New Capitalism-style browser game

[noxiousdog]

Quarterly Reports (companies in flux edition)

MERC
Book year: 42.18%
Quarter: 2.70%

Revenue Year: 56.90%
Quarter 19.74%

Spending Year: 408.93%
Quarter 92.78%

FRONT
Book year: 36.31%
Quarter: 4.79%

Revenue Year: 85.00%
Quarter -22.38%

Spending Year: 289.20%
Quarter -34.13%

FRONTA
Book year: -0.56%
Quarter: -8.29%

Revenue Year: -41.40%
Quarter -54.99%

Spending Year: -7.06%
Quarter -31.90%

CAKE
Book year: 91.24%
Quarter: 1.50%

Revenue Year: 22.09%
Quarter -38.36%

Spending Year: 116.24%
Quarter -90.19%

Interesting. I probably should have waited until monday.

[Kraken]

If this change to stores goes through, it will probably be the end for me. A large part of the games enjoyment was filling up all items available for me to sell preferably by making them myself, otherwise getting them on the B2B. If I'm going to be limited to 8 items per store I just do not find that interesting.

I had set myself the goal of becoming self-sufficient in as many supermarket commodities as possible, and was making pretty good progress toward that. This change would invalidate that whole approach.

Guess I'm outta here.

[GreenGoo]

I'm in the middle of shifting my focus out of food based products. It will be awhile as I plan on phasing out as buildings go offline and new ones come online. Given that any major upgrade is at least 3 days or more, it would be foolhardy to do it all at once and have 3+ days where my company was inert.

I could try to IPO and start up a new one, but I'm just changing direction instead.

[stessier]

I'm trying to run my stock down in all my stores so I am ready for the switch. As a result, I'm taking the weekend to upgrade everything not a store. I should have almost doubled my factory size by Monday. Should make for an interesting next week.

[Victoria Raverna]

I just posted a job offer for applicant to work at 'IDEA'. Minimun salary but 10% bonus based on profit. The job includes starting and stopping production runs, starting research and managing stores.

[Mold Maker]

Is anyone else having a hard time connecting to various pages? I'm timing out on most page, and have basically given up all together since it's impossible to reach something a few pages deep like setting up factory production. Even the forum is impossible to reach. Guess I'll just wait for the refresh on the new server and hope accessibility is back to normal.

[GreenGoo]

No, not really Mold Maker.

[GreenGoo]

Any buying opportunities? Have some cash lying around. ND, what's happening with FRONTA? It dropped off the face of the planet and while it's slowly making its way back up, I figured it was a bug or something. What's the deal?

Anybody know what happens if you research a product then sell the R&D building? What quality does the product get manufactured at? The researched level or Q0? Does anything change if you build the same R&D building again?

[Victoria Raverna]

Anybody know what happens if you research a product then sell the R&D building? What quality does the product get manufactured at? The researched level or Q0? Does anything change if you build the same R&D building again?

Researched level.

[stessier]

And no, nothing changes if you rebuild the building - you pick up where you left off.

MoldMaker - no issues connecting. Maybe try rebooting your modem/router?

[TazFTW]

Is anyone else having a hard time connecting to various pages? I'm timing out on most page, and have basically given up all together since it's impossible to reach something a few pages deep like setting up factory production. Even the forum is impossible to reach. Guess I'll just wait for the refresh on the new server and hope accessibility is back to normal.

I was having this issue yesterday. My assumption was it is the server because I had no issues visiting any other websites.

[GreenGoo]

Ok, both answers I was hoping for. Good stuff.

[Semaj]

The Semaj Report:
Current amount: 12 Companies... twitch... No help... Steisser got busy and I dont blame him, lol

Company 1: Big Dreams: think of one of those food production companies that was made to fill a supermarket/most food items that will now be noticably less cool.
Sales: down to 47 million from 66 I didnt realize how much sales would drop with a farmers market and cafe on the big upgrades (168 hours) But it should pay off in a week.
Noticable changes: up to 500m net worth in company, even with an average of about 20ish million a day in construction still been profitable for a week straight.

Now my bakery pies are starting to turn a very good profit. Food in general has had an upswing recently.

