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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by Skinypupy » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:07 pm

The social aspect has been my primary concern. While she’s having a blast with the gameplay (at low levels, at least), there’s still the reality that she’s a 9 year old playing a game populated almost exclusively by adults. She’s been a little disappointed that I’ve tamped down the random Free Company (guild) invites she’s received. We’ve had the talk a hundred times about not telling strangers anything about yourself, not telling them you’re a girl, etc, but she still gets so excited about the possibility of interacting with other real people. While the FF XIV community is generally a good one overall, it certainly still has its fair share of assholes. She’ll be crushed when she discovers that.

Helps that she’s playing on PS4 (the game is cross play between console and PC), and I haven’t told her yet that you can use a keyboard to chat. Not terribly worried about her slowly typing out messages on the controller. :)
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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by GreenGoo » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:13 pm

All my kids are like lightning on the keyboard. Even my fine motor skill-challenged son. None of them use the home row, or even more than 2 fingers on each hand, but they are fast, especially my daughter, and that makes me happy. Being fast on a keyboard is potentially important no matter what they do with their lives.

They are all still in awe of their old man though. :P

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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by Fretmute » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:14 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
dbt1949 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:44 pm
I finally got 7000 hours in Civ 5.
Holy shit. :o

The most time I’ve ever spent with a single game is Final Fantasy XIV, and that’s barely at 1,300 hours.
I’m nearing 6000 in Dota 2.

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Post by jztemple2 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:40 pm

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Post by Kasey Chang » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:25 pm

Playing Silent Storm Sentinels. I've actually NEVER finished that game, and I decided to turn on the cheat and play it to the end, and, f*** this game is hard even with the cheat on. It's as if they took the mission difficulty in Silent Storm and turned it up to 11.

By mission 10, I'm actually seeing Panzerkleins (yes, person-sized power armor in 1940's). They are also in original SS, but it's sorta explanable. In here? It's more like WTF? Was everybody supposed to carry a bazooka?

Just finished the "defend base" mission. I have a team of six, plus a few extra defenders, 4 in the trenches, 3 in reserve. Plus a couple in the towers. I was rushed by 10 regulars, and 3 PK's, then a super PK (with beam rifles), then a second wave of 8 regulars with 3 Hammer PKs (the red ones back in original SS). The sucky part about PK is they are heavily armored, and only Armor Piercing bullets works. SMGs and pistols are useless. Rifle, LMG, and rockets would work. There are a few fixed guns but they can't swivel far enough to hit the PKs. And there aren't enough AT weapons around. I basically ended plinking the PKs to death with everybody on rifle or LMG. Lucky for me, I did buy a beam rifle for the LMG guy so he used that. Blew up 5 PKs (too much damage to salvage), manage to keep two when I forced the pilot to eject from two near the beginning.

Without the cheat code I'd have died several times over.

And even then, I managed to kill 3 engineers. One I accidentally killed when the box he opened blew up, took out the floor he's on, and the game decided he should die, even with godmode on. Recruited a replacement, forgot to turn godmode on again, and the same for the third guy. Hahaha!
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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by Redfive » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:25 pm

dbt1949 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:44 pm
I finally got 7000 hours in Civ 5.
What's sadder than that is there are thousands of people out there with more.
If my math is correct , and I'm being generous, that is 2.7 hours every single day since it was released.
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Post by dbt1949 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:48 pm

I didn't start plying it till two years after it came out. But still, it's been out there a long time.
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Post by Kasey Chang » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:11 am

Continued playing S3 (Silent Storm Sentinels). Suddenly I have to raise 100K to get the enemy base's position? WTF? Where's the money going to? (EDIT: Turns out it's going to a traitor of a traitor, hahaha) I'm at about 70K, but there's not too much ways to raise money outside of missions. Typical missions only pay a few thousand, random encounters pay nothing except loot, which basically means I have to leave all the good weapons behind, leaving just the bare minimum (one gun per person, no grenades) and just loot everything I can get my hands on.

