Fallout Shelter PC

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:07 pm

I just cannot catch the Stranger when he is in those elevators on the bottom right. The silly way they have the game scroll means it wont go over that far and stay unless I zoom to one of the room then scroll. Then its too late.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:36 pm

Daehawk wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:Right, three wide is the limit.

One suggestion: Destroy the upper right room, remove the elevator, and rebuild the room with no elevator on the top level except for the one on the left. It will help later with deathclaws. It forces them to cross the top floor twice, which lets you super-arm that floor into a killing zone.
Followed your suggestion.

What you'll see is that enemies are programmed to complete one floor, then move to the elevator to the next floor. With that arrangement, they'll hit your door room, then the power plant, then the room on the right, then the power plant again, then the elevator. That means they hit your strongest guards (in the power plant) twice.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:26 pm

So far they haven't made it through the guards once. When do the raiders start becoming more difficult? After so many rooms maybe or so many dwellers perhaps.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:16 pm

Daehawk wrote:So far they haven't made it through the guards once. When do the raiders start becoming more difficult? After so many rooms maybe or so many dwellers perhaps.

It is not the raiders that you need to worry about.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:31 pm

Figures. I need to fight 7 fires to get some loot. I fight 5 and figure Ill just rush a couple rooms and get those fires. 16 or so rushes later I have 1 failure and get rad roaches.

If I didn't need a fire then 2 out of 3 would burn.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:58 pm

Thinking of turning on my radio. How tough are Deathclaws?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:57 pm

Depends on what you've got to fight them with. They do a ton of damage, but they tend to move fast and will frequently leave a swathe of badly injured behind them without killing as many as you'd expect (although they'll still chew low level dwellers into Cram.)

You'll eventually get deathclaws regardless of the radio. The enemies you face are based on your population. Cross certain thresholds and you get tougher enemies.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:44 am

Wish I could drag the map with just right click...I cant count how many times Ive grabbed someone and moved them when trying to just move the view around.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:31 pm

Im still seeing a problem where Ill loot a outfit from a lunchbox and it show up in my vaults inv taking up space but when I go to equip it on someone its nowhere to be found. I can see it in my inv but not when I click a person to put it on them.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:36 pm

Some outfits are gender specific.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:03 pm

Here is my fearless questing army doing their thing. I wish they would shoot faster. Seems they shoot for every 5 attacks the enemy gets in. Slooooow. Costing me stims these days.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:21 pm

Attack speed is determined by agility.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:40 pm

Welp looks like these 3 are going in the Agility room. Ive had them in the S and E rooms..thought maybe C would help on health too.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:43 pm

Charisma? That's for making babies faster and for passing random checks when exploring the wasteland. After Endurance, look at Agility (attack speed), Luck (critical meter fill rate) and Perception (critical guage crosshair speed.)

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:55 am

Charisma....was thinking it was Constitution.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:13 am

Would be nice to have the option to shut down unused rooms until you need them....especially the training rooms for stats. I now have to have 3 fully upgraded power rooms to just barely stay ahead. I now have 40 people too.

Cant get the full vault into the pic now ...had to cut off the top room tops and bottom room floor.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:07 am

Would be nice to build a fire suppression system too.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:03 am

I tried playing this again "as intended" - just for a few minutes before getting into something else - and it's far more tolerable when you're not waiting on anything. I'm up to 35 Dwellers, which is just enough to unlock the Endurance room. I've got a squad of 6 fresh (level 1) kids born in the Vault in there right now training up, and then they'll perfect themselves in other rooms and these guys will form the backbone of my exploration & questing force.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:55 pm

You guys are putting way more effort into your vaults and characters than I ever did.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:04 pm

I don't know if "effort" is the right word for what I'm doing now. I'm basically watering my vault once a day, running a mission, setting up the next one, and quitting until the next day.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:25 pm

Yeah, it is a mobile game, and that is how most mobile games are meant to be played. A few minutes waiting for a taxi, a few minutes after lunch, a few minutes in the can.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:59 am

Just killed about 20 deathclaws during a mission...including one big mamma one. Didn't give me any problem other than my slow attack speed making me take more damage than I should.