Company 2: Dependable Mining. Current Value: 914m, stock price: 60ish
After buying them out a bit back with ~60 million at a $2-3 average, they have slowly progressed into a solid money maker. 178m in store sales, 30 m in b2b. I cant spend the money as quickly as it is coming in. This is a good problem to have. a week off from a big automotive store upgrade, 2 days off from a big industrial store upgrade. A few more upgrades being done in other areas. I really wonder if I should get into car construction to go with my electronical makings.

Company 3: Ford Industries: Current value: 144m
This is my automotive startup company. After an initial investment of around 120 million, maybe 140. One store came online 3 days in. It hit 111 million yesterday in sales. Yup. Research is upgrading to around 2-300 each. Factories upgrades will be started shortly. I expect to spend a week turning over on the import/export market while I set my factories up right and research the hell out of car and car making while still turning a good profit.

Company 4: Gold Dealer: Current Value: 192 million, Stock Price: $18
Inside of a day or two I should have 25+ quality jewelry in every category. The factories need to be upgraded, the research needs to be upgraded, but with 2600m^2 in jewelry store space currently available and 900 more about to come online. I turn a LOT of jewelry. 60-70 million a day at the moment. Soon prolly closer to 100 million.

Company 5: its Not just any food: Value: 1.6 Billion, Stock price: 6.03
I sell less product every day. I updgrade my stores, I upgrade everything and catch up on research. Yet somehow my stock has gone up 6000% since I took over Soon it'll normalise... my guess is around 30-40 bucks min. At which poitn I'll start spending more time making sure stores are filled.

Company 6: Mining R Us: Current Value: 600m
One of Stessiers old manged companies. After starting out a big miner, with electricity, water and industrial stores. I thought it might be ideal to move into jewelry. I only currently have 3 stores up with a combined total of 694m^2 But in about a week 3100m^2 will come online. 23 million in store sales, 50 million in B2B sales. I will be supplying electricity and water in large amounts while stores come around.

Company 7: Nanyboy Inc. Current Value: 904m
My original company, i learned a lot about what not to do and what to do with this guy. I make everything from food to drinks to electronics to airplanes on this guy. Only 100m in sales today, but 3 stores with a estimated 3400m^2 of store space will be online inside 2 days. Then my sales go through the roof.

Company 8: Oonteg. Current Value: 242m Stock Price: 1.97
After several company head died horrible deatsh there was a vaccume I quickly jumped into. With this company I realised they had a very Food setup... without any store space. So I have spent 2 days trying to increase store space to somethign respectable. When I wake up I should be near 1000m^2 in store space at which point I should start generating enough money to pay for everything I would like to do.

Company 9: Stygian Industries. Current Value: 2.07g Stock Price: 329
After may 9th, better known as Black Wednesday where we posted a loss of 60 million. The stock has steadily climbed back up and sales are now back up to 100-130 million a day. Two and a half days until 2 big store upgrades are done, adding 2k more meters of sales space. While this was occuring several factories also went through upgrades. I expect to see 200m store sales soon.

Company 10: The Supreme Court.
I made a dollar for my hard work

Company 11: Up and At em
I made this at the same time as mining R Us. It has passed nanyboy to be my best solely owned by me company. It sells airplanes, Toys, and appliances/hardware/electronics/furniture/linen stuff. it's the bastard child of "What happens if i start making THIS!"

Yet it works, 128m in store sales, 100m in profit. Whats up next: upgrading my toy factory, my toy store and trying to hit q30 on all my toys.

Company 12: vanderbutt industries: current value: 2.56m Stock Price: 300+

Re bought this company at about $30 a share and its been paying big dividends. Only sold 120m because I didnt destroy the B2B market like i did the previous day. I ahve about 4 billion in water and electricity I should probably put up. Instead I took it as a chance to upgrade the hell out of a lot fo things. 2 big store upgrades a couple major factory upgrades and some research upgrades. I am not sure how much better the stock should get it at all. But I'll enjoy the nice boost to my overall standing it's currently giving.

[stessier]

I really hope he isn't too far off on his estimation of the store change. I've got them running down to about 8 items and it's going to hurt me if the change doesn't kick in for another few days.

[Semaj]

I still stock my stores fully. When it goes down to 8 ima be a sad panda.

