Octopus Overlords

Since we're dropping the Newcastle train, I can join the other one.

 Scoop90210 
 

Isgrimnur wrote:Since we're dropping the Newcastle train, I can join the other one.

 Scoop90210 
 

Reason?

You're against the seer coming out, no reason given, and you doubled up on me through a complete lack of information on my voting pattern.

I disagree. We will learn who the Seer is tomorrow either from the Seer himself or from Drazzil.

The wolves have to make a choice now. Try to kill the Seer by guessing who they think he is (and then Drazzil tells us who the Seer was) or kill Drazzil and leave themselves the option to counter a Seer claim tomorrow.

If the Seer comes out all of those hard choices by the wolves are gone and all that we learn is who is the Seer which we are going to learn tomorrow anyway.

Bad strategy from you two. Or wolf strategy.

Btw, I’m pretty confident I know who the Seer is. Tomorrow will be interesting.

Hey Drazzil are you still playing? Need your vote please.

He’s ezmating his way to Oregon, supposedly.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:31 pm I disagree. We will learn who the Seer is tomorrow either from the Seer himself or from Drazzil.

The wolves have to make a choice now. Try to kill the Seer by guessing who they think he is (and then Drazzil tells us who the Seer was) or kill Drazzil and leave themselves the option to counter a Seer claim tomorrow.

If the Seer comes out all of those hard choices by the wolves are gone and all that we learn is who is the Seer which we are going to learn tomorrow anyway.

Bad strategy from you two. Or wolf strategy.

I agree with this.

As Scoop points out - beside making things more clear for the wolves -- what is the gain in hearing from the Seer today.

People that are saying the Seer -should- come out. What is it that you think that gives the villagers?


Newcastle is harping on that the Seer would often come out by now... To do what? Share his scans? Well - it seems that information is out there... We started on a day... "day 3" is misleading in terms of the Seer and you know it. The seer has had 2 nights. 2 scans, and those scans (apparently) have been shared with us.


What, Newcastle and Holman (I can't tell Issy's position TBH, he challenged Scoop's answer but then didn't even think he should answer?), is it you hope to achieve from getting the exact Identity of this possible Seer out today?


and Holman asking people to play. Humor.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:31 pm I disagree. We will learn who the Seer is tomorrow either from the Seer himself or from Drazzil.

The wolves have to make a choice now. Try to kill the Seer by guessing who they think he is (and then Drazzil tells us who the Seer was) or kill Drazzil and leave themselves the option to counter a Seer claim tomorrow.

If the Seer comes out all of those hard choices by the wolves are gone and all that we learn is who is the Seer which we are going to learn tomorrow anyway.

Bad strategy from you two. Or wolf strategy.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:34 pm Btw, I’m pretty confident I know who the Seer is. Tomorrow will be interesting.

Hey Drazzil are you still playing? Need your vote please.

If you're confident about the Seer (and you've said so at least twice), don't you think the Wolves are confident about the Seer?

Holman wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:31 pm I disagree. We will learn who the Seer is tomorrow either from the Seer himself or from Drazzil.

The wolves have to make a choice now. Try to kill the Seer by guessing who they think he is (and then Drazzil tells us who the Seer was) or kill Drazzil and leave themselves the option to counter a Seer claim tomorrow.

If the Seer comes out all of those hard choices by the wolves are gone and all that we learn is who is the Seer which we are going to learn tomorrow anyway.

Bad strategy from you two. Or wolf strategy.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:34 pm Btw, I’m pretty confident I know who the Seer is. Tomorrow will be interesting.

Hey Drazzil are you still playing? Need your vote please.

If you're confident about the Seer (and you've said so at least twice), don't you think the Wolves are confident about the Seer?

If they are what does that change? What do you think I should be doing about it??

Seriously? What are you asking here?


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I’ve already it was a mistake for Drazzil to post the PM but it’s done and I certainly didn’t cause that.

