Dominions 5 - Return of the Octopus Overlords
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Dominions 5 - Return of the Octopus Overlords
Hello All,
My new ISP is not playing nice with my static IP address, so we are going to start a game on the famous Server Link.
Basically it is a PBEM version where it emails you your turn, and you download it, play your turn and then upload it again. We can set the server to even do a timer, IE - 48 hrs or whatever, so it will send reminders if you need to submit a turn, so it's a good way to get a reminder.
We can figure out all of the basics we want to play with, but I figured we should get who wants to play and what era.
I am guessing MA, is the easiest to start with. But let me know who wants in, and we can get it all set-up.
Map: Random 200 Provinces
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uzr96uth7sru ... gUMua?dl=0
Game Name: ReturnoftheOctopi (Need to put in subject when sending in pretender)
Game Site:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi ... ftheOctopi
FAQ on how to send in pretenders and turns:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160
But here is the basics:
- Go to Game Tools -> Create a pretender god in Dominions. Don't set a password, since for PBEM games they're not helpful and occasionally annoying (e.g. if you need a sub)
- Go to the savedgames/newlords folder in the dominions directory, and find your pretender file (e.g. mid_pythium_0.2h)
- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail
Players/Nations:
Team Zenn7
Zenn7-Ashdod Not Uploaded
Freyland - Machaka uploaded
RMC- Ys uploaded
Team Sepiche
Sepiche - Marignon Uploaded
Lordmortis - Pangea Not Uploaded
Baelthazar - R'yleah Uploaded
Team Zarathud
Zarathud - Ulm Not Uploaded
Tgb - Bandor Log Uploaded
T-Sceleria Uploaded
My new ISP is not playing nice with my static IP address, so we are going to start a game on the famous Server Link.
Basically it is a PBEM version where it emails you your turn, and you download it, play your turn and then upload it again. We can set the server to even do a timer, IE - 48 hrs or whatever, so it will send reminders if you need to submit a turn, so it's a good way to get a reminder.
We can figure out all of the basics we want to play with, but I figured we should get who wants to play and what era.
I am guessing MA, is the easiest to start with. But let me know who wants in, and we can get it all set-up.
Map: Random 200 Provinces
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uzr96uth7sru ... gUMua?dl=0
Game Name: ReturnoftheOctopi (Need to put in subject when sending in pretender)
Game Site:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi ... ftheOctopi
FAQ on how to send in pretenders and turns:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160
But here is the basics:
- Go to Game Tools -> Create a pretender god in Dominions. Don't set a password, since for PBEM games they're not helpful and occasionally annoying (e.g. if you need a sub)
- Go to the savedgames/newlords folder in the dominions directory, and find your pretender file (e.g. mid_pythium_0.2h)
- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail
Players/Nations:
Team Zenn7
Zenn7-Ashdod Not Uploaded
Freyland - Machaka uploaded
RMC- Ys uploaded
Team Sepiche
Sepiche - Marignon Uploaded
Lordmortis - Pangea Not Uploaded
Baelthazar - R'yleah Uploaded
Team Zarathud
Zarathud - Ulm Not Uploaded
Tgb - Bandor Log Uploaded
T-Sceleria Uploaded
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Freyland -- Those Spider dudes, or Ulm since I at least vaguely remember them from Dom3. (Tried farting around last night, really need to review the manual)
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Bandar Log for me because monkey people!
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MA is fine. Since I didn't play Dom 4 I'm sure they've added in many new factions, so I am out of touch. I will come up with a faction soon. Are there any we are banning?
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Nah, I am guessing we will do Coop, so we will do disciples and designate a main pretender.
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I'll take the healing human guys, assuming we are playing early or middle. I don't think they exist late.
Man, I have some learning/relearning to do.
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We all have to remember what the nations are. I'll try to find a list.
I am guessing MA is what we will play. Lots of nations and a good blend of magic.
I am guessing MA is what we will play. Lots of nations and a good blend of magic.
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MA is fine.
Suggest we ban the undead factions from our team (if our pretender is undead, the rest of us are screwed; if not and you pick an undead disciple, you are likely to be severely handicapped).
Other than that, we are likely going with 0 change heat/cold scale (to accommodate the most players w/o negative impact). Would suggest staying away from the +2/+3 heat/cold scale factions.
The "spider dudes" are Machaka - they are +2 heat scale so you may not want them, up to you.
I'll pick a faction tonight.
