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Re: The Parasite-8/18 start (sign up)

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:39 pm
by El Guapo
It's amazing how long Scoop20906 has held on, now that I think of it. I would have thought for sure that someone would have murdered him and assumed the mantle of Scoop20907 by now.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start (sign up)

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:22 pm
by Zarathud
That's the Scoop we know and love.

But can't trust. :)

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:38 pm
by Lassr
I'll be gone the next two days moving my son to college.

Game should start Friday if all goes smoothly.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:57 am
by Scoop20906
El Guapo wrote:It's amazing how long Scoop20906 has held on, now that I think of it. I would have thought for sure that someone would have murdered him and assumed the mantle of Scoop20907 by now.
His blood and tears nourished for a time.


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Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:31 am
by Lassr
about to leave.

Some roles have been sent out but not all. So careful what you say if you say anything!

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:38 pm
by Newcastle
:binky: :pop: :binky:

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:46 pm
by El Guapo
Image

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:39 pm
by Grundbegriff

Can the Intimidator blocks scans of himself once?
Can the Manipulator force the same victim twice?
Does the Agent's protection reach up to the next day's lynch including or excluding the lynch itself?



Evil can emulate: Town folk, Reporter, Doctor, Protector (possibly thwarted by Soldier), Monitor (if Devioid), PI.
Can prove self: Soldier

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:22 pm
by Chaosraven
:pop:

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:33 pm
by Newcastle
 scoop 90210 
 



ah wait damn it...he didn't sign up...bummer


 el guapo 
 

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:11 pm
by bb2112
Newcastle wrote: scoop 90210 
 



ah wait damn it...he didn't sign up...bummer


 el guapo 
 
I think you meant to say  Moliere 
 


I can see how you could be confused.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:38 am
by Holman
Grundbegriff wrote:
Can the Intimidator blocks scans of himself once?
Can the Manipulator force the same victim twice?
Does the Agent's protection reach up to the next day's lynch including or excluding the lynch itself?



Evil can emulate: Town folk, Reporter, Doctor, Protector (possibly thwarted by Soldier), Monitor (if Devioid), PI.
Can prove self: Soldier
I only recently even looked at the rules, and the Manipulator role seems odd.

If the Manipulator forces me to say "I believe X is Y," does anything stop me from saying "No, I really don't believe X is Y" right after?

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:48 am
by bb2112
Holman wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Can the Intimidator blocks scans of himself once?
Can the Manipulator force the same victim twice?
Does the Agent's protection reach up to the next day's lynch including or excluding the lynch itself?



Evil can emulate: Town folk, Reporter, Doctor, Protector (possibly thwarted by Soldier), Monitor (if Devioid), PI.
Can prove self: Soldier
I only recently even looked at the rules, and the Manipulator role seems odd.

If the Manipulator forces me to say "I believe X is Y," does anything stop me from saying "No, I really don't believe X is Y" right after?
I kind of had the same question. Even if you can't say X is Y right after in so many words, you can put enough contradictions that it is going to make things very awkward. Also, can it be used to force someone to make a vote on someone they wouldn't normally vote for?

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:50 am
by Unagi
Sounds like I should read the rules.

'compelled to' rules are problematic.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:14 pm
by Grundbegriff
Holman wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Can the Intimidator blocks scans of himself once?
Can the Manipulator force the same victim twice?
Does the Agent's protection reach up to the next day's lynch including or excluding the lynch itself?



Evil can emulate: Town folk, Reporter, Doctor, Protector (possibly thwarted by Soldier), Monitor (if Devioid), PI.
Can prove self: Soldier
I only recently even looked at the rules, and the Manipulator role seems odd.

If the Manipulator forces me to say "I believe X is Y," does anything stop me from saying "No, I really don't believe X is Y" right after?
Yeah-- it seems like this would only work if the victim is also silenced for that turn. Even then, exactly two posts from a usually-loquacious participant might make the spell obvious to onlookers.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:21 pm
by Moliere
Grundbegriff wrote:Even then, exactly two posts from Scoop might make the spell obvious to onlookers.
Yes, or Scoop can be tricky and not talk this game. :shifty:

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:24 pm
by Lassr
bb2112 wrote:
Holman wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Can the Intimidator blocks scans of himself once?
Can the Manipulator force the same victim twice?
Does the Agent's protection reach up to the next day's lynch including or excluding the lynch itself?



Evil can emulate: Town folk, Reporter, Doctor, Protector (possibly thwarted by Soldier), Monitor (if Devioid), PI.
Can prove self: Soldier
I only recently even looked at the rules, and the Manipulator role seems odd.

