Re: The Platform Wars (Steam, Epic, GoG, etc)
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:28 pm
Np with Uplay here. I had to reinstall the Bethesda launcher tonight for that free Morrowind. That brings my installed launcher / stores to 12.
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http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
Yeah, because I mostly see it as a way for them to drive people to their store rather than being out of convenience. Without the service, some of their games on Steam won't get activated if not present and flat out crash when trying to start them. Sounds like strongarm tactics to me.GreenGoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:38 pmNobody likes Ubisoft and Uplay. Well, mostly nobody. I'm sure someone here will be along to look around perplexed wondering what the big deal is. Anyway, it might be the worst of the lot. They have engaged in some business practices that have been actively hostile to their customers in the past. I own some Ubisoft games and have Uplay installed, but I'm not happy about it and mostly go out of my way to avoid them.Rumpy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:35 pm You know, I think the practice of selling a game on a platform such as Steam and still requiring another service on top of that I feel is just as bad as an exclusive. In fact, it's probably worse. I'm eyeing Ubisoft on that one. Some of their games are available on Steam (they might have been removing them though?), yet they still require Uplay and won't function without some sort of Uplay activation. That's some BS right there. And I don't think it's really fair to the customer to have to install another service/marketplace in order to be able to play it.
September 22, 2010: It's a hoax.WYBaugh wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:35 pm Well, this sucks:
http://www.gog.com/" target="_blankDear GOG users,
We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.
We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.
This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.
On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.
All the best,
GOG.com Team
Jeebus, my stomach took a plunge. Given their recent financial trouble with GOG, I thought this was a very recent announcement. Until I saw the date.The Meal wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:39 am
September 22, 2010: It's a hoax.
$0 from The Meal since that marketing ploy.
Bethesda are backing down from plans to make Rage 2 and other upcoming games exclusive to their own launcher, announcing today via Twitter that they’ll all be sold on Steam. Confirmed headed back to Valve’s storefront is Rage 2, Wolfenstein: Youngblood, VR spinoff Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot and (most importantly) Doom Eternal. The move will be partially retroactive as well, with Fallout 76 confirmed for a Steam release “later this year”, although no date has been nailed down for that yet.
Fortnite creator Epic Games announced today that it’s acquired the independent game development studio Psyonix, makers of the massively popular vehicular soccer game Rocket League.
As a result of the deal, Psyonix says it will have access to more resources to support Rocket League’s competitive e-sports league and, by late 2019, will bring the game to Epic’s PC storefront.
After that, it sounds like Rocket League will no longer be available on Valve’s competing Steam store, though buyers of the Steam version can continue to play their existing copy of the game indefinitely and continue to receive support, which Variety is reporting includes downloadable content, patches, and all other future content.
Here’s the bit that makes it sound like Rocket League’s days on Steam are numbered (bolding ours):
“The PC version of Rocket League will come to the Epic Games store in late 2019. In the meantime, it will continue to be available for purchase on Steam; thereafter it will continue to be supported on Steam for all existing purchasers.”
“If a developer or publisher chooses to not participate in our sales, we will honor that decision,” the Epic rep said in an email. “Paradox Interactive has chosen to not participate in the Epic Mega Sale and the game has been temporarily removed from sale. If you’ve purchased Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 during the period when the discount did apply at the time of check out, Epic will honor that price.”
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The structure of this sale, after all, is unusual; the additional $10 off games priced $14.99 and higher comes “courtesy of Epic,” meaning that Epic itself is taking the monetary hit, so companies like Paradox and Klei can’t easily match those prices on Steam. In Paradox’s case, it’s doubly dicey, seeing as Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 isn’t out yet. Why pre-order it anywhere else if Epic could, theoretically, discount it again before it’s released? Some people have pointed to regional pricing differences that would’ve led to impractically large discounts on an unreleased game in some territories, as well.
No such luck, from what I can see. They've changed the price to "Coming Soon" and won't let you pre-purchase it at the moment. Maybe Gearbox doesn't like this sale any more than Paradox did.coopasonic wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:07 pm $50 for borderlands 3... that extra $10 off is very nice.
