Octopus Overlords

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 8:59 pm**

If all the Bad Cylons are eliminated and the traitors equal or exceed the number of good players remaining then the traitors win. If they do not have the numbers then they just blend back into the crowd and it is a good guy win with the traitors as part of the good guys. If Zarek dies the traitors can no longer recruit. They are still a team for the remainder of the game if they survive that long. Only Zarek would be considered a loser if he dies.

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1 Unagi---------- (claims Apollo)(Cylon?)
2 Holman-------- (claims citizen/traitor)
3 Chaosraven--- Felix Gaeta
4 tru1cy---------- (proclaimed citizen/traitor by Holman)
5 Newcastle----- unknown (Anders?)
6 Stessier-------- (Cylon?)

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If stessier is the last, it's 3 Nontraitors to 2 Traitors.
Sadly, if stessier and Unagi are both Cylons, the Traitors will win.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:08 pm**

There are 2 traitors (me and Tru1cy) and either 1 or 2 (most likely 2) Cylons remaining. While it might be possible for the traitors to equal the surviving Goods in the end, I decided to use what I knew to beat the Cylons instead.

I agree that it's possible Stessier is Anders rather than a Cylon. But I think the most likely Cylons are Stessier and Unagi.

El Guapo wrote:Basically, if Unagi is innocent and Vorret is guilty, we're probably still going to wind up lynching Unagi one way or another, right? Either we lynch him today (and then Vorret tomorrow), or we lynch Vorret, the wolves quite possibly leave Unagi alone, then we probably wind up lynching him tomorrow.

In Memorium.

Unagi

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:09 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:Presumably, El Guapo tried to recruited stessier on either

On Night 2 the traitor team was still only ElG and me.
On Night 3 it was the same.

LASSR

what happens when Zarek tries to recruit the player killed the same night?
Does the player join the traitors then die or does it fail?

Hmmm.

Presumably it happens, based on Holman stating tru1cy recruited prior to El Gs death the same night, yes?

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:13 pm**

Seriously - not sure how to appeal to you here Holman, but you are wrong. Frustrating as all hell.

El Guapo was HAPPY to lynch me eventually, I assume because he was happy to also kill off the specials. Don't ride that.

Newcastle, I can't imagine you'll change - so. yeah - whatever.

stessier

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:14 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:
LASSR

what happens when Zarek tries to recruit the player killed the same night?
Does the player join the traitors then die or does it fail?

he joins then dies.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:15 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:LASSR

If a block were to used by Boomer versus my 3pack of names, what would the result be?
No info? Only a Scan of the other 2?

Does the Fake work against my 3pack Scan?

If target of Felix scan is blocked, Felix would get two scans and a failed scan.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 pm**

Holman wrote:There are 2 traitors (me and Tru1cy) and either 1 or 2 (most likely 2) Cylons remaining. While it might be possible for the traitors to equal the surviving Goods in the end, I decided to use what I knew to beat the Cylons instead.

Horseshit.

You are trying to extend the game to win as traitors.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:17 pm**

Lassr wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:
LASSR

what happens when Zarek tries to recruit the player killed the same night?
Does the player join the traitors then die or does it fail?
he joins then dies.

Does anyone on the Traitors know?
Does Zarek know it worked/does the name appear on the roster at all?

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:18 pm**

Lassr wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:LASSR

If a block were to used by Boomer versus my 3pack of names, what would the result be?
No info? Only a Scan of the other 2?

Does the Fake work against my 3pack Scan?
If target of Felix scan is blocked, Felix would get two scans and a failed scan.

Ok, so the old joke about the Logicians minus the missing.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:19 pm**

Unagi wrote:Seriously - not sure how to appeal to you here Holman, but you are wrong. Frustrating as all hell.

El Guapo was HAPPY to lynch me eventually, I assume because he was happy to also kill off the specials. Don't ride that.

Newcastle, I can't imagine you'll change - so. yeah - whatever.

stessier

Ok that's unexpected.

Logically, if stessier and Unagi are partners, and stessier result of Cylon does NOT end the game, Unagi is revealed as Second Cylon.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:36 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:
LASSR

what happens when Zarek tries to recruit the player killed the same night?
Does the player join the traitors then die or does it fail?
he joins then dies.
Does anyone on the Traitors know?
Does Zarek know it worked/does the name appear on the roster at all?

Zarek knows he successfully recruited but the roster the next day would be absent the dead player so other traitor would not know.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:38 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:LASSR

If a block were to used by Boomer versus my 3pack of names, what would the result be?
No info? Only a Scan of the other 2?