That’s why I’m convinced Drazzil will last the night and he can confirm who the Seer is tomorrow.

So is that enough about the Seer coming out?

Right now I’m aiming for Issy and Newcastle. I just hope I’m not blind to an evil Unagi backing me up.

This has been a tough game.

Sorry Newcastle. I don’t think our TV series is going to get renewed for another season.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:51 am Sorry Newcastle. I don’t think our TV series is going to get renewed for another season.

spin off dude...the audience will love how i slay the scoopwolf in S1...and they will demand to see another season of watching my brilliance unfold as i stuff my foot into my mouth each and every scene only to pull it off at the end by saying "oh.....just one more thing!"

Unagi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:13 am

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:31 pm I disagree. We will learn who the Seer is tomorrow either from the Seer himself or from Drazzil.

The wolves have to make a choice now. Try to kill the Seer by guessing who they think he is (and then Drazzil tells us who the Seer was) or kill Drazzil and leave themselves the option to counter a Seer claim tomorrow.

If the Seer comes out all of those hard choices by the wolves are gone and all that we learn is who is the Seer which we are going to learn tomorrow anyway.

Bad strategy from you two. Or wolf strategy.

I agree with this.

As Scoop points out - beside making things more clear for the wolves -- what is the gain in hearing from the Seer today.

People that are saying the Seer -should- come out. What is it that you think that gives the villagers?


Newcastle is harping on that the Seer would often come out by now... To do what? Share his scans? Well - it seems that information is out there... We started on a day... "day 3" is misleading in terms of the Seer and you know it. The seer has had 2 nights. 2 scans, and those scans (apparently) have been shared with us.


What, Newcastle and Holman (I can't tell Issy's position TBH, he challenged Scoop's answer but then didn't even think he should answer?), is it you hope to achieve from getting the exact Identity of this possible Seer out today?


and Holman asking people to play. Humor.

Realistically, how long do seers live? ANd yes you can say its day 2= 2 scans. The point is 2 night cycles have gone by, and we are done to really 1 miss.

We both know a seer coming out that close to the end is liable to cause more damage than good. ITs also an awesome move to play as a wolf...come out on the "final day" and lead the village astray. That's the move I am trying to guard against.

Getting 2 scans is in great. If we had more people and we knew that there going to be a few extra days in the game, I'd say no sweat in terms of letting them scan again, but its really getting down to the wire.

Also - its usually good practice for seers to come out AFTER they have 2-3 scans depending how many more days are left. And regardless if their scans are alive. It unveils more piece from the board and creates further clarity.

You. Know. This.

Quit acting obtuse. A reasonable villager Unagi would see this. A wolf unagi who plans on coming out tomorrow as the seer (to challenge the drazzil seer)...wants the chaos at the end.

What do I hope to gain...clarity.

So how this helps....lets run the numbers


A. 1 scan (innocent) plus 1 dead scan, and a Seer comes out. Narrows the pool to 5 players. Out of those 5 players, 40% of them are wolves. (by the way you let the wolves kill the seer that night, proves then the person going forward...we now have a 100% proven person out of 5 people...meaning 50% odds can hit a wolf)

b. 2 scans both alive = seer comes out...3 people revealed to be "innocent"....BOOM! The suspect pool is now 4 people...2 of which are wolves. I like those odds.

Right now our odds of hitting a wolf are 2 in 7. I much rather have a 2 in 5 odds of hitting a wolf than 2 to 7. That's what a seer coming out today does. It blows open the game for us. Plus it gives us the security of knowing we wont have a competing seer scenario on the last day with our last miss should we not strike true today.


A seer trying to stay alive at this point is selfish, and are not being reasonable. They can drop a lot of data in the game. There is ZERO guarantee they stay alive through the night...and we then lose their data.

SEER COME OUT COME OUT WHEREVER YOU ARE!

Stop making me agree with Newcastle!