I actually had the purchase screen and didn't buy it... oh well.Max Peck wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:36 pmNo such luck, from what I can see. They've changed the price to "Coming Soon" and won't let you pre-purchase it at the moment. Maybe Gearbox doesn't like this sale any more than Paradox did.coopasonic wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:07 pm $50 for borderlands 3... that extra $10 off is very nice.
I jumped on that this morning, as did my son. I'm not messing with the early access this time, though. It spoiled too much of the finished product on the first one (not that I haven't still played it through 2 1/2 times since release.)
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I was able to buy it before they pulled it.Max Peck wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:36 pmNo such luck, from what I can see. They've changed the price to "Coming Soon" and won't let you pre-purchase it at the moment. Maybe Gearbox doesn't like this sale any more than Paradox did.coopasonic wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:07 pm $50 for borderlands 3... that extra $10 off is very nice.
Rami Ismail of studio Vlambeer elaborated further, saying “If you can’t afford or don’t want to buy our games full-price, please pirate them rather than buying them from a key reseller. These sites cost us so much potential dev time in customer service, investigating fake key requests, figuring out credit card chargebacks, and more”.
Speaking to the New York Times, Early said Ubisoft decided to stop selling its latest blockbuster games on Steam because Valve will not budge on its revenue sharing model, where Steam keeps 30 percent of a game's sale price.
“It’s unrealistic, the current business model that they have,” he said. “It doesn’t reflect where the world is today in terms of game distribution.” Early explained that the decision to not sell The Division 2 on Valve's platform was made as part of a larger business discussion at Ubisoft in regards to releasing games on Steam.
Game prices haven't budged in decades, and won't now. And if you take inflation into account, game prices have dropped considerably.
Yeah, I'm really surprised at how little the Epic Games Store has evolved since launch. There's still no way to sort or search for games, which is a problem when they offer 100+ titles. There's no wishlist. There's no shopping cart, so you can't buy more than one game at a time, which is just weird.coopasonic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:41 am As far as downloading and playing games Epic is fine (we'll find out for sure in two weeks when Borderlands 3 hits), but from a feature standpoint, Epic has a lot of ground to cover... like *all* of it. It's kind of shocking they have launched and gone this long without basic features like a wishlist.
This requires xbox to get back on top to really be a player in my mind. I was all xbox, but still bought sony and nintendo offerings) until current gen and ps4 has crushed xbox this generation to the point that I probably won't even buy the next gen xbox. Also game pass is only supplementary unless you are ok with just playing whatever is available.
I bought my first game from Epic (Control) and I noticed that the speeds were not competitive to Steam. I can max out my pipe (~20 MB/s) from Steam. Epic maxed out at 4 MB/s. In fact, I was feeling cheeky so I fired up a Steam download at the same time and it happily tapped into the 15 MB/s available to it. This wouldn't be a big deal if they had pre-loading...but that is another feature that is missing.coopasonic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:41 am As far as downloading and playing games Epic is fine (we'll find out for sure in two weeks when Borderlands 3 hits), but from a feature standpoint, Epic has a lot of ground to cover... like *all* of it. It's kind of shocking they have launched and gone this long without basic features like a wishlist.
I just ran a quick test on Epic, downloading For Honor which looked like the biggest thing I had that wasn't already installed and it was running around 98MB/s. I started downloading XCOM2 on steam and am seeing 83-88 MB/s.malchior wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:20 pmI bought my first game from Epic (Control) and I noticed that the speeds were not competitive to Steam. I can max out my pipe (~20 MB/s) from Steam. Epic maxed out at 4 MB/s. In fact, I was feeling cheeky so I fired up a Steam download at the same time and it happily tapped into the 15 MB/s available to it. This wouldn't be a big deal if they had pre-loading...but that is another feature that is missing.coopasonic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:41 am As far as downloading and playing games Epic is fine (we'll find out for sure in two weeks when Borderlands 3 hits), but from a feature standpoint, Epic has a lot of ground to cover... like *all* of it. It's kind of shocking they have launched and gone this long without basic features like a wishlist.