The Parasite -GAME OVER-Town wins

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:23 am

Moliere wrote:How long does it take Scoop to tell everyone who to kill?

Geez, I wonder who I'd like to kill.

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Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:33 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Moliere wrote:How long does it take Scoop to tell everyone who to kill?
Geez, I wonder who I'd like to kill.

It's me, isn't it?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:47 am

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:10 am

Maybe Cassini was the Parasite and orders are no longer being transmitted.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:24 am

Working on it now. I had class yesterday and it was my anniversary. Wife over WW.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:26 am

Lassr wrote:Working on it now. I had class yesterday and it was my anniversary. Wife over WW.

Priorities Man!

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:30 am

ah
ah
ah
ah
stayin' alive

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:00 am

Day 3-Town Hall
As the people gather and eye each other with suspicion, Grundbegriff walks up with an empty gas canister. “I found a body burned beyond recognition and this gas canister sitting next to it.” He looks around, “Who is missing?”
“RMC.” Scoop blurts out. “RMC is missing. Those bastards burned him?”
There were more parasites to deal with today.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:01 am

Guess he's not red rocket afterall

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:01 am

Day 3
Players ----------- Voted For:
1 Vorret
2 Holman--------
3 Scoop----------
4 Archinerd-----
5 Punisher-------
6 Unagi-----------
7 Remus West---
8 Grundbegriff--
9 Moliere--------
.
.
.
Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( )--- ---

Deaths
Newcastle--- Peace Out
El Guapo----- Salsaed
Zarathud----- slimed
BB2112------ Double pumped
RMC-------- crispy

Majority = 5

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:08 am

Looks like I survived for another day of Scoopcusations.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:44 am

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:45 am

Zarathud wrote:Actually, that was what REMUS said. Not you, BB. You were quiet or busy when I asked for your thoughts...at least twice.

accuse bb2112

After the last few games, you're a strong candidate for them to choose. You're the Infected.

This post was why I flipped my vote to bb2112.

Rereading.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:46 am

Remus West wrote:
Zarathud wrote:Actually, that was what REMUS said. Not you, BB. You were quiet or busy when I asked for your thoughts...at least twice.

accuse bb2112

After the last few games, you're a strong candidate for them to choose. You're the Infected.
This post was why I flipped my vote to bb2112.

Rereading.

Wow, I missed this post, that was straight to the point

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:13 pm

BB voted on RMC right before we lynched him. He knew it wouldn't work, but I wonder why that choice, especially when he then chose to Zerk Zara instead.

It would really suck if both Zara and RMC were Special.

The wolves haven't had enough scans to know whether that could be true, though, have they?

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:18 pm

Holman wrote:BB voted on RMC right before we lynched him. He knew it wouldn't work, but I wonder why that choice, especially when he then chose to Zerk Zara instead.

It would really suck if both Zara and RMC were Special.

The wolves haven't had enough scans to know whether that could be true, though, have they?

My guess is you chose RMC because you thought it would make Remus look bad and take some pressure off your buddy Unagi.
It's just a guess though, how right am I?

Holman

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:21 pm

*if* our seer is still alive I think now would be a good time to come out since the wolves probably have a scanner.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:22 pm

You've acted suspicious of me all game. WhatdidIeverdotoyou??

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:22 pm

Holman wrote:You've acted suspicious of me all game. WhatdidIeverdotoyou??

(Talking to Archinerd here.)

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:27 pm

With the zerker confirmed dead, we have no fear that a special can be killed immediately during the day. Therefore, there is no need to saying right away. Wouldn't you agree, Grund?

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Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:27 pm

Saying anything. Ugh

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Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:32 pm

Holman wrote:
Holman wrote:You've acted suspicious of me all game. WhatdidIeverdotoyou??
(Talking to Archinerd here.)

1. I think Unagi is probably a wolf.
2. You are Unagi's "thorn", therefore he should either recruit or kill you. You are still alive.
3. As I said before, I think you are "off" this game.

The one thing you have going for you though is this.
I am not the seer but I did want the wolves to think maybe I was. So I kept up my commentary on you hoping you were in fact a wolf and you guys would kill me because you thought I had scanned you. ...thus protecting the real seer.

Since I am still alive either you didn't take the bait or you are not a wolf. Since we have villagers to spare, I'm willing to find out the hard way.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:51 pm

Lassr wrote:Working on it now. I had class yesterday and it was my anniversary. Wife over WW.

Good call. Happy anniversary!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:19 pm

Interesting. So... we need to starting thinking systematically about what's in the game.

We started with a Seer/Reporter and two other specials.
Possible non-Seer specials include Mortician (know who died), Soldier (Bakhshot), Agent (guardian), Monitor (overvoter), PI (learns roles)

These are selected, not randomized, so thinking about their relative potency seems valuable. With that in mind, we probably have (or had) a Soldier; that seems like a strong role, and it's immune to fakery. We probably also have|had an Agent, also a strong role. Honestly, if either of those were available, would you choose Poll Monitor? PI seems fairly inert, but mortician has some value.

Zerker was definitely in play, and there are three baddies in all. The other two are in roles from this list:
Intimidator (interferes with scans), Manipulator (can force involuntary Scoopage, I guess), Devioid (overvoter, can fake Poll Monitor, as if anyone would choose to be that), Seeker (evil Seer), Prober (checks what they've killed, to ensure safe fakery).

If you were team evil, wouldn't you want a scanner? So Seeker is probably in. Manip and Devi are silly, IMO. Intimidator might not be bad, though you'd have to second-guess whom the Seer will scan. Prober is insurance-- also not bad, but entails lag time.

