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I wish I'd thought to ask whether my shot would reset the clock. It would have been good to wait and see who else joined or avoided the Grund vote.

Unagi wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Unagi wrote:Lol (reconcile the RMC comment)

First off. I’m voting Archinerd.
If he turns up villager, I will reconcile my RMC comment by saying “or maybe RMC wasn’t the seer”

Not hard

So you brought up the possibility with intent to discard it later when it becomes inconvenient. Noted.

LOL

No, YOU just brought up one little ‘I wonder’ post of mine because it was convenient.


Wow
Listen to you man.

I wish I had the time to go back and find it because I'm certain you've brought it up at least twice in a short period of time.

Holman wrote:I wish I'd thought to ask whether my shot would reset the clock. It would have been good to wait and see who else joined or avoided the Grund vote.

I would have Scooped him without a care to avoid the deadline (and because he wasn't playing Grund like, though it was refreshing to see him post that much!)

by the way, did you just take a wild guess or something in particular made you shoot him?

Vorret wrote:

Holman wrote:I wish I'd thought to ask whether my shot would reset the clock. It would have been good to wait and see who else joined or avoided the Grund vote.

I would have Scooped him without a care to avoid the deadline (and because he wasn't playing Grund like, though it was refreshing to see him post that much!)

by the way, did you just take a wild guess or something in particular made you shoot him?

I thought he was playing differently, although this was difficult to track because he had recently (over the course of a couple of recent games) declared his intention not to hold back as usual.

But, honestly, I felt I had little to go on. My shot was about 75% the thought that bb2112 would, given the choice, choose Grund for his Wolf Team. I did go back and see if I could find any positive sign that Grund *wasn't* evil, and I couldn't. All in all, Grund can blame his reputation as a strong player for his death.

My intuition suggests that the other choice might have been Punisher. I really think bb2112 might have chosen a veteran and a newbie to try to spread the profile.

But my vote is on Archinerd just for his pretty aggressive play, which has seemed a little undermotivated.

I think Unagi is all-but-proven good for being so willing to get into with Grund. I also happen to think (I could be wrong) that Remus' willingness to keep going at Unagi even now suggests that he's not a wolf either.

I agree with Punisher, it's a choice I probably would have made since he can pass off alot of his behavior on being new (though that's starting to wear thin).

I'm good with either Archinerd or Punisher, though I'd still prefer we test the later first.

Can people vote sometime soon here?


Punisher?
Remus?

I feel bad for the wolves. We lucked upon bb2112 and the drilled Grund between the eyes. I think archinerd is the final wolf. At this point I’d be shocked I was wrong really I haven’t been right about anything this game.


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Leaving for vacation in the morning. I check back in periodically.

And Unagi this ezmating does not mean I am a wolf!

 archinerd 
 


This seems to be the way it's flowing anyway..

N-1

Guess I should let you all know I'm the 'zerker.

Archinerd wrote:N-1

Guess I should let you all know I'm the 'zerker.

No shame in your game. You may kill me if you’d like.


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Day 1 Votes

Lassr wrote: Players ----------- Voted For:
1 Newcastle----- scoop
2 Vorret---------- Newcastle
3 Holman-------- Newcastle
4 BB2112--------- Newcastle
5 Scoop---------- Newcastle
6 Archinerd----- Newcastle
7 El Guapo------- scoop
8 Zarathud------- scoop
9 Punisher------- Newcastle
10 Unagi----------- Moliere
11 Remus West--- Unagi
12 RMC------------ Newcastle
13 Grundbegriff-- Newcastle
14 Moliere-------- Scoop
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Day 1 Votes


Targets ----------- Voters
( Newcastle----- 8 )--- Scoop --- Grundbegriff --- RMC --- Punisher --- Holman --- bb2112 --- Vorret --- Archinerd
( Scoop---------- 4 )--- Moliere --- Newcastle --- Zarathud --- El Guapo ---
( Moliere-------- 1 )--- Unagi ---
( Unagi----------- 1 )--- Remus West

Majority = 8
VOTING CLOSED

Moliere, Unagi or Remus look like obvious suspects. Wolves could be trying to be tricksy and are all piled on Newcastle though.