1. Isgrimnur - Newcastle, Scoop
2. El Guapo - Isgrminur
3. Newcastle - Unagi, Holman, Scoop
4. Holman -
5. Unagi -Newcastle
6. Lassr - eaten
7. Scoop - Isgrimnur, Newcastle
8. Punisher - stabbed
9. Drazzil -
10. Lagom Lite - Swedish Meatballs
11. RMC - Scooped

7 remain. Majority is 4.
Current Vote Totals:


Scoop - 2
Holman -
Isgrminur - 1
Unagi -
Newcastle - 1
Drazzil -
El Guapo -


Should be correct. As always, check my work.

The Seer already came out. We know his scans. Lassr and Drazzil.

Unless you are disputing Drazzil and if you are why isn’t your vote on him?

A spin-off soon after getting cancelled. Unlikely. We are going to have wait a few years for the reboot. I wonder who will play McScoopmick?

Isgrimnur wrote:Stop making me agree with Newcastle!

God, all three of you?!?

Is there any sanity left in the village?

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:59 pm The Seer already came out. We know his scans. Lassr and Drazzil.

Unless you are disputing Drazzil and if you are why isn’t your vote on him?

A spin-off soon after getting cancelled. Unlikely. We are going to have wait a few years for the reboot. I wonder who will play McScoopmick?

dude the spinoff is a go go go! I'm blowing up on my twitter for my performance this season, and have been offerred a multiple season deal with options to creating my own production company.

a. You are placing a lot of trust in Drazzil's wolf & villager radar

b. According to Drazzil....not to besmirch him....BUT

1. drazzil could be lying....we dont know if it is true; could it be a wolf ruse (i doubt this, but pointing it out)...meaning drazzil wolf sent this out with his partner to stir up pandemonium in the village.

2. drazzil believes it but its a wolf seer who is messing with him.

3. it could be true!

But until we can put a person to the name, then we can't challenge them. What if its a wolf and hte real seer is alive? They could counter them? eh? Scoopwolf?

/walks up to Scoop
"You got something there on your shoulder
/Newcastle brushes off some Marinara sauce
/a chunk of it falls to the floor
/goes to pick it up
/recoils as he realizes its a chewed on finger.

SO i guess the question is...where is el guapo and the drazz?

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:59 pm The Seer already came out. We know his scans. Lassr and Drazzil.

Unless you are disputing Drazzil and if you are why isn’t your vote on him?

A spin-off soon after getting cancelled. Unlikely. We are going to have wait a few years for the reboot. I wonder who will play McScoopmick?

The Seer did *not* come out. Someone claiming to be the Seer contacted Drazzil.

You've said you think you know who wrote Drazz's message. I think most of us probably have a pretty good guess as well.

The question is whether that person is more likely a Wolf or a spoof.

Apologies to everyone - I've been buried for the last few days getting ready for a deposition today. Well, that's done, so now I can start getting ready for the next one in a few weeks....

Anyway, at this point I lean towards the seer coming out, but honestly I'm not sure it matters all that much as a practical matter. IF the seer is not dead and did not contact Drazzil, then OBVIOUSLY he should come out. If the seer comes out and Drazzil does not contradict him (does not say "nope, that's not who contacted me"), then I'm not totally sure what we're going to do with that information. Absent any contesting, I assume that we wouldn't be inclined to lynch said seer? Then that would doom the seer (if he's telling the truth and not spoofing), whereas currently he's probably only 75% doomed (I too think I probably know who the seer is, though that's still not quite as good as 100%) knowing, which could deny us a chance at a valuable scan. Seems like the main upshot is that if the seer declared and survived, that wouldn't look so great for the seer. But I assume that said seer would say in that situation that the wolves left them alive expecting us to lynch him the next day (possibly killing Drazzil instead), THOUGH that would be a gamble since the seer might hit a wolf that night, BUT I assume that a wolf seer would claim to have hit a wolf anyway figuring that the village probably goes for that instead of an uncontested seer....