Suggest we ban the undead factions from our team (if our pretender is undead, the rest of us are screwed; if not and you pick an undead disciple, you are likely to be severely handicapped).
Other than that, we are likely going with 0 change heat/cold scale (to accommodate the most players w/o negative impact). Would suggest staying away from the +2/+3 heat/cold scale factions.
The "spider dudes" are Machaka - they are +2 heat scale so you may not want them, up to you.
I'll pick a faction tonight.
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http://www.illwinter.com/dom5/dom5manual.pdf
races start on page 99
Ermor is what I want but it looks like only if we play early era. If we play middle they become undead?
races start on page 99
Ermor is what I want but it looks like only if we play early era. If we play middle they become undead?
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And I just remembered by llamma might not be what we want, I don't think we can do AI vs people... But I will check.
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Correct. In MA, they become undead. They are supreme undead faction in the game. Their dominion spreads death, you get free spawn fodder, which is how you get your troops for the most part. They have no recruitable national troops. You cannot recruit anything their capital. They can recruit independents. They rely on freespawn and summoning. They can get freespawn commanders too (just mound kings and occasionally censors, no casters). In the capitals, they get freespawn undead versions of the Roman legionnaire troops. Their priests can reanimate the cheap freespawn. At L3 holy, they can reanimate sacred Lictors (fairly tough peeps if you put a good bless on them).LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:42 am Ermor is what I want but it looks like only if we play early era. If we play middle they become undead?
The rest of us would be totally screwed with MA Ermor as our pretendor. Anyone playing MA Ermor as a disciple would be screwed (though I guess if you want to SERIOUSLY challenge yourself, this is one way to do it).
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Then I guess I go home and choose someone other than Ermor tonight.
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Pangea is a fun nation as well.
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If you want early Ermor, but in the middle era try Scelaria or alternately Pythium. Scelaria is early Western Roman Empire + undead, Pythium is early Eastern Roman Empire + astral magic.LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:42 am Ermor is what I want but it looks like only if we play early era. If we play middle they become undead?
I'll go with Marignon. And I don't mind playing one of the pretenders unless anyone else wants to give it a try.
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Arcosephale has healer priests (and scrying). Maybe that's what you were thinking of?
I don't care who the pretender is, but get us some sort of bless to play with. All these neat new bless options, we should try something out!
Just don't forget the powerful ones are in incarnate - they only work while our god (the pretender) is awake (not dormant/imprisoned) and alive (don't get killed!).
I'm contemplating Mictlan or Vanheim, but I'm open if someone else wants those.
I don't care who the pretender is, but get us some sort of bless to play with. All these neat new bless options, we should try something out!
Just don't forget the powerful ones are in incarnate - they only work while our god (the pretender) is awake (not dormant/imprisoned) and alive (don't get killed!).
I'm contemplating Mictlan or Vanheim, but I'm open if someone else wants those.
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I'll go with Sceleria.
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What does this mean? Don't we all control pretenders?
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If we play Coop, then the way iti s done now is that there is one 'main' pretender and then we all make disciples. The Disciples are like Mini-pretenders.
It works out really well.
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The disciples still go through the pretender design (pick out a body and schools of spells), but not the amount of dominion candles to start with or the dominion effect (growth/death, luck/misfortune, etc). And no bless effect. The dominion candles/effect/bless are whatever the pretender player selects - we all get the same.
The other impact of playing this way is no one can create a prophet (the disciple players are the prophets of the pretender).
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I'll go ahead and be pangea
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Also, the limitations for Llama server is I can't add AI's, or at least I can't figure out how too. So we have to do one side vs the other.
So we will need two 'leaders'
Zenn7 and Sepiche would be my votes.
And then we can randomize teams from there, as long as that is okay.
So we will need two 'leaders'
Zenn7 and Sepiche would be my votes.
And then we can randomize teams from there, as long as that is okay.
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Hey! I was interested! Can I still be added?
Are we not doing sea nations? Can I be R'lyeh?
Are we not doing sea nations? Can I be R'lyeh?
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Of course you can be in, and no reason not to do a Sea nation that I can see...baelthazar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:56 am Hey! I was interested! Can I still be added?
Are we not doing sea nations? Can I be R'lyeh?
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On Llama, can we make player factions go AI? Thinking we set our side up and put whoever else we want the AI to have on the AI team (or teams if appropriate) and then just set them to AI after we start the game.
I can do a pretender/leader for one side.