Day 2

Lassr wrote: Players ----------- Voted For:
1 Vorret----------
2 Holman-------- Remus West
3 BB2112--------- RMC
4 Scoop---------- BB2112
5 Archinerd----- BB2112
6 Zarathud------- BB2112
7 Punisher-------
8 Unagi----------- Remus West
9 Remus West--- BB2112
10 RMC------------ BB2112
11 Grundbegriff-- BB2112
12 Moliere-------- BB2112
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( RMC------------ 1 )--- BB2112 ---
( )--- ---
( BB2112--------- 7 )--- RMC--- Zarathud --- Remus West --- Archinerd --- Grundbegriff --- Scoop --- Moliere
( Remus West--- 2 )--- Unagi --- Holman ---
( )--- ---

Deaths
Newcastle--- Peace Out
El Guapo----- Salsaed

Majority = 7
VOTING CLOSED

 withdraw Scoop 
 

 Accuse Remus 
 

The rest of my list is, in no particular order;
Unagi
Punisher
Moliere

Day 3
Players ----------- Voted For:
1 Vorret---------- Punisher
2 Holman-------- archinerd
3 Scoop---------- archinerd
4 Archinerd----- Remus West
5 Punisher------- archinerd
6 Unagi----------- Archinerd
7 Remus West---
8 Moliere-------- Scoop
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.
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 1 )--- Moliere ---
( Archinerd----- 4 )--- Unagi --- Scoop --- Holman --- Punisher
( Remus West--- 1 )--- Archinerd --- ---
( Punisher------- 1 )--- Vorret ---

Deaths
Newcastle--- Peace Out
El Guapo----- Salsaed
Zarathud----- slimed
BB2112------ Double pumped
RMC-------- crispy
Grundbegriff-- stomped


Majority = 5

 wd Punisher 
 


Either him or Punisher for me so, let's do this...

 Archinerd 
 

Guess I don't get to scoop him then. I was going to vote him simply because of the scoop and the fact that I still don't have a comfortable feel for the game. I'd still much rather vote Unagi but I can see that is not going to happen today. Maybe tomorrow?

IF there is a tomorrow - You, Remus.

Unless you are forgetting you 'sadly conceded' something? amazing how you protest: "But, but you said RMC might have scanned me Good" -- and yet here you are right back at "Unagi".

Have you looked elsewhere, at all, for a wolf this game?

Day 3
Players ----------- Voted For:
1 Vorret---------- archinerd
2 Holman-------- archinerd
3 Scoop---------- archinerd
4 Archinerd----- Remus West
5 Punisher------- archinerd
6 Unagi----------- Archinerd
7 Remus West---
8 Moliere-------- Scoop
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 1 )--- Moliere ---
( Archinerd----- 5 )--- Unagi --- Scoop --- Holman --- Punisher --- Vorret
( Remus West--- 1 )--- Archinerd --- ---
( )--- ---

Deaths
Newcastle--- Peace Out
El Guapo----- Salsaed
Zarathud----- slimed
BB2112------ Double pumped
RMC-------- crispy
Grundbegriff-- stomped


Majority = 5
Voting Closed

At least we got the smelly one I guess

Unagi wrote:IF there is a tomorrow - You, Remus.

Unless you are forgetting you 'sadly conceded' something? amazing how you protest: "But, but you said RMC might have scanned me Good" -- and yet here you are right back at "Unagi".

Have you looked elsewhere, at all, for a wolf this game?

Yes, I have. I followed Zarathud right away on bb2112 because, as I noted early on, bb2112 was my second most suspect target behind you AND I felt his post accusing bb2112 seemed to imply a Seer claim. The problem is all your play does is scream bad guy to me. Why would I not remain focused on the one player I think it almost has to be? Do I have other suspects? Sure. Everyone except Holman. You are way way way ahead of anyone else though. Scoop is at the bottom of my list. If he turns up to be the final bad guy then I'll have to say he did an amazing job on day 1 to convince me it could not possibly be him.

Sorry Archinerd. you had some bad grouping with Grund there, IMO.
But still, sorry.... I really felt you were wolfish there, but no.

Remus. that's enough outa you.

Tomorrow, I believe our majority will need 4.

Gonna tell you all right now, I'm putting my vote on Remus and it's not moving.

I dunno, Holman will die tonight.
Holman, who are your suspects, what's your gut feeling?

