Revolution Controller Revealed - FOR REAL!

Kaigen · Post by **Kaigen** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:22 pm

It's a TV remote!

I have to give Nintendo kudos for going in a direction I'm sure no one expected. It'll be interesting to actually try it.

Kagath · Post by **Kagath** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:03 am

But is it really something that kids will really want to play with other than to beat thier siblings? I can't really see that they will be able to use it effectively.

Strom · Post by **Strom** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:30 am

Hate it

Meghan · Post by **Meghan** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:30 am

I'm not sure what I think of this. It's got an optional joybuzzer.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:35 am

A glossy section of the top of the controller houses a transmitter--much like any remote would have--that was used extensively in the demos we saw. The signal from the unit is picked up by sensors you'll place near your television, which will then reflect your actions on the screen. Based on the responsiveness of the demos that we tried, this feature has the potential to turn the entire base controller unit into a new kind of pointing device. It also has great potential applications for sports games, such as laser-pointer-style play calling.

That's cool.

Vesper · Post by **Vesper** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:39 am

While it sure looks lame, the demo descriptions make it sound intriguing. At the very least, Nintendo is trying to innovate.

knob · Post by **knob** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:13 am

It looks neat, but I wonder how easy it'll be to use. You have to use two hands to hit the A and B buttons, and it's so skinny that I can't see that being comfortable.

Edit: Apparently, you can tilt it sideways and use it like an NES controller. Sounds neat.

Edit 2: I read you can use Gamecube controllers with it if you don't like the Revolution's controllers.

Andrew Wonser · Post by **Andrew Wonser** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:59 am

The first thing I thought of, when I saw this controller, was where do you put the two D batteries.

I also don't see them trying to innovate a thing. They just took a normal controller and split it in two, all praise Nintendo.

Vesper · Post by **Vesper** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:04 am

Andrew Wonser wrote:I also don't see them trying to innovate a thing. They just took a normal controller and split it in two, all praise Nintendo.

Did you not read the articles that go along with these pictures? Advanced motion tracking is the main aspect of this controller.

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:43 am

Both exciting and a little scary.

Hetz · Post by **Hetz** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:08 am

Wow, I think it looks destined to fail...but at least Nintendo has balls and are trying to inovate.

Honestly though, I think the general public is going to take one look at that thing and laugh.

Hetz · Post by **Hetz** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:18 am

Got this from over at Gaming Age, where the Nintendo Fanboys are NOT happy about the controller...and you know you have problems when the Nintendo fanboys don't even like it.

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:21 am

Hetz wrote:Wow, I think it looks destined to fail...but at least Nintendo has balls and are trying to inovate.

Honestly though, I think the general public is going to take one look at that thing and laugh.

On looks alone, I think you're right. Nintendo has to get people to see the motion tracking aspect clearly. The thing isn't a TV remote, it's a control wand.

Xoanon · Post by **Xoanon** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:57 am

There is a poor quality teaser trailer for the new controller on this site: http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html

qp · Post by qp » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:01 am

Well I'm sure the pure fan boys will be creaming themselves and running out in the streets trying to convince everyone how awesome this new cutting edge design is, but might I be the first to say:

"The emperor has no clothes"

Peacedog · Post by **Peacedog** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:52 am

This sucks ass.

JayG · Post by **JayG** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:06 am

Not necesarily. I don't think we're the target audiance. My wife loves the DS because of it's easer of use, so this could be aimed at her. It is a bit of a let down. Reminds me of Ginger.

Torfish · Post by **Torfish** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:12 am

I like when companies try to do things differently. I will give this a chance. I play wario twisted on the GBA and the tilt stuff works great. Fun. If you don't like the new controller, just use the normal wavebird ones. No big deal. At least nintendo is trying something original.

Why slam it when you haven't tried it yet?

warning · Post by **warning** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:26 am

Torfish wrote:I like when companies try to do things differently. I will give this a chance. I play wario twisted on the GBA and the tilt stuff works great. Fun. If you don't like the new controller, just use the normal wavebird ones. No big deal. At least nintendo is trying something original.

Why slam it when you haven't tried it yet?

Because it's Nintendo. Microsoft could release the exact same thing (not that they would) and people would wet themselves with anticipation and rattle on all day long about what a bold new step it is.

DiscoJason · Post by **DiscoJason** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:34 am

warning wrote:
Torfish wrote:I like when companies try to do things differently. I will give this a chance. I play wario twisted on the GBA and the tilt stuff works great. Fun. If you don't like the new controller, just use the normal wavebird ones. No big deal. At least nintendo is trying something original.