For actual diplomacy/strategy, other than basic game play, I'm not so great (just a FYI).
I can do a pretender/leader for one side.
For actual diplomacy/strategy, other than basic game play, I'm not so great (just a FYI).
I believe there are 4 water factions in MA. No reason you can't be one. Assuming we use a random map, no idea how much water there will be for you to master. But you'll be a heck of an annoyance threat to the land factions (most of whom do not have amphibious units so they have to make some dedicated effort to specifically come after your water territories.baelthazar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:56 am Hey! I was interested! Can I still be added?
Are we not doing sea nations? Can I be R'lyeh?
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Oh, if we do 2 teams, might want to split factions a little focused - then people can play hot/cold nations, just make sure anyone who wants to be hot is on one team and anyone cold on the other. We could likely make the factions +1 hot/cold appropriately to help everyone on each team stay more in balance.
Just thinking out loud about options.
Just thinking out loud about options.
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R'lyeh is an annoyance to most factions (and has the coastal hybrids). I do not think the MA version is the one that has the creeping madness... if that is the case I can pick another faction. Because the creeping dominion-based insanity would throw a huge monkey wrench into allies and enemies alike. But I think that is LA.
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I can switch to a water nation as well, if needed. And you are right, I think as Admin I can log in and set them AI.Zenn7 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:46 am On Llama, can we make player factions go AI? Thinking we set our side up and put whoever else we want the AI to have on the AI team (or teams if appropriate) and then just set them to AI after we start the game.
I can do a pretender/leader for one side.
For actual diplomacy/strategy, other than basic game play, I'm not so great (just a FYI).
I believe there are 4 water factions in MA. No reason you can't be one. Assuming we use a random map, no idea how much water there will be for you to master. But you'll be a heck of an annoyance threat to the land factions (most of whom do not have amphibious units so they have to make some dedicated effort to specifically come after your water territories.baelthazar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:56 am Hey! I was interested! Can I still be added?
Are we not doing sea nations? Can I be R'lyeh?
But sometimes it get's funny about the same Key having multiple nations. But we can play with it and see.
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Pretty sure that is LA and it's only an issue IF you are the pretender. Otherwise, you are stuck with the pretender's dominion. It's why MA Ermor is flat out OUT. Same for the carrion woods nation (A something, not the A w/ giants).baelthazar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:48 am R'lyeh is an annoyance to most factions (and has the coastal hybrids). I do not think the MA version is the one that has the creeping madness... if that is the case I can pick another faction. Because the creeping dominion-based insanity would throw a huge monkey wrench into allies and enemies alike. But I think that is LA.
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Pretty sure that is LA and it's only an issue IF you are the pretender. Otherwise, you are stuck with the pretender's dominion. It's why MA Ermor is flat out OUT. Same for the carrion woods nation (A something, not the A w/ giants).baelthazar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:48 am R'lyeh is an annoyance to most factions (and has the coastal hybrids). I do not think the MA version is the one that has the creeping madness... if that is the case I can pick another faction. Because the creeping dominion-based insanity would throw a huge monkey wrench into allies and enemies alike. But I think that is LA.
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If it's like Dom 4 on LLama server we could add a second team of "human" players and then set them to AI on the first turn.
That said I'm fine with either coop or teams.
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That's what I was thinking. And Dom5 has an added option that you can set the AI of humans who go AI, so they're not all easy/brain dead. Plus we can design their team to give them a small boost by better design if we are so inclined.
But I'm fine either way as well.
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I think we should do teams with no AIs. If there are a lot of noobs maybe they can do a co-op AI game.
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I think we should consider an AI game. There are a lot of noobs that were invited and they probably shouldn't be excluded just because a latecomer doesn't want to deal with them.
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Either way, and Noobs can play a Disciple game as well, it's still a fun time either way. We will play Teams, so everyone will have experienced players with them.
I don't plan to turn anyone away.
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I'm in as Sceleria. MA is fine. I would also make sure any new players are balanced across both teams.
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In as Pretender Ulm MA. Tell me how to sign in and I'm there.
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Are we doing a disciples game (or whatever it’s called) meaning we need to know the scales of the pretender before we create disciples? I never played Dom4, so this might not be accurate, but I think you can get the idea.
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The Pretenders should be choosing scales that are generally helpful or announce if they want +heat/cold allies.
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Yes a disciple game. I'll let the leaders announce the scales. If people want to change nations that's fine as well.
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