So anyways... How has rigapples never gotten nailed in all the shenanigans that have occured. He is still laying waste to companies he finds. I just grabbed one I saw potential in.. that rig was manning and see this:
B2B sales:
Polyester 30.00 2 $3.20 $6.40 Ball Mart Industrial 2012-05-12 19:09:22

Yeah polyester currently up for 32 for quality ~15

Petroleum 32.00 20,427 $75.00 $1,532,025.00 Ball Mart Industrial 2012-05-12 19:07:46

Only silly buy I see him doing... lol, must have meant 7.50

Polyester Thread 30.00 691,729 $5.00 $3,458,645.00 Ball Mart Sports 2012-05-12 19:07:21

Currently selling for 25-30 700k x 20 = 14 million in lost revenue if sold at cheapest at market and this was quality 30, not quality 5 So he could have gotten closer to 30...

Golf Club Set 999.00 1 $1,500.00 $1,500.00 Ball Mart Sports 2012-05-12 19:06:18

Meh... whats he get for that... 50k in a store? 100k? i'll survive that one

Khaki Pants 25.00 13,679 $60.00 $820,740.00 Ball Mart Apparel 2012-05-12 19:05:55

Dont know a good price for em, but they sell for 330 in a store right now by world average. This also kills all Khaki pants in their main store industry

Jeans 25.00 4,283 $80.00 $342,640.00 Ball Mart Apparel 2012-05-12 19:05:54

Sells for 560 by world store average. All jeans now gone, none for the store.

Gloves 11.00 49,761 $7.50 $373,207.50 Ball Mart Apparel 2012-05-12 19:05:24

Sells for 70 in the store, 27 on the market. No more gloves to sell in the store.

Chemicals 15.00 31,770 $1.50 $47,655.00 Ball Mart Industrial 2012-05-12 19:04:44

Seriously? 10 bucks on b2b.


Athletic Jacket 25.00 3,402 $50.00 $170,100.00 Ball Mart Apparel 2012-05-12 19:04:08

Bleh... you get the idea.

friggin idjits...

[noxiousdog]

Any buying opportunities? Have some cash lying around. ND, what's happening with FRONTA? It dropped off the face of the planet and while it's slowly making its way back up, I figured it was a bug or something. What's the deal?

Yep. I think it got hit because it didn't have positive earnings over the last 7 days. It's going back up and the 1st day of my 72 hour production cycle will be up on the b2b tomorrow.

[GreenGoo]

Ah, I didn't/don't understand the valuing of public companies. Sounds like you got hit by a funky bit of algorithm?

I'm not complaining, just curious.

[noxiousdog]

Ah, I didn't/don't understand the valuing of public companies. Sounds like you got hit by a funky bit of algorithm?

I'm not complaining, just curious.

I think so. He changed it right after FRONTA went public. I talked about it earlier in the thread a bit.

[Matrix]

Rigapples is actually a robot, BallC is programer and Rigapples is auto trader.

[GreenGoo]

Ah, I didn't/don't understand the valuing of public companies. Sounds like you got hit by a funky bit of algorithm?

I'm not complaining, just curious.

I think so. He changed it right after FRONTA went public. I talked about it earlier in the thread a bit.

I saw it, but expected Scott to "fix" it by now. I didn't understand what caused it in the first place, other than Scott was making changes to the company valuation methodology. I didn't think FRONTA was exploiting anything so I expected it to return to a reasonable value shortly after.

[Rip]

Yeah, he likes his shenanigans somewhat. Got me to buy up control of some companies cheap. Said he was trying something or another then came back and bought back control. I sold off a lot but still hold some.

One of them I even control that has a full load of almost 700m^2 aircraft brokers building. Like 2 days left. He has barely less than me and I expect he is planning on buying back a bunch more right before they finish.

In the end this run is all out of whack anyways and I have slacked off a little. Although still doing well. Anxious to get going on the new server. Been spending more time thinking about what I might do there than actually doing much in the current game. I have like $2B in cash and haven't even thought of spending it.

[Kraken]

I still stock my stores fully. When it goes down to 8 ima be a sad panda.

I abandoned my company a few days ago, right after everything in my warehouse suddenly became Q30 and I found out about the upcoming store restrictions. The game just became more exasperating than fun for me.

Maybe I'll rejoin after the restart.

[LordMortis]

I still stock my stores fully. When it goes down to 8 ima be a sad panda.

I abandoned my company a few days ago, right after everything in my warehouse suddenly became Q30 and I found out about the upcoming store restrictions. The game just became more exasperating than fun for me.

Maybe I'll rejoin after the restart.