Hypothetical team Good: Seer-Reporter, Agent-Guardian, Soldier-Hunter
Hypothetical team Evil: Bombardier-Zerker, Seeker, Intimidator-or-Prober

Thoughts?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:25 pm

DEAD

Newcastle
El Guapo
Zarathud
BB2112
RMC

The deads list includes 0-3 Specials and 1 Parasite.

ALIVE

Archinerd
Grundbegriff
Holman
Moliere
Punisher
Remus West
Scoop86753
Unagi
Vorret

The alives list includes 0-3 Specials and 2 Infecteds.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:21 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:DEAD

Newcastle

El Guapo

Zarathud

BB2112

RMC
The deads list includes 0-3 Specials and 1 Parasite.

Why do you say 0-3 Specials? El Guapo came out as Protector and was never countered, and then the Wolves killed him.

Is there any serious reason to think he wasn't what he claimed?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:49 pm

Holman wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote: ...
The deads list includes 0-3 Specials and 1 Parasite.
Why do you say 0-3 Specials? El Guapo came out as Protector and was never countered, and then the Wolves killed him.
Is there any serious reason to think he wasn't what he claimed?

I tend to be strict when characterizing the facts. There have been games in which I, as an unpowered innocent, stepped forward with a wink and a nod to provide lasting cover for a teammate by making a false claim. (Did you think Scoop had originated that play?

) So I leave open the logical possibility that El Guapo was either a simple villager or, in the least likely case, a different special.

What do the odds favor? It's pretty likely that he was exactly what he said he was.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:07 pm

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:14 pm

Not too surprised you're still alive, Unaginfected.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:31 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Holman wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote: ...
The deads list includes 0-3 Specials and 1 Parasite.
Why do you say 0-3 Specials? El Guapo came out as Protector and was never countered, and then the Wolves killed him.
Is there any serious reason to think he wasn't what he claimed?
I tend to be strict when characterizing the facts. There have been games in which I, as an unpowered innocent, stepped forward with a wink and a nod to provide lasting cover for a teammate by making a false claim. (Did you think Scoop had originated that play? ) So I leave open the logical possibility that El Guapo was either a simple villager or, in the least likely case, a different special.

What do the odds favor? It's pretty likely that he was exactly what he said he was.

I get it. I just wanted to register the asterisk on that zero.

What do you think are the odds the Wolves have scanned and (or or) have killed more than one Special?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:59 pm

Wow, it's been years since we got some Ole fashion Grundstanding.

So. It's fun to talk about roles but more fun is who BB picked for his team.

I bet he picked a strong team regardless of the attention they would draw. Or at least one vocal strong and one under the radar player.

That leaves me out of both of those groups. Lol

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Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:04 pm

Lassr wrote:Working on it now. I had class yesterday and it was my anniversary. Wife over WW.

This was a horrible decision. I feel that you need to put more effort into our relationship or I may have to start seeing other GM's...

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:06 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:Wow, it's been years since we got some Ole fashion Grundstanding.

So. It's fun to talk about roles but more fun is who BB picked for his team.

I bet he picked a strong team regardless of the attention they would draw. Or at least one vocal strong and one under the radar player.

That leaves me out of both of those groups. Lol

Well, you are strong in your own way in these games.. plus I have you on my safe list along with remus, so there's that...
I just need to decide on which one of you, but we have time and I'm not sure if there is a consensus on the seer outing themselves, so if they do and they scanned you, that will come into play...

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:41 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:I bet he picked a strong team regardless of the attention they would draw. Or at least one vocal strong and one under the radar player.

Some possible mixes:
Stylistic (three combinations): two forward players, two reticent wallflowers, or one of each.
Thematic: two of his crew, or two of his notorious foes (possibly the same sets of people!), or just one.
Unpredictable: random selection.
Iocane: Selections steering clear of all the above based on private considerations

I don't know or understand bb2112 well enough to guess what he'd do. Do you?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:45 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:Not too surprised you're still alive, Unaginfected.

Yeah, I bet.
Pretty sure I've been a 'day kill' goal of the wolves since the start. It would be odd for them to suddenly think I should be killed at night.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:46 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I bet he picked a strong team regardless of the attention they would draw. Or at least one vocal strong and one under the radar player.
Some possible mixes:
Stylistic (three combinations): two forward players, two reticent wallflowers, or one of each.
Thematic: two of his crew, or two of his notorious foes (possibly the same sets of people!), or just one.
Unpredictable: random selection.
Iocane: Selections steering clear of all the above based on private considerations

I don't know or understand bb2112 well enough to guess what he'd do. Do you?

I do. Yes.
He would pick you and Remus.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:48 pm

Unagi wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:I don't know or understand bb2112 well enough to guess what he'd do. Do you?
I do. Yes. He would pick you and Remus.

I have reason to suppose that you're, at most, only have as good at second-guessing bb2112 as you think you are.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:52 pm

well... I was indeed right about him.... wasn't I?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:36 pm

Unagi wrote:well... I was indeed right about him.... wasn't I?

I still don't understand how the heat got started on bb anyway. I mean, he didn't handle the attention well but what started it?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:37 pm

Unagi wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I bet he picked a strong team regardless of the attention they would draw. Or at least one vocal strong and one under the radar player.
Some possible mixes:
Stylistic (three combinations): two forward players, two reticent wallflowers, or one of each.
Thematic: two of his crew, or two of his notorious foes (possibly the same sets of people!), or just one.
Unpredictable: random selection.
Iocane: Selections steering clear of all the above based on private considerations

I don't know or understand bb2112 well enough to guess what he'd do. Do you?
I do. Yes.
He would pick you and Remus.

My top two would have been Remus and Grund or Unagi and RMC. Man, this was the game to be evil.