Octopus Overlords

Moliere wrote:Would it help if I claimed wolf?

I don't think it would hurt, go for it.

Archinerd wrote:

Unless Scoop says he is the trouble maker and switched Vorret I don't see how his big reveal is going to change anything.

Archinerd is lying. I am the insomniac. I had it at night and in the morning. No one switched with me. Why is Archinerd lying about his role?

Scoop20906 wrote:

Archinerd wrote:

Unless Scoop says he is the trouble maker and switched Vorret I don't see how his big reveal is going to change anything.

Archinerd is lying. I am the insomniac. I had it at night and in the morning. No one switched with me. Why is Archinerd lying about his role?

Making everyone wait for this reveal makes no sense. Why wouldn't you have said it earlier?

I wanted to see what I could learn from Archinerd's actions. Dude, I caught someone lying and you don't see this as significant?

Wouldn't a wolf lie?


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Scoop20906 wrote:I wanted to see what I could learn from Archinerd's actions. Dude, I caught someone lying and you don't see this as significant?

Wouldn't a wolf lie?

I don't know anything about Archinerd, but I know Vorret is a Wolf and I know you've been weirdly coordinating with him: the Mason thing, hoping for his claim before making a completely unrelated claim of your own, and being generally squirrelly.

You're all going to have really long nose once this game is over

Vorret wrote:You're all going to have really long nose once this game is over

For some reason people are linking me to you.

If you aren't a wolf then let's hear what your role is.

Although right now I am planning on voting for Archinerd.


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I'll give you credit Scoop, that's not what I was expecting.

Instead of a direct approach you went for something more subtle.
I knew you wouldn't come right out and say something that would try and convince us Vorret is not a wolf. Too direct.
I was expecting you to do something to undermine Holman's credibility. This way you redirect attention from Vorret (so far a known wolf) and muddy the waters a bit with a third party (me).

Another option is that you are trying to use me for bait to out a wolf, but that doesn't really make any sense with a known wolf.

I still think Holman is telling the truth and is the Seer.
He scanned Vorret and found wolf.
Scoop is possibly the other wolf or a minion.
I'm not sure who the third member of your team might be but I don't really see how it matters.

Archinerd wrote:I'll give you credit Scoop, that's not what I was expecting.

Instead of a direct approach you went for something more subtle.
I knew you wouldn't come right out and say something that would try and convince us Vorret is not a wolf. Too direct.
I was expecting you to do something to undermine Holman's credibility. This way you redirect attention from Vorret (so far a known wolf) and muddy the waters a bit with a third party (me).

Another option is that you are trying to use me for bait to out a wolf, but that doesn't really make any sense with a known wolf.

I still think Holman is telling the truth and is the Seer.
He scanned Vorret and found wolf.
Scoop is possibly the other wolf or a minion.
I'm not sure who the third member of your team might be but I don't really see how it matters.

So... since you lied about your role and claimed my role I have to assume you were hoping the insomniac was in the grave or that you expected to be discovered and wanted to be outed and draw a vote.

This is why I waited so long to reveal. I was trying to figure out what your game was. I'm still not sure why Archinerd didn't claim villager as revealed pretty early and often (twice).

Well, you've been exposed. Frankly, I have no reason to believe anything you say at this point and you've pretty much earned my vote at the end of the day. I'd like to try and convince others to join the vote but this rulezset is unfamiliar to me. I'd like to hear the villagers opinions.

Archinerd wrote:I'll give you credit Scoop, that's not what I was expecting.

You should have just come clean when I asked you too.

Maybe it wasn't clear above to you Scoop. I did not lie about my role and I don't really see how it's productive for the village for you to try and claim my role.

Right now I see two pairs. vorret/Holman obviously and Scoop/Archinerd also obviously. What I do not see is how those pairs fit together. Currently given the claims and the ruleset I see no reason not to vote Vorret. If he is not a wolf then I end up tipping my hat to Holman for a nice quick claim and play as a wolf. Scoop's play only makes sense if it made any sense at all for Archinerd to lie regarding his role claim. Since that lie makes no sense to me the only thing I have there is that Scoop is trying to get votes away from Vorret. Which leads me back to voting Vorret.

Want to make a claim, vorret? Or should I just cast my vote?

I don't understand why he claimed insomniac either.


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I'm innocent!!

Vorret wrote:I'm innocent!!

Me too!

Remus West wrote:Want to make a claim, vorret?

Vorret wrote:I'm innocent!!

Moliere wrote:Me too!

That's funny.


Pretty sure I am going to place my vote if nobody has anything else here.


Scoop, curious why you (long ago) said that there were 'so many people lying'. Who, beside Archinerd, were you talking about there?