I know there's Punisher (but honestly I've been wrong all game so ... meh)

Remus West wrote:

Unagi wrote:IF there is a tomorrow - You, Remus.

Unless you are forgetting you 'sadly conceded' something? amazing how you protest: "But, but you said RMC might have scanned me Good" -- and yet here you are right back at "Unagi".

Have you looked elsewhere, at all, for a wolf this game?

Yes, I have. I followed Zarathud right away on bb2112 because, as I noted early on, bb2112 was my second most suspect target behind you AND I felt his post accusing bb2112 seemed to imply a Seer claim. The problem is all your play does is scream bad guy to me. Why would I not remain focused on the one player I think it almost has to be? Do I have other suspects? Sure. Everyone except Holman. You are way way way ahead of anyone else though. Scoop is at the bottom of my list. If he turns up to be the final bad guy then I'll have to say he did an amazing job on day 1 to convince me it could not possibly be him.

A wolf getting behind a train on the Zerker isn't all that unheard of, is it?


You will kill Holman tonight, and Scoop tomorrow night if we don't lynch you tomorrow.
Leaving You, Me, Vorret, and Punisher on the last day.

And, honestly - if you aren't the wolf - and somehow Punisher (or Vorret or Scoop) is - it's all your fault.

I will say this. I feel VERY strong that it's not Scoop and it's not Vorret. I nearly feel as strong with regard to Punisher, but where Scoop and Vorret are like 98% , I would put Punisher at like 75%. Remus, I have you at like 20% human / 80% wolf.

Vorret wrote:I dunno, Holman will die tonight.
Holman, who are your suspects, what's your gut feeling?

I know there's Punisher (but honestly I've been wrong all game so ... meh)

I am not the parasite you are looking for..

heh.

I've entirely forgotten Moliere.

Hmmm. crap.

There's also the double vote that could be out there, they probably went seer-zerker and double vote so if we get to 3 players it's automatically game over... (if the double vote wasn't Grund, that is... which is a possibility).

gotta be careful...

Vorret wrote:I dunno, Holman will die tonight.
Holman, who are your suspects, what's your gut feeling?

I know there's Punisher (but honestly I've been wrong all game so ... meh)

I had one bullet worth of wisdom, and it's spent.

I'm sorry about Archinerd. I helped push that, and it was clearly wrong.

I guess my top suspicions are now on Punisher and Moliere: Punisher because he seems an unlikely and therefore good-cover team pick and Moliere because he has played an unusually under-the-radar game. If I had to pick, I might even do Moliere first.

My gut tells me that Remus isn't a wolf, mainly because he has kept getting into it with Unagi even after (due to his pushing against Grund) Unagi came to look pretty clean.

His opposition to Grund is what makes Unagi look Villager to me, plus the fact that his late-night speculative rants would open up a wolf to too much attention. I think he's been genuine rather than feigned in his frustrations. (If it's a fake, it's some of the best play I've seen in a while.)

Vorret helped get the push started on Grund. A Wolf might have joined in, but he would have had no reason to start it.

I think Scoop is good. His Day One would have been absurdly bad play for a non-Zerker wolf.

So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

Holman wrote:So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

I can assure you that bb would not pick me to be on his team Wolf.

Holman wrote:

Vorret wrote:I dunno, Holman will die tonight.
Holman, who are your suspects, what's your gut feeling?

I know there's Punisher (but honestly I've been wrong all game so ... meh)

I had one bullet worth of wisdom, and it's spent.

I'm sorry about Archinerd. I helped push that, and it was clearly wrong.

I guess my top suspicions are now on Punisher and Moliere: Punisher because he seems an unlikely and therefore good-cover team pick and Moliere because he has played an unusually under-the-radar game. If I had to pick, I might even do Moliere first.

My gut tells me that Remus isn't a wolf, mainly because he has kept getting into it with Unagi even after (due to his pushing against Grund) Unagi came to look pretty clean.

His opposition to Grund is what makes Unagi look Villager to me, plus the fact that his late-night speculative rants would open up a wolf to too much attention. I think he's been genuine rather than feigned in his frustrations. (If it's a fake, it's some of the best play I've seen in a while.)

Vorret helped get the push started on Grund. A Wolf might have joined in, but he would have had no reason to start it.

