symbiont during the course correction, does the Alien still kill/convert?
No.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:14 pm

Cryo Pod locked down:
009

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:14 pm

Night Sequence of Resolution:
Symbiont order is processed.
Alien's order is processed.
Computer Hacker's medical report is decrypted.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:16 pm

ok, so we know:

Remus West is NOT the Alien.
(a tweet came thru)
Remus West is NOT the Hacker.
(a scan came thru)

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:18 pm

The Alien Organism has to ability to kill or implant an alien egg in human beings turning them into hosts. The alien player only has two eggs. However, the process is time consuming and can only be performed during the course correction when the humans are incapacitated in their cryo pods. The alien organism can not attack players in a locked down cryo pod.

What was the decision on Alien versus Locked pod?
Is it a "protection" or Invalid Target?

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:03 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:So, Remus, who should Holman shoot?

Ice cubes can't talk.

But I think we should send bb2112 out the airlock. He gets two votes!

Scoop20906 wrote:Day 1 Votes:
Lagom Lite ----> Vorret
chaosraven ---->
Holman -------->
bb2112 -------->
Archinerd ----->
bb2112 -------->
Isgrimnur ----->
Grundbegriff ->
El Guapo ------>
Vorret --------->
tru1cy --------->

Votes:
Vorret (1) - Lagom Lite

Voting Majority is 6.

No deadline (yet).

If anyone would like to join the R Scott III spoiler slack channel for real time discussion of the game, send me a PM. Also, as players are eliminated they will be sent a PM inviting them to join.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:13 pm

Remus is no longer cryo locked and has rejoined the game.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:14 pm

Archinerd wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:So, Remus, who should Holman shoot?
Ice cubes can't talk.

No, but they probably read as well as you do.

Scoop20906 wrote:Remus is no longer cryo locked and has rejoined the game.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:28 pm

Okay, okay, I get it guys. Sheesh.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:36 pm

PSSSSSSST

Remus is no longer cryo locked and has rejoined the game.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:40 pm

Has anyone checked on Remus?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:59 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Has anyone checked on Remus?

Archicold did.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:07 pm

I wish I had two votes.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:30 am

Isgrimnur wrote:So, Remus, who should Holman shoot?

He could always shoot Lagom as a welcome back gesture then lynch vorret as an apology gesture if shooting Lagom turns out to be the wrong play.

More honestly, I still haven't even read the rules because the first thing that happened was I got locked down. I'll read the rules today at some point and try and decide what to do after that.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:59 am

Holman wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:
Holman wrote:I don't know what I've been told
Nice gun you've got there. Please don't wave it around like that.
What do you mean here, LL?

Hey, LL, I'm still curious about what you meant by "I don't know what I've been told."

I'm not asking suspiciously or snarkily. I'm trying to learn what I might have missed. (New game format for me and all that.)

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:11 am

So since we know that Remus wasn't the alien, that means that the alien planted a seed since there was no night kill, right? Or that the alien tried to impregnate Remus.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:57 am

El Guapo wrote:Or that the alien tried to impregnate Remus.

I mean, who wouldn't?

Any one of us could be an egg carrier now (except me, since the scan showed I wasn't a host).

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:59 am

Holman wrote:
Holman wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:
Holman wrote:I don't know what I've been told
Nice gun you've got there. Please don't wave it around like that.
What do you mean here, LL?
Hey, LL, I'm still curious about what you meant by "I don't know what I've been told."

I'm not asking suspiciously or snarkily. I'm trying to learn what I might have missed. (New game format for me and all that.)

I got it slightly wrong, it's supposed to be I don't know but I've been told

I don't know, but it's been said
Air Force wings are made of lead

I don't know, but I've been told
Navy wings are made of gold

He-ey Ar-rmy
Ba-ack packing Ar-my
Put on your packs and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

He-ey Air Force
Lo-ow flying Air Force
Get in your planes and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

He-ey Coast Guard
Pud-dle pirate Coast Guard
Get in your boats and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

He-ey Marines
bullet-sponge marine corps
Pick up your rifles and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

Full Metal Jacket

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:03 am

Holman wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Or that the alien tried to impregnate Remus.
I mean, who wouldn't?

Any one of us could be an egg carrier now (except me, since the scan showed I wasn't a host).

