Divinity: Original Sin

[tgb]

Does anyone know if there is a way to change the color of the font used for subtitles? That white text can be really hard to read against a light background, like the beach.

[IceBear]

Creator Larian Studios LLC 16 minutes ago
Hey folks, we're expecting the GOG keys to go live tomorrow, sorry for the inconvenience.

[IceBear]

BTW, I also saw this posted regarding DRM and Steam:

Yes, developers have confirmed that you can install the game, then uninstall steam, and then still run the game.

[IceBear]

Creator Larian Studios LLC 16 minutes ago
Hey folks, we're expecting the GOG keys to go live tomorrow, sorry for the inconvenience.

Seeing reports from people that they are downloading from GoG now.

[MonkeyFinger]

Any sign of a digital manual somewhere?

[IceBear]

No, no manual, but the game does a good job of explaining stuff as you play

[MonkeyFinger]

Sure, but the Kickstarter (which I backed) specifically says "Digital copies come with a digital manual". Perhaps soon...

[Madmarcus]

So far I'm finding some of story to be a little off in tone. The morality debates between the source hunters are decent but I'm finding some of the companion banter a little too conscious of game mechanics for my taste.

[JCC]

Are there any alternative movement controls? I find the Ulitma VII style not really suitable when the GUI keeps getting in my way....

[MonkeyFinger]

Is anyone else missing letters from the dialogue text? The combat log shows everything correctly but the version that appears over the characters is curiously missing all of the m's.

[tgb]

I started my first game with a Fighter and a Cleric and played a little past the tutorial dungeon just to get the lay of the land. Now I want to restart with a more interesting character combination. Suggestions?

[RMC]

I started my first game with a Fighter and a Cleric and played a little past the tutorial dungeon just to get the lay of the land. Now I want to restart with a more interesting character combination. Suggestions?

I am playing with a Knight and a Mage. They seem to have a good combination. But really just started and only got to the first city.

Thanks.

[MonkeyFinger]

Is anyone else missing letters from the dialogue text? The combat log shows everything correctly but the version that appears over the characters is curiously missing all of the m's.

This turns out to be an issue with one of the video settings. No clue which one as I went into the NVIDIA control panel and switched visual options from "Use my preference emphasizing: Quality" to "Let the 3D application decide" and things are fine now.

[Jag]

I started my first game with a Fighter and a Cleric and played a little past the tutorial dungeon just to get the lay of the land. Now I want to restart with a more interesting character combination. Suggestions?

I am playing with a Knight and a Mage. They seem to have a good combination. But really just started and only got to the first city.

Thanks.

Regarding starting classes, you get 2 companions as soon as you visit the city. I'll spoil it below but it may help determine what classes you make so you don't overlap:

Spoiler:

2H Fighter and Enchanter.

Also the manual is up.

[tgb]

Also the manual is up.

I had to look twice and think for a moment when I saw that you had linked to a DOS manual.

[Matrix]

Started with Witch and (rogue class that kills mages). Only put few minutes into it, but graphic is looking pretty sweet. I am glad they got turn based combat model of fighting.

[baelthazar]

Are there any alternative movement controls? I find the Ulitma VII style not really suitable when the GUI keeps getting in my way....

There is a little "lock" button on the GUI boxes that says "Allow Click Through" or something like that. If you do that, you can click in the dialog boxes and not select the box but instead click on the terrain.

[Boudreaux]

Are there any alternative movement controls? I find the Ulitma VII style not really suitable when the GUI keeps getting in my way....

There is a little "lock" button on the GUI boxes that says "Allow Click Through" or something like that. If you do that, you can click in the dialog boxes and not select the box but instead click on the terrain.

There are also buttons that allow you to hide the GUI components entirely. The $%@# chat window in the lower left was driving me crazy until I figured that out. I turned off the message log in the lower right as well, it's much better now.

[Cylus Maxii]

I started last night with a Wizard and Ranger team. I've just done the tutorial dungeon since I was waiting for the manual. I like that class combo thus far. I'll definitely have to find out how to hide the chat/log windows - those were hitching me up as well.

I'm not impressed by the performance so far. It seems like its very uneven and that the path finding is off. I also wish it scrolled a lot smoother, especially in combat. I let it auto-detect the settings and its pretty much maxed out - I may have to turn it down.

[Exodor]

When I setup my party I chose 'none' for the AI - so instead of arguing with my other half I just choose both conversation options. Is there a way to change that after starting?

I'm only an hour or so into the game so I may just restart.

[baelthazar]

I started last night with a Wizard and Ranger team. I've just done the tutorial dungeon since I was waiting for the manual. I like that class combo thus far. I'll definitely have to find out how to hide the chat/log windows - those were hitching me up as well.