Does all this make sense? Not totally sure after deposing an actuary all day. BUT anyway my instinct is for the seer to come out, but I'm not sure it changes anything (probably wouldn't lynch them today, probably wouldn't avoid next day chaos either way, unless we hit a wolf today and give ourselves some breathing room).

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:51 pm

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:59 pm The Seer already came out. We know his scans. Lassr and Drazzil.

Unless you are disputing Drazzil and if you are why isn’t your vote on him?

A spin-off soon after getting cancelled. Unlikely. We are going to have wait a few years for the reboot. I wonder who will play McScoopmick?

The Seer did *not* come out. Someone claiming to be the Seer contacted Drazzil.

You've said you think you know who wrote Drazz's message. I think most of us probably have a pretty good guess as well.

The question is whether that person is more likely a Wolf or a spoof.

Are you planning on voting at some point?

Seems like (for better or for worse) the claimed seer and Drazzil have both decided in favor of not revealing today. If nothing else it would be nice to get non-voters to say who they would vote for if they voted, at least to get things less stalled.

So....

SEER SEER COME OUT:
Elguapo, Holman, Issy, and Newcastle


STAY HIDDEN
Scoop & Unagi


UNKNOWN
Drazzil

just curious...do we need a drazzil replacement? or can we do this on our own?

scoop today....

unagi tomorrow....

???

?!

OK, I'm going to go with my gut.

 Scoop 
 

I believe that's N-1.

Not a wolf, not a Seer. Really no idea who TBD.

MY guess Newcastle and Issy.

I hope they miss tonight and you get another scan.

Newcastle, Isgrimnur, Holman - On Scoop Bandwagon. Are both the wolves on here? There has to be at least one, right?

Drazzil, Unagi, El Guapo - ??

Holman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 pm OK, I'm going to go with my gut.

 Scoop 
 

Your gut is full of Swedish Meatballs.

Newcastle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:31 pm just curious...do we need a drazzil replacement? or can we do this on our own?

scoop today....

unagi tomorrow....

???

No Drazzil replacement please. Lots of drama for me lately, though I'm fine. Give me tomorrow to get my bearings and I will vote.

If I'm being played I'm dead in the night, because thats the only way fake seer gets ro keep faking it. If the seer is genuine and I get whacked then they get a free scan. Of course the wolves could whack me if they believe they have the identity of the real seer to throw doubt into the play. Or whack the seer if they know who they are cause I made the reveal unintentionally.

Man this game is like a soap opera.

Just off the cuff. I'm suspicious of the "seer" I'm suspicious of Scoop, I'm suspicious of Newcastle and Isg is perking my interest as well. So I don't have enough evidence of anything right now. I'm the Robert Muller of the village.

1. Isgrimnur - Newcastle, Scoop
2. El Guapo - Isgrminur
3. Newcastle - Unagi, Holman, Scoop
4. Holman - Scoop
5. Unagi -Newcastle
6. Lassr - eaten
7. Scoop - Isgrimnur, Newcastle
8. Punisher - stabbed
9. Drazzil -
10. Lagom Lite - Swedish Meatballs
11. RMC - Scooped

7 remain. Majority is 4.
Current Vote Totals:


Scoop - 3
Holman -
Isgrminur - 1
Unagi -
Newcastle - 1
Drazzil -
El Guapo -


Should be correct. As always, check my work.

For whom would you vote, Scoop?

Issy or Newcastle

Drazzil wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:03 am

Newcastle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:31 pm just curious...do we need a drazzil replacement? or can we do this on our own?

scoop today....

unagi tomorrow....

???

No Drazzil replacement please. Lots of drama for me lately, though I'm fine. Give me tomorrow to get my bearings and I will vote.

coolio! was wondering because the scuttlebut was you were moving and wanted to make sure you could still adequately partake for the villager's fun & pain.

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:53 pm Issy or Newcastle

This might be a good time to choose.

Holman wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:53 pm Issy or Newcastle

This might be a good time to choose.

Why is that?