Remus could also not be a carrier if I interpret the rules right.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:09 am

Lagom Lite wrote:
Holman wrote:
Holman wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:
Holman wrote:I don't know what I've been told
Nice gun you've got there. Please don't wave it around like that.
What do you mean here, LL?
Hey, LL, I'm still curious about what you meant by "I don't know what I've been told."

I'm not asking suspiciously or snarkily. I'm trying to learn what I might have missed. (New game format for me and all that.)
I got it slightly wrong, it's supposed to be I don't know but I've been told

I don't know, but it's been said
Air Force wings are made of lead

I don't know, but I've been told
Navy wings are made of gold

He-ey Ar-rmy
Ba-ack packing Ar-my
Put on your packs and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

He-ey Air Force
Lo-ow flying Air Force
Get in your planes and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

He-ey Coast Guard
Pud-dle pirate Coast Guard
Get in your boats and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

He-ey Marines
bullet-sponge marine corps
Pick up your rifles and follow me
I'm in the U.S. Navy

Full Metal Jacket

I thought you were telling me I had botched something.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:10 am

Lagom Lite wrote:
Holman wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Or that the alien tried to impregnate Remus.
I mean, who wouldn't?

Any one of us could be an egg carrier now (except me, since the scan showed I wasn't a host).
Remus could also not be a carrier if I interpret the rules right.

You're right.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:29 pm

SO...

Holman, Marine Human, Not Infected Night1
Remus, not Alien, Not Infected Night 1, Pod 009

----------------------------

Hee hee hee

YES! SHOOT THE SMOOTH TALKING DEVIL!

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:00 pm

Maybe the alien locked himself as a ruse

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:01 pm

And maybe you should read the rules.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:16 am

Vorret wrote:Maybe the alien locked himself as a ruse

More deception.

Vorret isn't this clueless...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:44 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Unagi wrote:I'll play
(On spring break until monday)
Sorry, looks like tru1cy grabbed the last spot. Next time.

Aww. Bummer.
Probably for the best.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:30 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Holman wrote:So the marines (between them) get one kill a day?

Seems like there will be a race to post the kill order every morning.
Remember they can only use their fire gun one time the whole game.

Damn gun control laws have gotten out of hand in the dystopian future.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:35 am

We have the usual first-day kill problem, but it's doubled. We've got to pick a lynch, but I'm also likely to be killed by the alien tonight, so my gun will be lost unless I fire it today.

We don't really have a protector, do we? The symbiont could lock me down, but I can't see why he would want to keep a marine alive.

How do we decide, people? Do we take our chances with *two* random Day One kills?

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:12 am

Holman wrote:We have the usual first-day kill problem, but it's doubled. We've got to pick a lynch, but I'm also likely to be killed by the alien tonight, so my gun will be lost unless I fire it today.

We don't really have a protector, do we? The symbiont could lock me down, but I can't see why he would want to keep a marine alive.

How do we decide, people? Do we take our chances with *two* random Day One kills?

Looking over the rules, in order to win, this is going to be a game of mass carnage. We only have 6 days, 12 people, and unless we get majorly lucky, there will be 1 Alien and 2 infected (1 infected already). The infected will not even know they are infected so it is not like we can look for some kind of potential mistake in their posts. Therefore locating and killing the infected is going to be pure luck.

All this being said, I agree with Holman's assessment, he should kill someone before the Alien kills him and takes away his ability. This being day 1, and the fact that we will never know who the infected is, pull a name out of a hat and announce it (we don't want to kill our hacker). The only person I would not shoot is RW today. However tomorrow he could be infected, so he is fair game then. Once you take your kill shot, then we have to lynch someone.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:18 am

12 Holman Shot
11 Lynch
10 Another infected
10 Day 2

Considering RW and Holman are out of the question for the shot and the lynch, that gives us a 20% shot of hitting either the Alien or the infected day 1.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:27 am

El Guapo wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Holman wrote:So the marines (between them) get one kill a day?

Seems like there will be a race to post the kill order every morning.
Remember they can only use their fire gun one time the whole game.
Damn gun control laws have gotten out of hand in the dystopian future.

Yeah, but there's two of them. Surely they're not sharing one gun between them, as they shouldn't know who each other are Holman doesn't know who the other is.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:30 am

Holman gets a shot and the other marine gets a shot and they can't do it on the same day. That's the way I understand it.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:37 am

bb2112 wrote:
Holman wrote:We have the usual first-day kill problem, but it's doubled. We've got to pick a lynch, but I'm also likely to be killed by the alien tonight, so my gun will be lost unless I fire it today.

