One Night Ultimate Werewolf - Game over

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:05 am

I mean.. look at this :

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:06 am

So I think we might be jumping to conclusion here about who's in the game and who isn't.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:14 am

Well, at least we have cleared up the question of my innocence. Now that we all know I'm a simple villager we can try to find the dastardly ones who seem to have paced around our camp.

Are we going a little over board on this? Aw, nuts, who cares. Lets string somebody(s) up!

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:31 am

Vorret wrote:So I think we might be jumping to conclusion here about who's in the game and who isn't.

This took me a minute.
It's possible we don't even have a Seer isn't it?
It hasn't even been an hour of day yet though, my bet is the Seer is still trying to figure out how the zipper on his sleeping bag works.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:37 am

stessier wrote:Winning
Votes will be tallied and announced. The leading vote total is lynched. In the event of a tie, all tied players are lynched.

Everyone on Team Good wins if at least one Werewolf if lynched - EVEN IF players other than a Werewolf are lynched!
It is theoretically possible that no one will be a Werewolf. In this case, the only way for the Village to win is if no one dies.

Team Evil wins if at least one player was a Werewolf and no Werewolves die.

Team Fluid wins with whichever team they end up on (see specific roles for details).

If the Tanner is in the game, then
If the Tanner dies and no Werewolves die, the Werewolves DO NOT win.

If the Tanner dies and a Werewolf also dies, Team Good wins.

If the Tanner dies and there were no Werewolves, Team Good loses.

Does lynching the Minion count as a WIN condition of 'Lynching a Werewolf'

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:40 am

stessier wrote:Night Activities
Roles are randomly assigned leaving three roles unassigned (Grave A, B and C)

After all roles are received, orders are sent into the Moderator and resolved in the following order:
Werewolves are told who their partner is (if any)

Minion is told who the Werewolves are (if any)

Masons are told who their partner is (if any)

Seer has a Vision

Robber may choose to swap Roles with the Target.

Troublemaker may choose to switch the cards of two other players.

Drunk must choose a Grave to swap Roles with.

Insomniac verifies what Role they have.

If the Troublemaker's Swaps cards and the Drunk is no longer the Drunk - how does that play out when the Drunk is asked to swap roles with a Grave.
(I'm assuming the Troublemaker's swaps are not revealed to the Card Holders)

I don't think I get that.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:40 am

Camp Roster

bb2112 - Checked in - Not Seer
Vorret - Checked in - Not Seer
Holman
Unagi - Checked in - Not Seer
Remus West - Checked in - Not Seer
Archinerd - Checked in - Not Seer
Chaosraven
Scoop20906
Moliere

In Captain Obvious fashion I am going to assume if you checked in you are not the seer.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:45 am

Unagi wrote:
stessier wrote:Winning
Votes will be tallied and announced. The leading vote total is lynched. In the event of a tie, all tied players are lynched.

Everyone on Team Good wins if at least one Werewolf if lynched - EVEN IF players other than a Werewolf are lynched!
It is theoretically possible that no one will be a Werewolf. In this case, the only way for the Village to win is if no one dies.

Team Evil wins if at least one player was a Werewolf and no Werewolves die.

Team Fluid wins with whichever team they end up on (see specific roles for details).

If the Tanner is in the game, then
If the Tanner dies and no Werewolves die, the Werewolves DO NOT win.

If the Tanner dies and a Werewolf also dies, Team Good wins.

If the Tanner dies and there were no Werewolves, Team Good loses.

Does lynching the Minion count as a WIN condition of 'Lynching a Werewolf'

The Minion counts as a Villager for lynching purposes, but wins with the Werewolves. So lynching him does not give the Villagers a win.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:48 am

bb2112 wrote:Camp Roster
bb2112 - Checked in - Not Seer

Vorret - Checked in - Not Seer

Holman

Unagi - Checked in - Not Seer

Remus West - Checked in - Not Seer

Archinerd - Checked in - Not Seer

Chaosraven

Scoop20906

Moliere
In Captain Obvious fashion I am going to assume if you checked in you are not the seer.