EDIT: FInished. It was okay. The big mission was indeed big... Have to fight a bunch of robots (i.e. PK's with no person inside, but like triple armored). The end was rather satisfying if a bit tedious. At least now I can say I "finished" it. Didn't care about the score, but then, I'm mainly here for the experience.
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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by Fardaza » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:47 am

Redfive wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:25 pm
dbt1949 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:44 pm
I finally got 7000 hours in Civ 5.
What's sadder than that is there are thousands of people out there with more.
If my math is correct , and I'm being generous, that is 2.7 hours every single day since it was released.
I also have to remember that all our hours played include time with the game running on-screen, but I'm eating, or watching a football game in the other room, or something else. It's not all glued to the computer time.

Maybe I can convince myself that that's really why I have so many hours in some of these games. :roll:

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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by Glycerine » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:37 am

Blackhawk wrote:Starting your PC reduces its lifespan. True - 25 years ago. Like so many others, it became 'common knowledge' that never got updated. Anything newer and leaving it on is more harmful than shutting it down/restarting it, as the heat is worse than the restart.

It also costs a lot more.
Absolutely not correct at all, except for the “costs more” part. I’ve worked in IT for 23 years, manage a team of techs in multiple parts of the country, and it’s still true today as it was when I started. These machines are designed to be turned on and left on. If you have a thermal problem to the point that heat can eventually cause damage to other components then shutting it off isn’t going to fix that problem, it will only delay the inevitable outcome. Look at any major corporation and see how many have their thousands upon thousands of employees actually turn their computers off at night. In my entire career I can’t think of a single one, and I’ve worked for some of the largest companies in the world.

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Post by Paingod » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 am

The big difference between corporations and home users is the necessity for overnight patching. I have all my users leave their PC's on all the time so I can patch, update, fix, and tinker after-hours. At home, my PC is off except for when I'm actively on it. It's a waste of power to leave my PC on for the 20 hours a day I'm not using it. It's an acceptable business expense to leave on 1000 computers so they can be managed remotely after-hours.

As far as strictly computer longevity for home users? I don't think there's any benefit either way. Leave them on, turn them off. Lifespan will pretty much stay the same - but the home user has no business case to justify the cost in electricity. I can say the desktops I use at work that are on all the time start to fail increasingly often after year 5, but I'm also buying lower-grade systems to fit the business budget. A $2,500 developer station will likely still tick along 12 years later.

The great debate over leaving them on vs. turning them off isn't settled. The answer is firmly "It Depends"

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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by dbt1949 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:23 am

When I play a game I quit it when I leave the computer except for bathroom and snack breaks.
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Post by Blackhawk » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:41 am

Glycerine wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:37 am
Blackhawk wrote:Starting your PC reduces its lifespan. True - 25 years ago. Like so many others, it became 'common knowledge' that never got updated. Anything newer and leaving it on is more harmful than shutting it down/restarting it, as the heat is worse than the restart.

It also costs a lot more.
Absolutely not correct at all, except for the “costs more” part. I’ve worked in IT for 23 years, manage a team of techs in multiple parts of the country, and it’s still true today as it was when I started. These machines are designed to be turned on and left on. If you have a thermal problem to the point that heat can eventually cause damage to other components then shutting it off isn’t going to fix that problem, it will only delay the inevitable outcome. Look at any major corporation and see how many have their thousands upon thousands of employees actually turn their computers off at night. In my entire career I can’t think of a single one, and I’ve worked for some of the largest companies in the world.
And yet I've seen other experts say the exact opposite, in the context of high-abuse gaming systems rather than rows of office machines. And I've seen experts that say the same thing you have. What I haven't seen is serious research and tests either way, and when I really dug into it (over a year ago now), the larger contingent seemed to lean toward 'shut them down.' Also, I wasn't talking about a thermal problem. I was talking about the effects of thirty seconds of startup juice on the overall lifespan of components compared to the the effects of heat from idling for twelve hours. In the 90s the idea you always heard was that starting up a system was so hard on components that you were better off leaving it on.