If the Manipulator forces me to say "I believe X is Y," does anything stop me from saying "No, I really don't believe X is Y" right after?
I kind of had the same question. Even if you can't say X is Y right after in so many words, you can put enough contradictions that it is going to make things very awkward. Also, can it be used to force someone to make a vote on someone they wouldn't normally vote for?
You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:25 pm
by Lassr
Grundbegriff wrote:
Can the Intimidator blocks scans of himself once?
Can the Manipulator force the same victim twice?
Does the Agent's protection reach up to the next day's lynch including or excluding the lynch itself?



Evil can emulate: Town folk, Reporter, Doctor, Protector (possibly thwarted by Soldier), Monitor (if Devioid), PI.
Can prove self: Soldier
Yes
Yes
Up to, it does not protect against the lynch.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:31 pm
by Lassr
Couple of more roles to be picked up and we'll be ready.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:51 pm
by Grundbegriff
Lassr wrote:You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.
The only way to implement this is for the Evil to tell the moderator, and for the moderator to tell the victim, since the victim has to post it. And that means that there's never a way to post on behalf of the victim while the victim is away, exploiting absence to leave a false impression steeping (or a bogus vote active until deadline).

That's a stupid power. Let's hope it's in play!

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:00 am
by Punisher
Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.
The only way to implement this is for the Evil to tell the moderator, and for the moderator to tell the victim, since the victim has to post it. And that means that there's never a way to post on behalf of the victim while the victim is away, exploiting absence to leave a false impression steeping (or a bogus vote active until deadline).

That's a stupid power. Let's hope it's in play!

Yeah, can't see that being of any use other than for humor purposes... I'm in!

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:05 am
by Archinerd
Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.
The only way to implement this is for the Evil to tell the moderator, and for the moderator to tell the victim, since the victim has to post it. And that means that there's never a way to post on behalf of the victim while the victim is away, exploiting absence to leave a false impression steeping (or a bogus vote active until deadline).

That's a stupid power. Let's hope it's in play!
I think it's a great idea.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:05 am
by Archinerd
I was told to say that. :|

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:47 am
by RMC
Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.
The only way to implement this is for the Evil to tell the moderator, and for the moderator to tell the victim, since the victim has to post it. And that means that there's never a way to post on behalf of the victim while the victim is away, exploiting absence to leave a false impression steeping (or a bogus vote active until deadline).

That's a stupid power. Let's hope it's in play!
Unless someone is at N-1. Once you cross the number, you are dead. So not really that unless or dumb, huh?

And then the person can say.. The wolves made me do it!!!!

So do we really think it is that stupid now?

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:51 am
by Lassr
Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.
The only way to implement this is for the Evil to tell the moderator, and for the moderator to tell the victim, since the victim has to post it. And that means that there's never a way to post on behalf of the victim while the victim is away, exploiting absence to leave a false impression steeping (or a bogus vote active until deadline).

That's a stupid power. Let's hope it's in play!

that is true. They can avoid the power by not reading any PM I send and not posting in the game. Not posting in the game can lead to their death by silence though. It would really be NOT cool also. It is a rather weak power except in one circumstance.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:52 am
by Lassr
one more role to pick up.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:27 am
by bb2112
RMC wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:You can make them say anything, even vote. And yes they can contradict it or withdraw the vote immediately afterwards.
The only way to implement this is for the Evil to tell the moderator, and for the moderator to tell the victim, since the victim has to post it. And that means that there's never a way to post on behalf of the victim while the victim is away, exploiting absence to leave a false impression steeping (or a bogus vote active until deadline).

That's a stupid power. Let's hope it's in play!
Unless someone is at N-1. Once you cross the number, you are dead. So not really that unless or dumb, huh?

And then the person can say.. The wolves made me do it!!!!

So do we really think it is that stupid now?
Yeah, the only real power this has is if we get to N-1 and it can push someone over the edge. Or when it gets to end game it can be used to wolf pile. So not as useless as at first figured. In the right circumstance it could be stupid powerful. To guard against it we will need to implement the Newcastle rule (I think that is an appropriate name for it) and not vote anyone up to N-1 until we are sure we want to lynch that player.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:19 am
by Holman
Agreed. N-2 is the new N-1.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:52 am
by Unagi
I assume the Agent's protection then covers for the Soldier's Shot? Is that correct?

Also, does the Soldier's Shot 'end the day'/'skip the lynch' ?

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:50 pm
by Lassr
Unagi wrote:I assume the Agent's protection then covers for the Soldier's Shot? Is that correct?

Also, does the Soldier's Shot 'end the day'/'skip the lynch' ?
protects against any kind of kill during the day except the lynch.

Day does not end if soldier kills.

Re: The Parasite-8/18 start-Sign up closed

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:51 pm
by Lassr
all roles complete