Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:11 pm

No more "Augment Your Pre-Order" shenanigans:

Hi everyone! At both Square Enix and Eidos-Montréal, we’ve been listening to everything you’ve had to say about the Augment Your Pre-Order program. When it was first conceived, we wanted the program to give you more choice about what you received in terms of pre-order incentives - because we've seen in the past that when we choose those packages ourselves, and split them across regions, it has caused frustration. We quickly noticed that this approach created even more frustration than before, resulting in a resounding amount of negative feedback.

We’ve spent a lot of time reading through all of your comments, working to understand how we can try to make things right for you. After much thought and reflection, we decided to close down the program and make all of the incentive content available to anyone who pre-orders Deus Ex: Mankind Divided or purchases a Day 1 edition of the game. Additionally, the release date will no longer be changed in accordance with pre-order numbers, and everyone will gain access to the game on February 23rd, 2016.

Your feedback and input is of the utmost importance to us-- as it’s your loyalty and passion for our franchises that gives us the opportunity to continue providing you with great gaming experiences.

To our faithful fans who’ve already pre-ordered: we will be taking care of everything necessary to ensure that all of the changes to the program will be automatically applied to your purchase. Meanwhile, we'd like to thank everybody for their feedback - we know this wouldn't have happened with a game that nobody cared about, and we're just focusing now on delivering a game that lives up to your hopes and expectations.

Thanks for your support!

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:47 pm

Yeah, that was pretty dumb, if you need a FAQ to understand pre-order bonuses, something is wrong.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:06 pm

Trailer 2.0

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu May 26, 2016 12:35 pm

The Mechanical Apartheid (live-action story background trailer).

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:04 am

City-hub gameplay demo
Breach game mode - reveal trailer (VR-style hacking)
And apparently they are doing a Deus Ex GO mobile game (similar to Hitman GO, from the look of it).

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:27 pm

Very cool article about how open world the game is:

http://www.gamesradar.com/deus-ex-manki ... objective/

This sound really neat.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:10 pm

That article just confirmed my plan to pre-order. I love open world

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:14 pm

The game is gold. There would seem to be no obstacles to making the August 23rd release, except one. It's my wife's birthday and we will be on a trip. So I won't seeing the game till at least the following weekend

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:42 pm

Grifman wrote:Very cool article about how open world the game is:

http://www.gamesradar.com/deus-ex-manki ... objective/

This sound really neat.

Oh, very nice! As much as I liked HR, it didn't have a very open world. This seems more a return to original in terms of world design.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:36 pm

In case you might be tempted, Green Man Gaming has the game on sale to VIPs for 25% off. Not sure how much the discount is if you are not a VIP. I'm probably going to pre-order soon unless I see a red flag.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:54 pm

What is GMG's VIP?

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:16 am

Victoria Raverna wrote:What is GMG's VIP?

I'm not quite sure. I bought a few games through GMG and then suddenly I'm getting emails saying I'm a VIP. Also, when I look at games on their site, some of them have "VIP" in the upper left corner and (supposedly) I'm getting an extra discount because I'm a VIP. I've posted a question to them to ask what makes me a VIP (not that I'm complaining) and what are the benefits, other than the extra discount.

I did see that if you aren't a VIP you only get a 10% discount. So that's nice, I'm saving an extra $9 USD on the Standard Edition by being a VIP.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:30 am

jztemple2 wrote:
Victoria Raverna wrote:What is GMG's VIP?
I'm not quite sure. I bought a few games through GMG and then suddenly I'm getting emails saying I'm a VIP. Also, when I look at games on their site, some of them have "VIP" in the upper left corner and (supposedly) I'm getting an extra discount because I'm a VIP. I've posted a question to them to ask what makes me a VIP (not that I'm complaining) and what are the benefits, other than the extra discount.

I did see that if you aren't a VIP you only get a 10% discount. So that's nice, I'm saving an extra $9 USD on the Standard Edition by being a VIP.

I'm a VIP and like you, I don't understand why I'm a VIP. I thought everyone that have a GMG account is a VIP.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:22 am

This is the answer I got from GMG support:

Hello jztemple,

Thank you very much for your ticket.

You will receive special discounts when signed up to a VIP account, this is totally free to setup, you will see the lower prices when signed in.

If you have any further questions or queries, please reply to this ticket/email.

Kind regards,
Josh

Green Man Gaming & Playfire
Customer Service

OK... I don't remember signing up for a VIP account. Maybe you become a VIP if you do have an account. If you don't want to have an account, and just buy from them without registering, then I guess you don't get the additional VIP discount. So, Victoria Raverna, seems you are right, everyone (who has an account) is a VIP!