I'm not impressed by the performance so far. It seems like its very uneven and that the path finding is off. I also wish it scrolled a lot smoother, especially in combat. I let it auto-detect the settings and its pretty much maxed out - I may have to turn it down.

I turned by FSAA off and my shadows to medium and found the performance jumped considerably. The game still looks fantastic, and I can barely tell the difference.

[Cylus Maxii]

I'll try those tweaks when I get home. Thanks!

[JCC]

Are there any alternative movement controls? I find the Ulitma VII style not really suitable when the GUI keeps getting in my way....

There is a little "lock" button on the GUI boxes that says "Allow Click Through" or something like that. If you do that, you can click in the dialog boxes and not select the box but instead click on the terrain.

Thanks! I'll give that a try.

[tgb]

There are also buttons that allow you to hide the GUI components entirely. The $%@# chat window in the lower left was driving me crazy until I figured that out. I turned off the message log in the lower right as well, it's much better now.

Where? I didn't see anything like that in the options menu.

[edit] Never mind. I found it.

[Lordnine]

Today I learned that grave robbing is wrong. Very very bad. Don’t do it!

[tgb]

Be aware that some of the quests are time-sensitive

Spoiler:

By the time I got back to the burning ship with the rain spell it was too late.

[TheMix]

Everyone feel free to tell me that I'm an idiot. Moron would be appropriate too. I'd even accept stupid.

I never bothered reading this thread because somewhere along the way I assumed this was the latest in the Divine Divinity line. So I figured no big deal.

I totally missed that this is an old-school turn-based RPG. I finally checked out the Steam page just to see what the excitement was. </facepalm>

Guess I'll start reading along and drooling until I eventually pick it up.

Edit: I guess it is the latest. But I didn't realize it moved to party TBS.

[RMC]

Everyone feel free to tell me that I'm an idiot. Moron would be appropriate too. I'd even accept stupid.

I never bothered reading this thread because somewhere along the way I assumed this was the latest in the Divine Divinity line. So I figured no big deal.

I totally missed that this is an old-school turn-based RPG. I finally checked out the Steam page just to see what the excitement was. </facepalm>

Guess I'll start reading along and drooling until I eventually pick it up.

Edit: I guess it is the latest. But I didn't realize it moved to party TBS.

Don't feel bad, I thought it was a diablo clone or something akin to it. Then I actually read this thread because it was on sale... And uh..oops.

Great game so far. Join us...

[TheMix]

Suuurrrrreeee... now that I've missed the sale.

I'm onto you...

(I will resist. I will be strong. I will resist. I will be strong....)

[Cylus Maxii]

Be aware that some of the quests are time-sensitive

Spoiler:

By the time I got back to the burning ship with the rain spell it was too late.

On the other hand - you can get at least two of those scrolls before that quest; I found one in the starter dungeon.

[tgb]

Be aware that some of the quests are time-sensitive

Spoiler:

By the time I got back to the burning ship with the rain spell it was too late.

On the other hand - you can get at least two of those scrolls before that quest; I found one in the starter dungeon.

In my current game I skipped the tutorial dungeon - perhaps that was a mistake. Also I think outside of that dungeon a lot of the loot is randomized.

One thing I just discovered is that gold is not pooled - each party member has their own stash depending on what they've picked up and bartered. I guess that's in keeping with co-op play, but it was kind of counter-intuitive.

[tru1cy]

Be aware that some of the quests are time-sensitive

Spoiler:

By the time I got back to the burning ship with the rain spell it was too late.

On the other hand - you can get at least two of those scrolls before that quest; I found one in the starter dungeon.

In my current game I skipped the tutorial dungeon - perhaps that was a mistake. Also I think outside of that dungeon a lot of the loot is randomized.

One thing I just discovered is that gold is not pooled - each party member has their own stash depending on what they've picked up and bartered. I guess that's in keeping with co-op play, but it was kind of counter-intuitive.

This... I wish money was pooled

[tgb]

Be aware that some of the quests are time-sensitive

Spoiler:

By the time I got back to the burning ship with the rain spell it was too late.

On the other hand - you can get at least two of those scrolls before that quest; I found one in the starter dungeon.

In my current game I skipped the tutorial dungeon - perhaps that was a mistake. Also I think outside of that dungeon a lot of the loot is randomized.

One thing I just discovered is that gold is not pooled - each party member has their own stash depending on what they've picked up and bartered. I guess that's in keeping with co-op play, but it was kind of counter-intuitive.

This... I wish money was pooled

My biggest nit-pick is the whole inventory system. With no encumbrance model, no idea early on what's important and what's not, and lots of stuff to find (the game could have been called Divinity - The Crate And Barrel Searching Simulator), I find my party carrying a ton of shit around with no easy way to organize it.