I spend about 5 to 10 minutes on it a day. I might give it more consideration after the restart. Right now I check in the morning while doing other stuff. I check in before I go to bed. At those two times I take a minute or two to make sure all is right with the world and organize my business on a quick level run through everything. Then through out the day while on the Internet doing other stuff, I glance to make sure nothing is sold out. If it is then I multiply by last sales tick by 200 and buy that amount from b2b if reasonable or on import if available.

[Semaj]

Why would anyone buy a supermarket?

You can have a farmers market for 1 thing, a cafe for another and a food court for a third. Upgrades are way cheaper and you no longer have the advantage of selling multiple items.

[stessier]

Looks like the 16th is the day the store shelves change.

[LordMortis]

Why would anyone buy a supermarket?

You can have a farmers market for 1 thing, a cafe for another and a food court for a third. Upgrades are way cheaper and you no longer have the advantage of selling multiple items.

That's a good question. It would require a better understanding of the math in salable items at each kind of store but I suspect you are right.

[Semaj]

the queue system is bugged.

Training to Q33 in Army normally (even if it adds it to a queue of training army men): 68k
Training to Q33 in Army men if you use the "queue up another one": 2 million

[Semaj]

and if you x it out on the right you dont get the money back? 0.o

Interesting... heh

[noxiousdog]

Ah, I didn't/don't understand the valuing of public companies. Sounds like you got hit by a funky bit of algorithm?

I'm not complaining, just curious.

I think so. He changed it right after FRONTA went public. I talked about it earlier in the thread a bit.

I saw it, but expected Scott to "fix" it by now. I didn't understand what caused it in the first place, other than Scott was making changes to the company valuation methodology. I didn't think FRONTA was exploiting anything so I expected it to return to a reasonable value shortly after.

It's not broken as much as just a different algorithm. Since 7-day EPS was negative, it valued the company significantly worse. That's fine. I would too on a public scale at first glance, and there's no real way to know whether I was mismanaging it or intentionally destroying it by just looking at easy metrics.

[noxiousdog]

The financial statements have been broken in two, so I can't do quarterly reports for a while.

[GreenGoo]

and if you x it out on the right you dont get the money back? 0.o

Interesting... heh

Crap. I saw some of my R&D in the 100,000's but I didn't think much of it.

I can't afford that.

edit: Just confirmed/adding corroboration. Using the new interface shows over $100k for R&D. Kicking back to the old interface shows $12k for the same R&D.

Admittedly I didn't ACTUALLY check that the value being shown was deducted from my cash. It *could* just be a display error, but unlikely.

[Victoria Raverna]

This probably costed me several hundred millions.

Hopefully it was just a display error. I didn't pay attention so I don't know how much it deducted when I add to queue.

[LordMortis]

Haven't had a problem in a while. I set up huge queues of small cost R&D going out 70+ hours and they are always trivial. OTOH, before the timer was added, I'd have small R&Ds come up that were scheduled to take 100+ hours to complete and I'd always have to cancel.

[Silky]

I am now done with the game so if you have any shares of SMEG and care about money it is time to sell.

[docD]

I've gotten to busy with real life to keep playing. If anyone wants to take over Wild let me know and we can arrange a time to buy stock.

[Matrix]

I think the biggest problem was not the updates, but the delay between announcement that there will be wipe and the actual server transfer . Since game is significant commitment of time and mental attention. I think the sooner transfer happens the better, i also wouldnt keep 2 servers running, since it will create twice as much work for you with probably minimal benefits, since it would split players who are on old server and new server, and just in general create confusion. Considering that there are less then 500 players atm, this might be problematic. There is no way one person can do play on servers and still maintain sanity or have any free time.

[GreenGoo]

I am now done with the game so if you have any shares of SMEG and care about money it is time to sell.

Done. Thanks.

[noxiousdog]

I am now done with the game so if you have any shares of SMEG and care about money it is time to sell.

Done. Thanks.

Buying a billion worth of FRONT made the price rise (temporarily) a bit.

[Semaj]

he fixed the add to queue thing.

I dont want to think about the money lost, lol.

[Semaj]

lol

That company i bought a controlling share in and saw ballmarts massive cheats... someone else bought more shares of and then sells the 2 1k apparel stores..... i

*sigh*

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BAD AT THIS?

Ima make my own damn companies... like 12 of em... and show him how it's done... jerk...