That line made me think you were about to (counter) claim Seer. No?

Vorret wrote:I'm innocent!!

Do you have a reason you are not at least claiming something? Not worth the effort?

Unagi. Put yourself in my shoes. Someone spoofs your role and you aren't sure why. Wouldn't you try to figure out why by giving Archinerd the sense he had pulled it off.

Also, it's obvious we more than one liar right now. That's what I am referring to.

Vorret seems to be a wolf. If we vote to kill him we win right?

That seems to be the safest play but I know Archinerd is lying. What am I supposed to do with that info?


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Countering the Seer would have been a much easier call to make, huh?


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When is the vote deadline?


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Scoop20906 wrote:Unagi. Put yourself in my shoes. Someone spoofs your role and you aren't sure why. Wouldn't you try to figure out why by giving Archinerd the sense he had pulled it off.

The thing is, this entire situation is contrived by you.
All you did was wait until nearly everyone revealed a role (including a likely ID of a wolf) then picked one to call a liar.
Again, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish but I suspect it's meant to be a Distraction.
I'm done with it, if I respond to you I'm only perpetuating it at this point.
This is the last you'll hear from me on this matter.

Lol. OK Archinerd. Well played sir.

Let the record show I did not lie (this game).


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I'll vote Vorret since it seems he is the likely wolf.


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Scoop20906 wrote:When is the vote deadline?

stessier wrote:IT IS DAY.

The sun has come up and wolf prints are noticed around the camp. Accusations fly that it must be a werewolf! Some demand that people be lynched for the good of the camp. What will you do?

Reminder - all game talk occurs in this thread. There is no wolf board.

All votes must be in my inbox by Thursday, April 20th at 11:59:59pm EDT. These are the only official votes and they may be submitted at any time and changed up until the deadline. If a vote is not submitted, the player forfeits the vote. A player may also choose to abstain.

Do people want to make an argument for waiting until Thursday?

I hope we have the votes on Vorret already. Mine's in.

It bothers me no one seems curious about Archinerd giving a fake role.

Seriously I'm not what it means either but if love to here some theories. You can't all be evil.


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Scoop20906 wrote:It bothers me no one seems curious about Archinerd giving a fake role.

Seriously I'm not what it means either but if love to here some theories. You can't all be evil.


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I gave you my theory. It involves you being a bad guy. Otherwise that entire play makes no sense.

Do you have a theory that doesn't involve being wrong?


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Scoop20906 wrote:It bothers me no one seems curious about Archinerd giving a fake role.

Seriously I'm not what it means either but if love to here some theories. You can't all be evil.

Archinerd came out early. You waited and waited and appeared to be trying to coordinate with Wolf Vorret. He wasn't forthcoming, so you picked Archinerd to accuse.

If you were telling the truth, why the long wait? And why did it all depend on hearing from everyone else first?

Maybe you're the second wolf, maybe Archinerd is the second wolf. Maybe you or Archinerd or even Moliere is the Minion. I have no way of knowing, but it doesn't matter because I know Vorret is the first wolf. We should lynch him.

And then we can start worrying about who's a Cylon!

Unagi wrote:

Vorret wrote:I'm innocent!!

Do you have a reason you are not at least claiming something? Not worth the effort?

I said people are lying but nobody cares

Vorret why won't you tell us your role? Only reason I can think is because you are a wolf. I guess it will be interesting to find out why Archinerd lied.

My vote is in.


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My vote is in.

Scoop20906 wrote:Vorret why won't you tell us your role? Only reason I can think is because you are a wolf. I guess it will be interesting to find out why Archinerd lied.

My vote is in.


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SAD!

Jeez if you have a different theory then NOW is the time.


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Because I've been asked a few times - the Vote Now portion mentioned below happens in the game thread and has to be unanimous. So if the group decides it doesn't want to wait until Thursday night, this is the mechanism to remedy that.

stessier wrote:Voting

• Voting occurs at the expiration of the time limit.
• All votes are secret and the only official votes are those submitted to the Moderator.
• Votes can be submitted to the Mod at any time and can be changed up until the deadline.
• Any vote not received by the deadline is forfeit.
• If the group deems there is no need for further conversation and can declare unanimously that it is time to vote, the vote can be held early. To trigger this event,
  use  Vote Now 
   
  

Since no one is willing to consider that I'm telling the truth.

VOTE NOW


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I think we're expected to use the tags?

 Vote Now 
 

My vote is in.

 Vote Now 
 

Scoop20906 wrote:Since no one is willing to consider that I'm telling the truth.

Do you consider that everyone else is telling the truth? Why should we believe you? Why should anyone believe me? Why should anyone believe Holman?