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:15 pm

Not to (slightly) derail the thread, but in a replay through Human Revolution, I found a funny little easter egg. Spoiler from the end of the Chinese area:

Spoiler:

I'm not that smart, so I'm sure a million other people found that, too. Just found it funny.

killbot737 · Post by **killbot737** » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:29 pm

jztemple2 wrote:This is the answer I got from GMG support:
Hello jztemple,

Thank you very much for your ticket.

You will receive special discounts when signed up to a VIP account, this is totally free to setup, you will see the lower prices when signed in.

If you have any further questions or queries, please reply to this ticket/email.

Kind regards,
Josh

Green Man Gaming & Playfire
Customer Service
OK... I don't remember signing up for a VIP account. Maybe you become a VIP if you do have an account. If you don't want to have an account, and just buy from them without registering, then I guess you don't get the additional VIP discount. So, Victoria Raverna, seems you are right, everyone (who has an account) is a VIP!

I just logged in and sho'nuff I see the discount. Who's the master?

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:18 pm

Launch trailer.

We were all created equal… But in 2029, after the Aug incident which caused the death of millions, mankind stands divided. The oppression of the mechanically augmented has created a climate of fear and resentment, resulting in an escalation of crime and acts of terror. Amid all the chaos, Adam Jensen goes after the Illuminati, the men and women responsible for tearing the world apart. Armed with a new arsenal of state-of-the-art weapons and augmentations, he must choose the right approach, along with who to trust, in order to unravel a vast worldwide conspiracy.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:36 pm

I won't be back from my trip till the 27th, but I've already pre-ordered, so nothing but positive impressions, OK?

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:20 am

jztemple2 wrote:I won't be back from my trip till the 27th, but I've already pre-ordered, so nothing but positive impressions, OK?

I'll be on it the second it releases (and I get home from work (and the kids are put to bed (and I spend some time with the wife))).

I've watched a few gameplay videos and I am still pretty excited for it.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:39 am

coopasonic wrote:
I'll be on it the second it releases (and I get home from work (and the kids are put to bed (and I spend some time with the wife))).

I've watched a few gameplay videos and I am still pretty excited for it.

That's my plan as well. I wish I could take the day off, but given the project schedule I'm on, that would be bad.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:58 am

gbasden wrote:
coopasonic wrote:
I'll be on it the second it releases (and I get home from work (and the kids are put to bed (and I spend some time with the wife))).

I've watched a few gameplay videos and I am still pretty excited for it.
That's my plan as well. I wish I could take the day off, but given the project schedule I'm on, that would be bad.

On days like highly-anticipated release days, it's good to be retired, footloose and fancy-free.

It's also pretty good on most of the days in between release days.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:59 am

I'd forgotten that there was a Director's Cut release of Human Revolution, so I'm thinking I'll get that and give it a play through as I don't really remember the base game all that much. If nothing else it will get me ready for this game -which does look good.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:01 pm

Max Peck wrote:
gbasden wrote:
coopasonic wrote:
I'll be on it the second it releases (and I get home from work (and the kids are put to bed (and I spend some time with the wife))).

I've watched a few gameplay videos and I am still pretty excited for it.
That's my plan as well. I wish I could take the day off, but given the project schedule I'm on, that would be bad.
On days like highly-anticipated release days, it's good to be retired, footloose and fancy-free.

It's also pretty good on most of the days in between release days.

You know, we really need a dislike button... or maybe a really jealous button or something.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:04 pm

Oops, I forgot to embed that comment in <insufferableGloat> markup tags.

baelthazar · Post by **baelthazar** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:16 pm

The reviews so far are pretty good. PC Gamer UK gave it an 88% and RPS spoke favorable about it. The most negative thing RPS had to say was "it stays pretty close to Human Revolution," which was - admittedly - a positive as much as a negative. I'm excited (although I need to finish DOOM before it comes out)!

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:23 pm

GMG just sent my steam key... it's getting real.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:26 pm

The Steam preload is live, and weighs in at 19.9 Gbytes.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:04 am

It looks like a noon pacific time unlock... that's good for my chances of getting some sleep tonight. Those midnight unlocks are hard.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:18 am

Bad (to me) news from Gaming Trend:

Even tackling all of the side content, I was through my first run in just over a dozen hours.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:04 am

coopasonic wrote:Bad (to me) news from Gaming Trend:
Even tackling all of the side content, I was through my first run in just over a dozen hours.

I guess every game can't be of epic length. PC Gamer:

It took me just under 30 hours to finish Mankind Divided, and that included taking the time to do every side mission I could find.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:11 am

That's encouraging. Thanks.