Why slam it when you haven't tried it yet?
Because it's Nintendo. Microsoft could release the exact same thing (not that they would) and people would wet themselves with anticipation and rattle on all day long about what a bold new step it is.

Actually, people would hate it if MS released it, too. People on the Internet hate everything. Now me personally, I love the idea. I of course would have to see how it feels in teh hands, but based on what I read, I think Nintendo has yet again come up with something cool, just like they did the DS. People ragged on the DS and now they own one.

My only concern is that this will make getting third-party multi-system ports onto the Revolution and therefore Nintendo will be doomed to be 3rd again, just like with the Gamecube. However, Nintendo's strength is first party titles and third-party exclusives and I think they will excel again with this. So, count me as an Internet person who thinks it is probably going to be great.

Hetz · Post by **Hetz** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:52 am

warning wrote:
Torfish wrote:I like when companies try to do things differently. I will give this a chance. I play wario twisted on the GBA and the tilt stuff works great. Fun. If you don't like the new controller, just use the normal wavebird ones. No big deal. At least nintendo is trying something original.

Why slam it when you haven't tried it yet?
Because it's Nintendo. Microsoft could release the exact same thing (not that they would) and people would wet themselves with anticipation and rattle on all day long about what a bold new step it is.

Uhh...no.

If Mircosoft released something like this I would think they had lost their minds and would say what a horrible move it is.

msurby · Post by **msurby** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:56 am

Looks like shit, but sounds awesome. The whole 'looks like shit' thing could really hurt them though.

Mookee · Post by **Mookee** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:57 am

Xoanon wrote:There is a poor quality teaser trailer for the new controller on this site: http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html

That certainly helped me understand it better. Looks interesting...

kathode · Post by **kathode** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:10 am

Kind of cool technology. From the looks of the video you can tell they're trying to hit up the casual game market pretty hard - lots of old people, groups of girls, etc. Lots of shots of weird rhythm games and people obviously playing some sort of Warioware and Mario Party style games. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just that stuff like that doesn't get me in particular excited at all. I'm sure they'll be successful and make a ton of money that way, but I'm going to have to wait for some sort of killer app. Good old wacky Nintendo.

Arkon · Post by **Arkon** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:11 am

Not sure this will be all that easy to use, not if you now have to coordinate body movements while pressing buttons and moving analog sticks. While innovation is great, the video of it in action makes me hate it. If I want to flail my arms like a mad man and get exercise while playing games then I will fire up DDR.

Eco-Logic · Post by **Eco-Logic** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:31 am

LOL! What a freaking joke.

The cube controller sucked bad enough, now this...

ChrisGwinn · Post by **ChrisGwinn** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:32 am

Here's the sequence of thoughts I had this morning while reading http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782 :

Is that a remote?
WTF?
One handed? Too bad it's Nintendo...
No, really, WTF?
OK. That explains the gyroscope patent rumors.
OK, I have been wanting a cool lightsaber fighting game?
Uh... OK
Huh, that might not actually be dumb.
OK. Maybe I'll buy one of these if they're cheap.
Wait - what am I doing? Don't believe the hype!
Boy, people are going to hate this.
Wait - I've hated every non-SNES Nintendo controller I've ever used.
Bet this will be an interesting thread at OO.
Maybe I'll buy one for when I have people over - you can drink and play at the same time.

CGMark · Post by **CGMark** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:23 am

Looks: WHat the hell.
Concept: Pretty damn cool.

Rating: EH.

Now do something about the craziness of the look, and you got me. Maybe its something that appeals to a certain niche crowd, but when you release a console, I dont think you want to appeal to a niche.

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:21 pm

You know... if you turn that sideways it's an oversized, wireless NES controller.

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gellar · Post by **gellar** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:41 pm

msurby wrote:Looks like shit, but sounds awesome. The whole 'looks like shit' thing could really hurt them though.

Pretty much. I'd like to say I won't buy this product, but I'm sure Nintendo will release 1 or 2 must haves that make me purchase the fuckin' thing. Just like the Gamecube, really.

gellar

Peacedog · Post by **Peacedog** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:26 pm

Hetz wrote:
warning wrote:
Torfish wrote:I like when companies try to do things differently. I will give this a chance. I play wario twisted on the GBA and the tilt stuff works great. Fun. If you don't like the new controller, just use the normal wavebird ones. No big deal. At least nintendo is trying something original.