When these 3 get back Im sticking them in the AGILITY training room for a good long time.

And since the DCs weren't any trouble I think Ill turn on my radio to get more dwellers. My guys should handle the DC fine.

killbot737 · Post by **killbot737** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:44 pm

I am currently SPECIAL training two squads of level 1 super-dwellers.

They were rescued from their average-dweller parents' unworthy hands at the earliest possible moment. Their virgin eyes shall not see the desolation wrought upon the world by lesser minds until they are at the peak, PEAK of all possible conditioning!

MWAHAHAHAHAhahahaha! Thus sayeth the Overseer! It is written! It shall be DONE!

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:32 pm

A guy I sent out alone last night has found a bunch of stuff so bringing him back half dead. He has found my first plasma pistol. Cool.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:45 am

I think I messed up making me meds and rads rooms only 2 wide so Ive stopped upgrading them before the final time and will re place them later when I have the money to move them.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:29 pm

Ok about those 3 I use for all my questing. I put them in the A training until their stat is almost completely full. Im not sure though if it takes longer and longer the higher their stat gets or if it only will train so far but it seems stuck. All 3 have their stats at the same place...about 1/8 from full and its not moving. I stuck them back in training after a quest run. During the fighting on the quest they 'seemed' to fight faster. Im hoping I can train them the rest of the way and get a big boost to speed. Otherwise Ill have to just put them in some A armor and let that finish off their stat.

During the quest I saw something Id not seen before. They went in a room and large glowing boss scorpion popped out. Now usually they take 2 rounds to kill the normal little stuff but this time as he popped out he was moving to take his place and they were doing the same when one of them fired and insta killed him. I never got to see a health bar or anything before he died...just happened so fast. Was cool

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:08 pm

Daehawk wrote:Ok about those 3 I use for all my questing. I put them in the A training until their stat is almost completely full. Im not sure though if it takes longer and longer the higher their stat gets or if it only will train so far but it seems stuck. All 3 have their stats at the same place...about 1/8 from full and its not moving. I stuck them back in training after a quest run. During the fighting on the quest they 'seemed' to fight faster. Im hoping I can train them the rest of the way and get a big boost to speed. Otherwise Ill have to just put them in some A armor and let that finish off their stat.

During the quest I saw something Id not seen before. They went in a room and large glowing boss scorpion popped out. Now usually they take 2 rounds to kill the normal little stuff but this time as he popped out he was moving to take his place and they were doing the same when one of them fired and insta killed him. I never got to see a health bar or anything before he died...just happened so fast. Was cool

It is taking longer and longer to train stat. 1 to 2 need only a few minutes. 9 to 10 is almost 20 hours. Upgrading training room increase the speed slightly. Instead of almost 20 hours for 9 to 10 become almost 19 hours at level 2. Probably not worth it to upgrade training until later when you have upgraded all non training rooms to max.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:23 am

I rescued Bottle & Cappy. They said they'd stop by my vault on occasion and get me drunk. Sweet!

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:23 pm

Bottle & Cappy stopped by. We danced and drank all night. They even tossed money out for the dwellers to brighten up their mood.

After a long night of drinking and dancing Bottle & Cappy head out to improve the lives of other citizens of the wastes. Im all the richer for it...literally.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:03 am

45 dwellers. Now I can build even better weapons..plasma, laser, flamers, assault rifles....good stuff. Need more parts.

killbot737 · Post by **killbot737** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:14 pm

Daehawk wrote:Bottle & Cappy stopped by. We danced and drank all night. They even tossed money out for the dwellers to brighten up their mood.

I didn't know those jerks give caps! I though they were just a diversion from other less pleasant events.