I was playing it either way.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:15 am

Max Peck wrote:
coopasonic wrote:Bad (to me) news from Gaming Trend:
Even tackling all of the side content, I was through my first run in just over a dozen hours.
I guess every game can't be of epic length. PC Gamer:
It took me just under 30 hours to finish Mankind Divided, and that included taking the time to do every side mission I could find.

If you average the two playing times it's not a bad length.

MonkeyFinger · Post by **MonkeyFinger** » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:15 am

One man's 12 is another man's... well, mine anyway... probably more like 40.

AjD · Post by **AjD** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:58 am

$iljanus wrote:
Max Peck wrote:
coopasonic wrote:Bad (to me) news from Gaming Trend:
Even tackling all of the side content, I was through my first run in just over a dozen hours.
I guess every game can't be of epic length. PC Gamer:
It took me just under 30 hours to finish Mankind Divided, and that included taking the time to do every side mission I could find.
If you average the two playing times it's not a bad length.

Yeah, something funny is going on... lots of sources are reporting 30-ish hour run times:

Rock, Paper, Shotgun review:

This is a big game, and one that can easily take you 40+ hours to complete if you’re committed to digging at its corners.

Ars Technica review:

DX:MD has a giant campaign worth losing time within. My 30 hours with the game ahead of its launch left me salivating for more

Verge review:

My cautious and exploration-heavy run took around 28 hours

Eurogamer review:

In the course of 35 hours of play...<snip> I came away feeling like I'd got my money's worth in terms of hours

Gamespot review:

spent around 30 hours completing the campaign

Game Watcher review:

It took me 30 hours to finish it

PC Invasion review:

by no means short, it took me 25 hours and I know I didn’t see everything

Polygon review:

There’s a host of story threads presented that are explored over the game’s 30 hours

Telegraph review:

It’s a lengthy game... I played for 30 hours.

...but then bizarrely:

In the Forbes review:

So, imagine my surprise when I did manage to finish the entire game, playing at a leisurely pace, in less than a day and a half. Maybe about 10-12 hours total, even with all the exploring and sidequests.

So, what's up? Is there a weird path you can take in the game that enables you to skip half its content?

And if so, is that a bug -- or a feature?

Regardless, if true, it sounds like Forbes and Gaming Trend somehow may have only reviewed half the game.

Covenant72 · Post by **Covenant72** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:33 am

I heard that there is lots of side content that isn't clearly marked, and if you don't explore and talk to NPCs, you can easily miss it entirely. Perhaps the 10-12 hour crowd only did the content the game held your hand and showed you?

AjD · Post by **AjD** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:15 am

Covenant72 wrote:I heard that there is lots of side content that isn't clearly marked, and if you don't explore and talk to NPCs, you can easily miss it entirely. Perhaps the 10-12 hour crowd only did the content the game held your hand and showed you?

That's what I thought at first, but the two "unintentional speed-run" reviewers claim otherwise.

Gaming Trend:

Even tackling all of the side content, I was through my first run in just over a dozen hours.

...and again, Forbes:

Maybe about 10-12 hours total, even with all the exploring and sidequests.

The rest of the reviews confidently claim about 30 hours of gameplay (some even more than that). I know different players have different play styles. But that's a pretty huge time discrepancy. It makes me wonder if there's a path/choice you can take somewhere in the game which skips a whole bunch of content. And perhaps that wasn't intentional?

I suppose we'll eventually find out, now that the game is in the hands of players. On second thought, maybe it's a conspiracy and one of the programmers intended to include a speed-run backdoor!

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:17 am

coopasonic wrote:It looks like a noon pacific time unlock... that's good for my chances of getting some sleep tonight. Those midnight unlocks are hard.

Sorry, I got my maths wrong. It's noon eastern, 9am pacific. I hope nobody took me at my word.

I am seriously considering a long lunch at home.

My enthusiasm is somewhat hampered by having just started Dragon's Dogma and *really* enjoying that. I almost hate to switch, but I gotta switch... dammit.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:18 am

To Covenant's point, how do you know you hit all the side content if it is not obvious that it exists?

Ron's (GamingTrend) steam profile is private so I can't stalk him to see any details.

AjD · Post by **AjD** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:21 am

coopasonic wrote:To Covenant's point, how do you know you hit all the side content if it is not obvious that it exists?

I don't think you would know. (Or know for sure, at least.)

But 10-12 hours vs. 30+ hours is a huge time discrepancy. Seems weird. Can't recall a game where that big of a difference was reported by reviewers who claim to have followed the side quests too.

Covenant72 · Post by **Covenant72** » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:23 am

No clue... I just remember reading a comment that there is lots of side content that is not "obvious" in the game. It would explain a large discrepancy in playtime if that content was missed.