Why slam it when you haven't tried it yet?
Because it's Nintendo. Microsoft could release the exact same thing (not that they would) and people would wet themselves with anticipation and rattle on all day long about what a bold new step it is.
Uhh...no.

If Mircosoft released something like this I would think they had lost their minds and would say what a horrible move it is.

If Apple released something like this, OTOH, people would soil themselves. At least the mac addicts would.

Microsoft would get mocked to high heaven and back. No question.

Peacedog · Post by **Peacedog** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:28 pm

ChrisGwinn wrote:Wait - I've hated every non-SNES Nintendo controller I've ever used.

So it isn't just me either? I had to endure a lot of mocking from all of my friends who were genisis owners. But I thought the SNES controller was superior ro the Genisis. And they mocked the shoulder buttons, only everyone owned a genesis controller with shoulder buttons in the end.

My SNES, and it's controllers, were the most durable console/console controllers I've ever had. Sigh.

ChrisGwinn · Post by **ChrisGwinn** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:30 pm

Peacedog wrote:
ChrisGwinn wrote:Wait - I've hated every non-SNES Nintendo controller I've ever used.
So it isn't just me either? I had to endure a lot of mocking from all of my friends who were genisis owners. But I thought the SNES controller was superior ro the Genisis. And they mocked the shoulder buttons, only everyone owned a genesis controller with shoulder buttons in the end.

My SNES, and it's controllers, were the most durable console/console controllers I've ever had. Sigh.

I think it is just you. I liked the Genesis controller better, I just failed to hate the SNES one. The NES/Nintendo 64/Gamecube ones confused and befuddled me. Although I expect the problems with the NES controllers were more due to my complete lack of hand/eye co-ordination at the time.

Peacedog · Post by **Peacedog** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:38 pm

My friend's genesis controllers all seemed to break down at rates similar tothe NES, but not myu SNES controllers. Ovber time, they received as much abuse as those genesis controllers in their spans. And kept on ticking. Maybe I just got lucky.

Scraper · Post by **Scraper** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:39 pm

To start this out I will admit that I am a Nintendo fanboy. I liked the N64 better than the PS, I like the Gamecube better than the PS2 and Xbox, I have every gameboy design ever released.

I can honestly say that this is the worst looking controller I have ever seen from a first party. The thing is a gimmick that will not work with 99.9% of the games that are being made today.

Anyone remember the Nintendo power Glove? It promised game control by moving your arm around, look how well that went. Can you say FLOP?

I really can't see how it will be enjoyable to control an entire game with your right hand in this day and age.

Nintendo better know what they are doing with this or they are in serious trouble.

Hetz · Post by **Hetz** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:48 pm

Uh-oh Nintnedo....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_ ... _game_show

Check out the name of the story.

Nintendo produces new remote control

That is the lead headline on the AP article.

Can you say Virtual Boy Part Deux?

Ramoz · Post by **Ramoz** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:48 pm

Why is it everything Nintendo does dooms them? DS? OMG DOOM! Yeah and look how well that's selling.

I have my reservation about this, but the first sword fighting game that comes out that allows you to completely control the movement of the sword with no prescripted button moves will = sold. Yeah it's been done on the pc, but not with a 3 dimensional moving controller.

Meghan · Post by **Meghan** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:24 pm

Here's a good pic that shows it form all angles. Note the big B button is on the underside of the control. So you can turn it sideways and have a fairly typical control or you can really use it one-handed, your thumb on top hitting the big A and you're finger underneath hitting the big B.

I'm not sure that I'd enjoy using it that way. I do like the pic I posted above - having a separate controller for the left hand. Instead of having one big piece that anchors your hands in the middle the separate pieces would be more ergonomic.

And yes, the Apple influence is clear. It looks, gorgeous, imo. Anyway -

Arkon · Post by **Arkon** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:37 pm

Ramoz wrote:Why is it everything Nintendo does dooms them? DS? OMG DOOM! Yeah and look how well that's selling.

I have my reservation about this, but the first sword fighting game that comes out that allows you to completely control the movement of the sword with no prescripted button moves will = sold. Yeah it's been done on the pc, but not with a 3 dimensional moving controller.

Until the first sword fighting game comes out and you realise you will never finish the game because you are not coordinated enough to actually make accurate sword strike motions and you beg for prescripted sword attacks assigned to a button.

shaggydoug · Post by **shaggydoug** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:07 pm

Hmmmm......needs to be a TiVo Peanut if you ask me.

- shaggy