I think Scoop is good. His Day One would have been absurdly bad play for a non-Zerker wolf.

So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

I'm almost leaning this way now too.
sigh...

Moliere wrote:

Holman wrote:So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

I can assure you that bb would not pick me to be on his team Wolf.

there is that,

Moliere wrote:

Holman wrote:So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

I can assure you that bb would not pick me to be on his team Wolf.

I can assure you that bb did not pick me to be on his team wolf.

Punisher wrote:

Moliere wrote:

Holman wrote:So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

I can assure you that bb would not pick me to be on his team Wolf.

I can assure you that bb did not pick me to be on his team wolf.

Do you see the difference there?

Moliere wrote:

Punisher wrote:

Moliere wrote:

Holman wrote:So... vote for Moliere then Punisher..?

I can assure you that bb would not pick me to be on his team Wolf.

I can assure you that bb did not pick me to be on his team wolf.

Do you see the difference there?

yes. it is intentional as I do not have insight into BB's mind like you seem to do.. Maybe because you are on his team?

Unagi wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Unagi wrote:IF there is a tomorrow - You, Remus.

Unless you are forgetting you 'sadly conceded' something? amazing how you protest: "But, but you said RMC might have scanned me Good" -- and yet here you are right back at "Unagi".

Have you looked elsewhere, at all, for a wolf this game?

Yes, I have. I followed Zarathud right away on bb2112 because, as I noted early on, bb2112 was my second most suspect target behind you AND I felt his post accusing bb2112 seemed to imply a Seer claim. The problem is all your play does is scream bad guy to me. Why would I not remain focused on the one player I think it almost has to be? Do I have other suspects? Sure. Everyone except Holman. You are way way way ahead of anyone else though. Scoop is at the bottom of my list. If he turns up to be the final bad guy then I'll have to say he did an amazing job on day 1 to convince me it could not possibly be him.

A wolf getting behind a train on the Zerker isn't all that unheard of, is it?

Not even a little bit unheard of. Doesn't matter. I can not help the outcome. I can only point to the fact that he was listed as my second suspect behind you when you accuse me of not looking at any other players.

You will kill Holman tonight, and Scoop tomorrow night if we don't lynch you tomorrow.
Leaving You, Me, Vorret, and Punisher on the last day.

If I were a wolf I'd kill you. I have as much chance of managing to get you lynched as I do getting Holman lynched but you keep pointing at me. Sidebar: If Unagi is not the remaining Wolf I have just handed you a golden opportunity to frame me.

And, honestly - if you aren't the wolf - and somehow Punisher (or Vorret or Scoop) is - it's all your fault.

Not if I manage to convince the crowd to off you and you are the last wolf - wait, then it would be my fault we win. I'll take that.

I will say this. I feel VERY strong that it's not Scoop and it's not Vorret. I nearly feel as strong with regard to Punisher, but where Scoop and Vorret are like 98% , I would put Punisher at like 75%. Remus, I have you at like 20% human / 80% wolf.

Nothing to respond to here but I figured I'd keep your comment in tact.

Punisher wrote:yes. it is intentional as I do not have insight into BB's mind like you seem to do.. Maybe because you are on his team?

I don't need insight into BB's mind other than basic psychology of him picking a team. You stand out as a newer player and therefore less suspicious choice. I'm nobody. I'm not part of team Detroit or Canadian. It's not a coincidence that 6 games in a row I have been "randomly" selected as an unpowered villager. I don't stand out as a particular strong player (e.g., Grund, Scoop, Remus, Ung, et al) so there is no reason for BB to select me.

ouch.

Scare quotes on random.

Moliere wrote:

Punisher wrote:yes. it is intentional as I do not have insight into BB's mind like you seem to do.. Maybe because you are on his team?

I don't need insight into BB's mind other than basic psychology of him picking a team. You stand out as a newer player and therefore less suspicious choice. I'm nobody. I'm not part of team Detroit or Canadian. It's not a coincidence that 6 games in a row I have been "randomly" selected as an unpowered villager. I don't stand out as a particular strong player (e.g., Grund, Scoop, Remus, Ung, et al) so there is no reason for BB to select me.

Actually, as a non-strong player who doesn't stand out, wouldn't that make you the perfect choice?