In either case, it probably doesn't matter. The lifespan of components are long enough that neither is likely to have much of a meaningful impact (kind of like early SSDs vs modern SSDs.) You'll replace components long before the reduction in lifespan from starting up or leaving on would catch up with you.
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Post by jztemple2 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:11 pm

Paingod wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 am
I advise people to just do whatever makes them happy.
Great advice at any time :clap:

I imagine that the environment the machine is kept in might have more impact. We live in Florida in a house that is air conditioned and humidity controlled year round. My rig is five years old, my wife's rig is seven, and both are used quite a lot, almost every day, except when we are gone on vacation. Neither of them have had any problems whatsoever. It makes me think back to the days when hard drives were expected to last about a year or so before replacement.

My biggest issue right now is going to be making my wife understand that she really does have to switch to Win10 by next January :roll:
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Re: PC Gaming Randomness

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:04 pm

This is like arguing whether semis, pickup trucks, muscle cars and electric scooters all behave the same way or have the same rules on operation.

A heavily overclocked system is going to break earlier than one that isn't, no matter how much cooling it has, even when load is not a factor. It's possible that turning one system off (particularly if it's off for long periods of time. If you only use your gaming machine once every few days, it makes no sense to leave it running) will preserve its life, and leaving another on will do the same.

Systems designed for reliability under heavy load are almost certainly more stable and longer lived when left on.

There is no hard and fast rule for motor vehicles, and there isn't one for computers. Personally, barring infrequent usage, a non-overclocked gaming system can be left on for years without significantly shortening its life. MTTF isn't going to change much for most components, especially if there is no heavy load going on when the system is on but not in use. This is what Paingod said. I'd counter the electrical bill with the low draw an unused system will pull, particularly if in power saver mode. Sure, it's more than when it's off. Is it enough to matter? Depends on your definition of "matter" I guess.

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Post by MonkeyFinger » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:28 am

Right, do whatever makes sense to you. For us, I can't even recall the last time the computers here have been turned fully "off off"... perhaps during one of the crazy way-too-close lightning storms we get once in a great while. Otherwise, they're sleeping, waking up on demand or in the middle of the night for patching and/or backups as needed.
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Post by Kasey Chang » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:01 pm

I don't turn off my laptop... ever. It only goes to sleep mode, and I reboot as needed. Sometimes it reboots and went to sleep (hibernate) by itself and I had to turn it on in the morning, but I never voluntarily turn it off. But then, I have a bottom cooler, an exhaust fan, and a personal fan all blowing on that thing. :) Probably one more reason it needs a replacement ASAP. Hahaha! But then, the laptop was released in, 2009? 2010? Somewhere thereabouts. I already burned up one laptop (I had a Toshiba laptop that died while playing an FPS) then. Hahaha. :)
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Post by Cylus Maxii » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:01 pm

Another IT professional here. Regarding shutdown of PC - at work it stays on for patching, at home I turn it off. I'm not concerned about thermal wear-and-tear.

At home, I'm concerned about security and compromise. My home network is significantly less secure than my work one is. Even if I have my own router/Firewall, and keep it locked down tight and up to date. Even if I use port security and have hidden SSID, and have ridiculous complex passwords that get changed several times a year. Even if I do consistent patching and AV scans and backups for my PC. Work has for more robust security and constant monitoring. I turn off my home PC when I'm not using it; it is set to not wake on LAN, mouse etc; and it does not reboot after power loss.
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Post by morlac » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:33 pm

MonkeyFinger wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:28 am
Right, do whatever makes sense to you. For us, I can't even recall the last time the computers here have been turned fully "off off"... perhaps during one of the crazy way-too-close lightning storms we get once in a great while. Otherwise, they're sleeping, waking up on demand or in the middle of the night for patching and/or backups as needed.
Gaming PC with SSD and Windows 10 pretty much boots to desktop in the amount of time it takes me to sit down in my desk chair after hitting the power button. I turn this one off more because of the instant boot up than previous generations where I would get annoyed if in a hurry for something. It's freaky fast.

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