The Overseer knows all! All praise to the Overseer! Also, the Overseer lost a water chip. Contact the Overseer if you find one.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:12 am

On this visit Bottle & Cappy gave me 1350 caps and 2 quantum colas.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:20 am

killbot737 wrote:
Daehawk wrote:Bottle & Cappy stopped by. We danced and drank all night. They even tossed money out for the dwellers to brighten up their mood.

I didn't know those jerks give caps! I though they were just a diversion from other less pleasant events.

The Overseer knows all! All praise to the Overseer! Also, the Overseer lost a water chip. Contact the Overseer if you find one.

Hell, Bottle sometimes gives out Nuka Cola Quantum.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:15 pm

Yep he gave me 4 I think last visit. And those guys visit almost as much as The Stranger. I guess they appear for every 3 Stranger visits.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:53 am

Need 2 things.

1. A mouse button for ONLY moving my view around. Im So annoyed by having some emergency and trying to move my view only to grab some poor slob and fling them around.

2. Why does it scroll all the way to the left of my vault so I can see but wont go all the way right thereby forcing me to double click a room on the right then stop the zoom in so I can see into my rooms good on that side. Miss a lot of the STranger because of that.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:03 am

Ive got nearly 90,000 caps and 55/80 people. Other than leaving my radio on Ive got nothing to do but run quests.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:46 am

Ya The Brotherhood of Steel made me an honorary member. I dont reckon that actually does anything or helps me.

Kasey Chang · Post by **Kasey Chang** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:33 am

I got my Android savegame transferred to the PC/Steam version.

Lucky me, I just got whacked by THREE deathlclaws. Killed like 5-6 residents, despite almost everyone in the top floors are armed with something.

My wanderers are both dead. Had to revive them to bring back their loot, which are too good to abandon. Guess I left them alone for too long. Should bring them back when they have about 3 stimpacks left. Need more than a dozen to survive the more complicated buildings, esp. when they see the really tough enemies.

Had to build a much larger medbay to get a larger stockpile of stimpaks.

Just in the past two hours I survived 3 deathclaw, 2 raider, and 1 feral ghoul attack. ARGH! I was going to buy an upgrade, but that forced me to revive more than a few dead vaulters. Had to recall all of my wanderers to get their loot and caps. They had 1000 and 2000 respectively.

Kasey Chang · Post by **Kasey Chang** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:35 am

Okay, I've refitted my entire top two floors with advanced weapons (shotguns or hunting rifles, with 2 advanced weapons, like a flamer and a combat shotgun) so as long as I have enough stims, I can survive deathclaw raids. Raiders are no problems, and feral ghouls are a mere annoyance.

I got my overseer's office built in the wrong place. Now I can't exactly move it, so that's PITA. Guess I have to upgrade it in place. I'm coming up on 90th citizen, and I have enough babies lined up to hit 100 in the next 24 hours (or be very close). I need to send out more expeditions, darn it. The problem is if I send them out with a ton of stims, I generally get hit by a deathclaw raid and end up with dead citizens when I run out of stims. If I don't send them with a lot of stims, they run into trouble and disengaging is problematic. (yes, you can disengage in the middle of combat)

I've recruited several "horror actors" through the encounters. They generally have good stats.

Playing on the PC seems to be a much better experience than on the tablet, though even the larger screen doesn't mean I can catch the mysterious stranger much.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:01 am

If you haven't, read my earlier posts about how to optimize your top floor guards with both stats and weapons. It's been a while since I've played so I don't remember the details off the top of my head, but I posted about it a couple of times.

As I recall, between layout, stats, and weapon choice (big damage numbers vs AoE), a three deathclaw attack rarely got to the second floor, and never required a stimpack. Most of them were dead before they made it through the first floor.

Go somewhere out of the way and build enough extra stimpack rooms that your max is what you need for a full expedition + defense.