That's my thinking too, I can' think of a reason why the Seer would want to hide.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:48 am

Unagi wrote:
stessier wrote:Night Activities
Roles are randomly assigned leaving three roles unassigned (Grave A, B and C)

After all roles are received, orders are sent into the Moderator and resolved in the following order:
Werewolves are told who their partner is (if any)

Minion is told who the Werewolves are (if any)

Masons are told who their partner is (if any)

Seer has a Vision

Robber may choose to swap Roles with the Target.

Troublemaker may choose to switch the cards of two other players.

Drunk must choose a Grave to swap Roles with.

Insomniac verifies what Role they have.

If the Troublemaker's Swaps cards and the Drunk is no longer the Drunk - how does that play out when the Drunk is asked to swap roles with a Grave.
(I'm assuming the Troublemaker's swaps are not revealed to the Card Holders)

I don't think I get that.

That's where you have to fall back to the idea of people sitting around in a circle. During the Night, you carry out the roles you had when everyone closed their eyes. So yes, the Troublemaker could move the Drunk's card, but the Player who went to sleep as the Drunk is the one who is going to open his eyes when told to do so.

Does that make sense?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:00 pm

I think I'm still trying to get my head around this.

The whole game is one lynch vote, right? There is no wolf kill, and there are no deaths other than (a) the victim (or victims if tied) of the lynch and possibly (b) the hunter's chosen target if he is lynched. Is that correct?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:02 pm

That is how I understand it

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:07 pm

Holman wrote:I think I'm still trying to get my head around this.

The whole game is one lynch vote, right? There is no wolf kill, and there are no deaths other than (a) the victim (or victims if tied) of the lynch and possibly (b) the hunter's chosen target if he is lynched. Is that correct?

Yes, that is correct.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:21 pm

Werewolves are told who their partner is (if any) - they will probably not tell us
Minion is told who the Werewolves are (if any) - he will probably not tell us
Masons are told who their partner is (if any) - they who are not appearing in this game
Seer has a Vision - should tell us
Robber may choose to swap Roles with the Target. - should tell us who he swapped with as that person is not a wolf.
Troublemaker may choose to switch the cards of two other players. - should have done so and should tell us who he swapped so they can tell us what the other person now is.
Drunk must choose a Grave to swap Roles with.
Insomniac verifies what Role they have. - should verify to us what he now is.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:22 pm

bb2112 wrote:Camp Roster
bb2112 - Checked in - Not Seer

Vorret - Checked in - Not Seer

Holman

Unagi - Checked in - Not Seer

Remus West - Checked in - Not Seer

Archinerd - Checked in - Not Seer

Chaosraven

Scoop20906

Moliere
In Captain Obvious fashion I am going to assume if you checked in you are not the seer.

Not it!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:59 pm

OK, this game won't take long. I can't think of a reason to wait on this:

I have had back-to-back dumb luck in recent sessions. Last time I shot the Alien on Day One. This time I am the Seer, and I scanned Vorret because of the running joke that we should lynch Vorret.

Well guess what? Vorret is a werewolf.

String him up! I've already voted.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:01 pm

I am not! Why are you lying.

Why is everyone against cute burrowing rodents

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:01 pm

Vorret wrote:We're all special in our own heart

Aren't you just?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:07 pm

Holman wrote:OK, this game won't take long. I can't think of a reason to wait on this:

I have had back-to-back dumb luck in recent sessions. Last time I shot the Alien on Day One. This time I am the Seer, and I scanned Vorret because of the running joke that we should lynch Vorret.

Well guess what? Vorret is a werewolf.

String him up! I've already voted.

Dumb luck for me since you're actually a wolf and I scanned you last night.

Holman

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:26 pm

Well, then, we have our other wolf. It's Vorret and Moliere.

Savor the irony!

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:28 pm

You all lie, ALL OF YOU.

I already said earlier it's probably a big dog and there's no warewolves.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:37 pm

Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?

btw, I'm Insomniac.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:37 pm

Vorret wrote:It's so bright in here.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:39 pm

Holman wrote:
Vorret wrote:It's so bright in here.

Well.. it is, don't you agree?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:54 pm

OK, someone please go through the trouble and figure out why we already have 2 Seer claims.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:55 pm

Unagi wrote:OK, someone please go through the trouble and figure out why we already have 2 Seer claims.