Does the Fake work against my 3pack Scan?
If target of Felix scan is blocked, Felix would get two scans and a failed scan.
Ok, so the old joke about the Logicians minus the missing.

Just to be more clear he would get a yes or no based on the two players and a block. He would not know which player was blocked.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 9:41 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:
Holman wrote:There are 2 traitors (me and Tru1cy) and either 1 or 2 (most likely 2) Cylons remaining. While it might be possible for the traitors to equal the surviving Goods in the end, I decided to use what I knew to beat the Cylons instead.
Horseshit.

You are trying to extend the game to win as traitors.

No, really not. I'm not good enough to win against two teams. I'm happy to win with one.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:06 pm**

I'm anders.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:08 pm**

BOOYAH

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:10 pm**

Ya know, i could ride w/ a stessier or unagi vote.

I would love a unagi vote, because well...ya know...

I find myself believing CR actually.

If stessier is indeed a cylon, would explain scoops blow up.

If unagi and stessier are indeed cylons, then i think i owe Vorret a big fat apology.

We need truicy to pipe in here.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:15 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:
Unagi wrote:Seriously - not sure how to appeal to you here Holman, but you are wrong. Frustrating as all hell.

El Guapo was HAPPY to lynch me eventually, I assume because he was happy to also kill off the specials. Don't ride that.

Newcastle, I can't imagine you'll change - so. yeah - whatever.

stessier

Ok that's unexpected.

Logically, if stessier and Unagi are partners, and stessier result of Cylon does NOT end the game, Unagi is revealed as Second Cylon.

Not following. Something's missing, i see where your going...but...

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:20 pm**

It points to more of the stessier as last Cylon.
If it was stessier and Unagi, to have stessier die and the game NOT END points to Unagi as his partner.

So either Unagi is Apollo and stessier is the last Cylon
or
Unagi is giving up.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:22 pm**

Unagi wrote:Seriously - not sure how to appeal to you here Holman, but you are wrong. Frustrating as all hell.

El Guapo was HAPPY to lynch me eventually, I assume because he was happy to also kill off the specials. Don't ride that.

Newcastle, I can't imagine you'll change - so. yeah - whatever.

stessier

Ok as Anders i got a super secret power....got real evidence on unagi here....

Spoiler:

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:24 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:It points to more of the stessier as last Cylon.
If it was stessier and Unagi, to have stessier die and the game NOT END points to Unagi as his partner.

So either Unagi is Apollo and stessier is the last Cylon
or
Unagi is giving up.

gotcha...sorry was a wee dense there.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:27 pm**

Chaosraven wrote:It points to more of the stessier as last Cylon.
If it was stessier and Unagi, to have stessier die and the game NOT END points to Unagi as his partner.

So either Unagi is Apollo and stessier is the last Cylon
or
Unagi is giving up.

Street cred...he lynches a "cylon" he might live further.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 pm**

remove unagi

i plan on coming back to this...but i think it would be wise to wait to let truicy pipe up to verify Holman.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:48 pm**

/heads to the grocery store
/buys 29 KG of frozen poutine
/heads to UPS

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:53 pm**

Newcastle wrote:/heads to the grocery store
/buys 29 KG of frozen poutine
/heads to UPS

Don't buy frozen poutine.

Please.

Posted: **Thu May 25, 2017 10:58 pm**

Day 5
Players ------- Voted For:
1 Unagi---------- stessier
2 Holman-------- Unagi
3 Chaosraven---
4 tru1cy----------
5 Newcastle-----
6 Stessier--------
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.
.
Targets ----------- Voters
( Unagi---------- 1 )--- Holman
( Stessier-------- 1 )--- Unagi
( )---
( )---
( )---
( )---
( )---
.
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Grundbegriff-- forever sleep
Punisher------ Punished
Scoop--------- miscalculated
Archinerd'---- Blown
RemusWest-- Gone South
Vorret--------- fed up
El Guapo------ smashed

Majority = 4
Deadline is: June 9th -6PM

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 5:29 am**

Heading off to work.

stessier

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:07 am**

withdraw Unagi

I've been convinced that our wolves were Unagi and Stessier, so seeing Unagi vote on Stessier is concerning. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's a desperate ploy.

But I think we can do it either way. If Stessier comes back human, Unagi is a definite wolf.

Stessier

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:10 am**

Holman wrote:There are 2 traitors (me and Tru1cy) and either 1 or 2 (most likely 2) Cylons remaining. While it might be possible for the traitors to equal the surviving Goods in the end, I decided to use what I knew to beat the Cylons instead.

I agree that it's possible Stessier is Anders rather than a Cylon. But I think the most likely Cylons are Stessier and Unagi.