We don't really have a protector, do we? The symbiont could lock me down, but I can't see why he would want to keep a marine alive.

How do we decide, people? Do we take our chances with *two* random Day One kills?
Looking over the rules, in order to win, this is going to be a game of mass carnage. We only have 6 days, 12 people, and unless we get majorly lucky, there will be 1 Alien and 2 infected (1 infected already). The infected will not even know they are infected so it is not like we can look for some kind of potential mistake in their posts. Therefore locating and killing the infected is going to be pure luck.

All this being said, I agree with Holman's assessment, he should kill someone before the Alien kills him and takes away his ability. This being day 1, and the fact that we will never know who the infected is, pull a name out of a hat and announce it (we don't want to kill our hacker). The only person I would not shoot is RW today. However tomorrow he could be infected, so he is fair game then. Once you take your kill shot, then we have to lynch someone.

I guess that makes sense, though I'm still figuring out the rules.

More broadly, in terms of the kill shot and the lynch today - our primary goal is to kill the alien and any hosts, right? Then after that, the secondary goal of any of the human sub-factions is to kill members of the other sub-factions (Marine Guards and Engineers want to kill hackers and convicts, and vice versa), right? But as of today, we have no information on who is the alien (or who may be a host), EXCEPT that we know that Remus is not the alien, not a host, and not the hacker (due to the lockdown), and we know that Holman is a guard, and therefore not the hacker, but could also be a host, right?

So for Holman's shot, assuming that there's no reason to not take it today, the target is pretty much anyone who is not Remus or Holman, right? And for the lynch it's anyone other than Remus, and probably not Holman unless there's some reason to think he's the host. Is that about right?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:41 am

El Guapo wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Holman wrote:We have the usual first-day kill problem, but it's doubled. We've got to pick a lynch, but I'm also likely to be killed by the alien tonight, so my gun will be lost unless I fire it today.

We don't really have a protector, do we? The symbiont could lock me down, but I can't see why he would want to keep a marine alive.

How do we decide, people? Do we take our chances with *two* random Day One kills?
Looking over the rules, in order to win, this is going to be a game of mass carnage. We only have 6 days, 12 people, and unless we get majorly lucky, there will be 1 Alien and 2 infected (1 infected already). The infected will not even know they are infected so it is not like we can look for some kind of potential mistake in their posts. Therefore locating and killing the infected is going to be pure luck.

All this being said, I agree with Holman's assessment, he should kill someone before the Alien kills him and takes away his ability. This being day 1, and the fact that we will never know who the infected is, pull a name out of a hat and announce it (we don't want to kill our hacker). The only person I would not shoot is RW today. However tomorrow he could be infected, so he is fair game then. Once you take your kill shot, then we have to lynch someone.
I guess that makes sense, though I'm still figuring out the rules.

More broadly, in terms of the kill shot and the lynch today - our primary goal is to kill the alien and any hosts, right? Then after that, the secondary goal of any of the human sub-factions is to kill members of the other sub-factions (Marine Guards and Engineers want to kill hackers and convicts, and vice versa), right? But as of today, we have no information on who is the alien (or who may be a host), EXCEPT that we know that Remus is not the alien, not a host, and not the hacker (due to the lockdown), and we know that Holman is a guard, and therefore not the hacker, but could also be a host, right?

So for Holman's shot, assuming that there's no reason to not take it today, the target is pretty much anyone who is not Remus or Holman, right? And for the lynch it's anyone other than Remus, and probably not Holman unless there's some reason to think he's the host. Is that about right?

Wait, wait, I had thought that the scan came before the alien, but I think apparently not? Here's the description from the OP:

Course Correction Boilerplate:
Computer Hacker: Which player's cryo pod medical report will you decrypt?
Symbiont: Will you lock down a player's cryo pod?
Alien: Who will you attempt to kill OR who will you attempt to implant an egg into?

All Course Correction Play orders must be in before the hard deadline, or forfeit.

Night Sequence of Resolution:
Symbiont order is processed.
Alien's order is processed.
Computer Hacker's medical report is decrypted.

I was confused because the hacker order comes before the alien order in the boilerplate, but (once I read down) the night sequence shows the alien order coming before the hacker.

SO, we do know (I'm pretty sure) that Holman is not infected. So the shot would be [NOT Remus or Holman] and the lynch would be [NOT Remus or Holman] as well.

Right?

So any reason to vote, or should I just wait around for Holman to shoot someone?