I say they're both lying, it's obvious.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:56 pm

I mean why would someone scan me of all people Holman's claim makes no sense.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:59 pm

Well, from my read of the rules, I am pretty sure only 1 player actually got scans last night - and that would mean that one of them is indeed Lying. So, maybe we just split our Votes on them both, and we are pretty certain to bag a wolf and hence "Win" - am I missing something?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:01 pm

well the insomniac could shed some lights on the whole story.

I just don't want to die because of Moliere and his hate for Canadians.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:02 pm

Unagi wrote:Well, from my read of the rules, I am pretty sure only 1 player actually got scans last night - and that would mean that one of them is indeed Lying. So, maybe we just split our Votes on them both, and we are pretty certain to bag a wolf and hence "Win" - am I missing something?

I recommend killing the Canadian and then killing me.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:03 pm

Unagi wrote:Well, from my read of the rules, I am pretty sure only 1 player actually got scans last night - and that would mean that one of them is indeed Lying. So, maybe we just split our Votes on them both, and we are pretty certain to bag a wolf and hence "Win" - am I missing something?

We can not be certain where their votes are going and thus can not be certain of the tie. Thus your plan doesn't work. Similar to a plan I thought of where we all vote for the player "to our left" and call it good when everyone ties at 1 vote. Won't work.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:10 pm

Moliere wrote:
Unagi wrote:Well, from my read of the rules, I am pretty sure only 1 player actually got scans last night - and that would mean that one of them is indeed Lying. So, maybe we just split our Votes on them both, and we are pretty certain to bag a wolf and hence "Win" - am I missing something?
I recommend killing the Canadian and then killing me.

Like they're gonna fall for that!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:16 pm

So, we have 2 seer scans - and Scoop hasn't even posted yet.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:17 pm

Vorret wrote:
Moliere wrote:
Unagi wrote:Well, from my read of the rules, I am pretty sure only 1 player actually got scans last night - and that would mean that one of them is indeed Lying. So, maybe we just split our Votes on them both, and we are pretty certain to bag a wolf and hence "Win" - am I missing something?
I recommend killing the Canadian and then killing me.
Like they're gonna fall for that!

If they're part of Team Good and not maple loving, furry moose killing wolves they will.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:23 pm

Vorret wrote:I mean why would someone scan me of all people Holman's claim makes no sense.

We had a "lynch Vorret" theme going in the queue for games thread before this one even began. Since this was Day One, you were as good a scan as any.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:25 pm

Oh... right I remember that.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:36 pm

Moliere wrote:
Unagi wrote:Well, from my read of the rules, I am pretty sure only 1 player actually got scans last night - and that would mean that one of them is indeed Lying. So, maybe we just split our Votes on them both, and we are pretty certain to bag a wolf and hence "Win" - am I missing something?
I recommend killing the Canadian and then killing me.

Moliere's play is weird. He first stepped in to accuse me of being a wolf, but he was lying because I am the seer.

Now he's calling for himself to be killed. If he wants to die so badly, he must be the Tanner.

We win if we kill a Wolf. If the Tanner also dies, we still win--but the secret vote makes this difficult because the only way to get two deaths is to engineer a tie. It's going to be hard to make a secret ballot turn out accurately. (My understanding is that if we kill the Tanner but fail to kill a Wolf, *only* the Tanner wins.)

Stick to lynching Vorret and let the Tanner find his own way to Hell.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:41 pm

Holman wrote:Moliere's play is weird. He first stepped in to accuse me of being a wolf, but he was lying because I am the seer.

Moliere, can you confirm? Is Holman the seer? and are you lying?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:56 pm

Holman wrote:We win if we kill a Wolf. If the Tanner also dies, we still win--but the secret vote makes this difficult because the only way to get two deaths is to engineer a tie. It's going to be hard to make a secret ballot turn out accurately. (My understanding is that if we kill the Tanner but fail to kill a Wolf, *only* the Tanner wins.)

With 9 players a tie vote is unlikely. You See too much.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:13 pm

I'm here. Not Seer and I see quite a bit of lying. Not sure how to respond to all this yet. Its like one of our 2 month games rolled up in a few days. A lot to process quickly.