El Guapo wrote:Basically, if Unagi is innocent and Vorret is guilty, we're probably still going to wind up lynching Unagi one way or another, right? Either we lynch him today (and then Vorret tomorrow), or we lynch Vorret, the wolves quite possibly leave Unagi alone, then we probably wind up lynching him tomorrow.
In Memorium.

Unagi

That's some BS {accuse]Holman[/accuse]

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:11 am**

tru1cy wrote:
Holman wrote:There are 2 traitors (me and Tru1cy) and either 1 or 2 (most likely 2) Cylons remaining. While it might be possible for the traitors to equal the surviving Goods in the end, I decided to use what I knew to beat the Cylons instead.

I agree that it's possible Stessier is Anders rather than a Cylon. But I think the most likely Cylons are Stessier and Unagi.

El Guapo wrote:Basically, if Unagi is innocent and Vorret is guilty, we're probably still going to wind up lynching Unagi one way or another, right? Either we lynch him today (and then Vorret tomorrow), or we lynch Vorret, the wolves quite possibly leave Unagi alone, then we probably wind up lynching him tomorrow.
In Memorium.

Unagi

That's some BS {accuse]Holman[/accuse]

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:11 am**

tru1cy wrote:
tru1cy wrote:
Holman wrote:There are 2 traitors (me and Tru1cy) and either 1 or 2 (most likely 2) Cylons remaining. While it might be possible for the traitors to equal the surviving Goods in the end, I decided to use what I knew to beat the Cylons instead.

I agree that it's possible Stessier is Anders rather than a Cylon. But I think the most likely Cylons are Stessier and Unagi.

El Guapo wrote:Basically, if Unagi is innocent and Vorret is guilty, we're probably still going to wind up lynching Unagi one way or another, right? Either we lynch him today (and then Vorret tomorrow), or we lynch Vorret, the wolves quite possibly leave Unagi alone, then we probably wind up lynching him tomorrow.
In Memorium.

Unagi

That's some BS Holman

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:15 am**

Welcome back tru1cy! Just to clarify, you're saying you are not a Traitor?

I have to re-read, but I don't think Chaos makes any sense as Gaeta.

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:15 am**

withdraw Holman

Someone left the freaking pamphlet in the john.. Team traitor

Stessier

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:17 am**

stessier wrote:Welcome back tru1cy! Just to clarify, you're saying you are not a Traitor?

I have to re-read, but I don't think Chaos makes any sense as Gaeta.

Actually, I've been here reading but seriously missed the pamphlet Zarek left me

I can confirm I'm a patriot who thinks the current leadership is dooming us all

Zarek for President

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:17 am**

Wow, that was fast.

I'm apparently dead. I am nothing.

Someone re-read Chaos. I'm pretty sure he had PLENTY of time after Scoop came out and before he was lynched. And he never used his secret vote even though there was no risk and it would have proved his existence.

If both he and Vorret are actually good guys, this was one of the worst Good Guy games in a very long time.

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:35 am**

Welcome back Tru1cy!

If Stessier comes up human, we'll lynch Unagi. No question about that.

If there's another Cylon after that, it's CR, whose Gaeta claim is revealed to be fake.

We've got this.

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:39 am**

Holman wrote:Welcome back Tru1cy!

If Stessier comes up human, we'll lynch Unagi. No question about that.

If there's another Cylon after that, it's CR, whose Gaeta claim is revealed to be fake.

We've got this.

You dont have that many misses left. Get your head out of your butt for 5 minutes and reread Chaos.

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 6:53 am**

stessier wrote: You dont have that many misses left. Get your head out of your butt for 5 minutes and reread Chaos.

You did this with Punisher as well. When I asked what you thought we would see if we went back and reread him, you dodged the question.

What do you think we'll see if we reread Chaos?

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 7:05 am**

Chaosraven wrote: Of the subset Chaosraven, Holman, stessier the answer was YES.

Who again?

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 7:11 am**

Sheet. Maybe we lost.

That is: if Stessier is human and Vorret was Tigh, we'll come back tomorrow 2v2. Cylons (Unagi and CR) win.

However, if Stessier *or* Vorret was Cylon, we'll come back 3v1. In that case, CR is the likely Cylon.

What am I missing?

Posted: **Fri May 26, 2017 8:25 am**

Holman wrote:Welcome back Tru1cy!

If Stessier comes up human, we'll lynch Unagi. No question about that.

If there's another Cylon after that, it's CR, whose Gaeta claim is revealed to be fake.

We've got this.

I am Apollo.

I admit I took CR's claim at face value - but let's wait here and see what stessier really is. We have room for 1 miss, CR tomorrow if it's a miss. Right?

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