That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
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That's not accurate. There's a Polygon article with a detailed account of the flood. "There were backups, and those allowed Hello Games to get back to work on Joe Danger Infiniy and No Man's Sky." They did lose pretty much all their stuff though, which is a huge deal for a tiny developer.ColdSteel wrote:They foolishly didn't have any code backups so had to pretty much start over.
Okay thanks for pointing that out. I was going off an article I saw immediately after the flood where I saw some quotes from them saying they didn't think they had any backups that weren't affected by the flood. Glad to see that they did.tiny ogre wrote:That's not accurate. There's a Polygon article with a detailed account of the flood. "There were backups, and those allowed Hello Games to get back to work on Joe Danger Infiniy and No Man's Sky." They did lose pretty much all their stuff though, which is a huge deal for a tiny developer.
Yeah, me too. It looks so good.tiny ogre wrote:I've been a little obsessed with this game since they announced it (apparently 1 year ago today).
which is interrupted quite oftenSmoove_B wrote:Apparently, an IGN exclusive -- an 18 minute video of uninterrupted game play.
The interview was an IGN exclusive. Is there really such a thing as an exclusive video on the internet?naednek wrote:don't think it's exclusive...
http://www.pcgamer.com/no-mans-sky-vide ... ploration/
No, it's coming out for PS4 and PC at the same time:Smoove_B wrote:I guess it's now a PS4 timed exclusive? Here's the latest trailer -- June 2016.
I believe they're deliberately trying to show off as few gameplay elements as possible in the videos, so there's a lot we haven't seen yet. The main developer hates talking about his games and would rather have people go in completely blind, so don't expect him to try and wow you more than absolutely necessary yet.naednek wrote:The more I see of this the more boring it looks. I think their scope is too big, and after the initial wow effect, I think it's going to get bland and boring real quick. It's a shame too, because technically, it looks great and could be really fun, but I think they just have too much handle.
Above, TiLT, Naednek, and Smoove_B posted videos with more information. There are also quite a few on YouTube. My wife was even a little exited to play after she saw the developer come on to The Late Show with Stephen Colbert and play the game for a few minutes. So there are plenty of avenues to learn more, if you are interested.Grifman wrote:Don't know enough about the game to pre-order. It sure looks purdy but beyond that it's a leap into the dark.
I've watched all of those videos - and a fair number of others - and they still don't tell me much about the game. I see ships landing on planets, exploring them, cataloging stuff, taking off, fleets of NPC ships fighting, etc. But to what end, to what purpose? What's the plot, why am I doing this, why should I care? Who is fighting who and why should I get involved - or not? And who do these fleets belong to? Are these just random or do they belong to empires I can interact with? Can I land on their worlds, trade with them, walk among their cities? Raid their cargo fleets, etc?baelthazar wrote:Above, TiLT, Naednek, and Smoove_B posted videos with more information. There are also quite a few on YouTube. My wife was even a little exited to play after she saw the developer come on to The Late Show with Stephen Colbert and play the game for a few minutes. So there are plenty of avenues to learn more, if you are interested.Grifman wrote:Don't know enough about the game to pre-order. It sure looks purdy but beyond that it's a leap into the dark.
Based on these remarks... never play Elite:Dangerous.Grifman wrote:I've watched all of those videos - and a fair number of others - and they still don't tell me much about the game. I see ships landing on planets, exploring them, cataloging stuff, taking off, fleets of NPC ships fighting, etc. But to what end, to what purpose? What's the plot, why am I doing this, why should I care? Who is fighting who and why should I get involved - or not? And who do these fleets belong to? Are these just random or do they belong to empires I can interact with? Can I land on their worlds, trade with them, walk among their cities? Raid their cargo fleets, etc?
Like I said, it all looks purdy but what the heck the game is really about is still rather vague. I'm not looking for them to give away the plot (assuming that there is one - is there - we don't really know) but right now, it's all a bit of a leap into the unknown.
In No Man's Sky you play as...someone. We don't know who that person is or what their motivations are or what their backstory says. And we won't find out. At least not until we get our hands on the game, and even then it's up to the player to discover what they can. "There is a lore to the universe and we adhere to that but we're not going to tell you," Murray said. "We're not going to describe it to you. You can read into that whatever you want. We're not going to tell you who you are or why you're there. We have our story."
When you start the game off as this...somebody, you start off with a ship. It can go as far as space but not deep into interstellar travel. To do that, you'll have to invest in bigger and better ships.
I asked Murray how you would go about "leveling up" to get better suits and weapons. "I could do it just by exploring," he said. "I could do it by taking guys out like this [Murray lifts his controller a bit to emphasize that he is flying in space and shooting other ships]. So if I go up to that fleet that was being attacked I could've joined in and attacked one of the freighters and get a little reward for that."
But do you have any friends in this world? Anyone who won't attack you and could even help you?
"We're not telling you, 'Oh this race is good, this race is bad,' or anything like that," Murray said. "You will find that, say, little things like the insignias on their ships, things like that, they're actually consistent. And you can read into that what you will and you will see consistencies in who seems to fight."