[tru1cy]

I love the old school nature of the game, but some of the game play features could be simplified or better explained. Example I started collecting a bunch of crap that are obviously crafting materials. Issue is that the game doesn't give you a crafting tutorial, so basically, I'm stuck with a bunch of stuff that I'm not certain I should sell. Selling crap is a pain

Next the mapping is okay, but when I find a place the map should auto notate it without me having to do it.

Combat is fun nonetheless and the open nature of the game is great..

Game is a few patches away from being great

[Jag]

I love the old school nature of the game, but some of the game play features could be simplified or better explained. Example I started collecting a bunch of crap that are obviously crafting materials. Issue is that the game doesn't give you a crafting tutorial, so basically, I'm stuck with a bunch of stuff that I'm not certain I should sell. Selling crap is a pain

Next the mapping is okay, but when I find a place the map should auto notate it without me having to do it.

Combat is fun nonetheless and the open nature of the game is great..

Game is a few patches away from being great

If you go to the inventory tabs on the side, it will group your items by type. I think it is equipped, equipment, consumables, ingredients, magic, keys and misc. The inventory system is not great, but I've learned to live with it. You can carry alot before you hit the encumbrance limit for your character.

Crafting is learned through both trial and error and books. So read the books you find (or steal) and it will put the crafting recipe in your journal. Otherwise it's trial and error. Want to make a spear? Combine a stick and a dagger.

[tru1cy]

How do you combine cause dragging a dropping doesn't seem to work

[Jag]

How do you combine cause dragging a dropping doesn't seem to work

Either its the wrong combo or your crafting skill isn't high enough, a floater box will show that over the character. Some have to be further modified like bone in a mortar and pestle. Read the tooltips too.

Here's one way to craft for profit. Try stealing a pillow. A Pillow is a measly 3 Gold Pieces, not much to consider. However put a Knife to that Pillow and you end up with a Feather which doesn't use up weight and is worth 8 Gold Pieces.

But wait! We're not done! Take that same knife you have to those Feathers! and turn them into Quills which now have a value of 30!

This game most definitely does not hold your hand, but I like that.

And make sure you have Pet Pal. So many funny things to talk to animals about. Also having a character with some thievery makes the game a bit easier with gold.

[Jag]

Here's a post I found with some examples on how to use the environment as well:


A main thing to focus on however is the Dynamic spell system that reacts to the environment

You can for example using a Spell Caster Cast a Rain Spell that will create an AoE zone of enemies getting wet if they stand in this zone. Also puddles will form on the ground.

The Chill spell normally slows enemies, However if they are Wet Status, Chill becomes Freeze and the enemy is paralyzed until they thaw.

Going back to the earlier example of water puddles created from the Rain Spell. If you cast shock magic on these puddles. They will electrify anyone standing targeted puddle and may stun them on top of electrical damage.

There is other combinations too. Using Fire on Rain puddles to create scalding steam which obfuscates enemy vision. Or use Poison on Steam to make a Gas Cloud. Cast Fire on a Gas Cloud to ignite it and burn anyone in the haze.

There is also a Oil spell that slows enemy movement similar to Chill. Oil also leaves puddles like Rain does, and you can naturally ignite Oil to make a puddle of fire to create impeding barriers enemies will need to traverse.

Using these strategies also applies to Warriors or Archers with Elemental Arrows with the environment.

Like having a Warrior strike a water barrel with sword to break it and create a flood a specific area. And have the Archer use Shock Arrows on the puddle create an electrified field instead of spell casting doing it.

I just love this game.

[baelthazar]

I agree with Jag. In many ways, the lack of hand-holding makes me feel like this is a true successor to the Ultima series. Ultima never told you that you could click on a flour sack, get a pile of flour, click-use water on it to make dough, click-use a roller on it to make a loaf and then pop it next to a fire to cook bread. But you could do all those things. And the first time I did it I just about freaked out (back then, that type of interactivity was pretty rare). Being able to drop some rain, then electrocute everything or put down some oil and then set it on fire really gives me a classic RPG (almost PnP D&D) feel.

I'm really loving the game. I've probably put a few hours into it and I've not really even left the town. Loads of people to talk to, things to do, places to see.

My map does seem to auto-generate points of interest, so I'm not exactly sure about that complaint. It is largely things like "Inn" and "Legion HQ," but it does help.

[tgb]

My map does seem to auto-generate points of interest, so I'm not exactly sure about that complaint. It is largely things like "Inn" and "Legion HQ," but it does help.

The map doesn't auto-label important buildings until you enter them. Once the name appears on the main screen it becomes notated on the map, which makes sense considering you earn so much experience just through exploration.