I can see naednek's point clearly, though. I love open world games, but there's usually a tipping point where the challenge is gone and all that's left is the grind to explore if you so choose. Exploration by itself can be fun, but how long you can do that depends largely on the pallet of the game. It's hard to create a story for yourself when the game responds to you in fairly generic ways consistently (ie: sending in more and more sentinels until you die). Just watching a demo video, a lot of the creatures started to look very same-y despite being different.TiLT wrote:I believe they're deliberately trying to show off as few gameplay elements as possible in the videos, so there's a lot we haven't seen yet. The main developer hates talking about his games and would rather have people go in completely blind, so don't expect him to try and wow you more than absolutely necessary yet.naednek wrote:The more I see of this the more boring it looks. I think their scope is too big, and after the initial wow effect, I think it's going to get bland and boring real quick. It's a shame too, because technically, it looks great and could be really fun, but I think they just have too much handle.
I'm more of a top fuelled guy myselfbaelthazar wrote:I'm super stocked still.
Yup. I mean...I hope that's wrong, but it just seems like there's a real potential to have a lot of fluff And that $60 price point is tough to swallow.GreenGoo wrote:My main concern, based on nothing really, is that a game of this scope cannot be made by a single developer and still be interesting and engaging. As Killbot suggests, the chances that 99% of the galaxy is just generic nothing seems like it would be high.
1) Isn't the price point for most game $60 these days?Smoove_B wrote:[Yup. I mean...I hope that's wrong, but it just seems like there's a real potential to have a lot of fluff And that $60 price point is tough to swallow.
For most AAA games, yes. And most offer a discount for pre-order. None is being offered for this game (at least through STEAM).Grifman wrote:1) Isn't the price point for most game $60 these days?
Also true. But it doesn't appear to be offered by them (or any other online reputable vendor) at this time. Amazon is only selling digital and boxed copies for the PS4. I will pay full price for Fallout. I will likely pay full price for Borderlands. But everything else? Wait and see. I've been burned too many times.2) No one ever has to pay $60 for a PC game. At a minimum, GMG always has a 20% off coupon, sometimes as high as 27% for newly releasing games.
FYI - If you preorder a physical disc version from Amazon Prime, PC or PS4, you automatically get 20% off.Smoove_B wrote:For most AAA games, yes. And most offer a discount for pre-order. None is being offered for this game (at least through STEAM).Grifman wrote:1) Isn't the price point for most game $60 these days?
Also true. But it doesn't appear to be offered by them (or any other online reputable vendor) at this time. Amazon is only selling digital and boxed copies for the PS4. I will pay full price for Fallout. I will likely pay full price for Borderlands. But everything else? Wait and see. I've been burned too many times.2) No one ever has to pay $60 for a PC game. At a minimum, GMG always has a 20% off coupon, sometimes as high as 27% for newly releasing games.
Fair point but, it's still early. I don't know of a PC game that GMG hasn't sold.Smoove_B wrote:Also true. But it doesn't appear to be offered by them (or any other online reputable vendor) at this time. Amazon is only selling digital and boxed copies for the PS4. I will pay full price for Fallout. I will likely pay full price for Borderlands. But everything else? Wait and see. I've been burned too many times.
Oh, I totally agree with this. I'm not buying this game until I see some reviews because both the developer and game are such huge unknowns. But whether it is pre-ordered or not is sort of a separate issue as to whether they should charge $60 for it.Smoove_B wrote:A fair point, but it's still only available for pre-order on Amazon for the PS4. I think my main issue is that this company has no track record for this level of delivery (the content of the game). They're essentially an unknown developer and most of this project has been held pretty close to the vest. It's a proprietary engine open world(s) RPG crafting bonanza. It might warrant a $60 price tag but my interest in handing over $45+ to an unknown developer making an entirely new type of game has long passed. I'm still very interested and I hope it's as cool as it seems. I'm just not your guy for early adoption.
GMG sometimes doesn't sell expansions for games and the occasional Electronic Arts game does not get put on there (I think they want to keep their hegemony using Origin). But I am fairly certain it will be on there.Grifman wrote:Fair point but, it's still early. I don't know of a PC game that GMG hasn't sold.Smoove_B wrote:Also true. But it doesn't appear to be offered by them (or any other online reputable vendor) at this time. Amazon is only selling digital and boxed copies for the PS4. I will pay full price for Fallout. I will likely pay full price for Borderlands. But everything else? Wait and see. I've been burned too many times.
And I haven't paid full price for a PC game in years. It's either a must to have new release via GMG or a later point in time from a Steam sales.
Isn't that Amazon Prime deal for physical copies only of the game? I thought I read somewhere that it was.baelthazar wrote:Just to reiterate what wonderpug said - if you are an Amazon Prime subscriber you get 20% off for preordering AND for 2 weeks after release. So you can feasibly wait for reviews if they come within 2 weeks and still get the 20%. Apparently (according to Humble) it is being sold as a Steam key, so I suspect Amazon will have that up at some point too.