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wonderpug wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:42 am
Holman wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:35 pm I suppose I could watch the gameplay trailer again, but I'm lazy and I'll just ask: is it clear that single-player campaign missions aren't limited to a small number of AI ships? Are we sure they'll have significantly more than the 5 v 5 fighters of the multiplayer game?
FYI it's not just going to be 10 ships flying around in multiplayer. They've said there will be some number of AI ships added to the mix to make the battles more populated.
I think AI ships have been in the PvP space battles in the last two Star Wars Battlefronts as well.
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Heh, that guy sounds like he's new to gaming. Or at least talking to people who are.
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The graphics and the systems and the attention to detail all look wonderful.

My concern after watching the recent gameplay videos is that everything is too busy and packed too close together. I don't want to feel like I'm circle-strafing in an asteroid field; I want to make long slashing passes with lots of open empty space to work with. The original X-Wing/TIE Fighter games were great at this.

Also--and I have to believe this is something that will be rectified in DLC--how can they give us an engine with X-Wings and Y-Wings and TIE Fighters and *not* include a Death Star assault??
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Paradroid wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:47 am Heh, that guy sounds like he's new to gaming. Or at least talking to people who are.
Thats JackFrags. He is very not new to gaming. Been watching him for years and years. Not as much lately. He is considered a pro. My guess is he is paid.

Still looks like a simple shooter to me. Like games from the last 20 years that EA has shoved out.
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Holman wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:23 pm
Also--and I have to believe this is something that will be rectified in DLC--how can they give us an engine with X-Wings and Y-Wings and TIE Fighters and *not* include a Death Star assault??
Well, it's set between Jedi and TFA, so not a lot of Death Stars around.
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I'm not a twitch watcher, but I could see watching good teams play this game.
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El Guapo wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:23 am
Holman wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:23 pm
Also--and I have to believe this is something that will be rectified in DLC--how can they give us an engine with X-Wings and Y-Wings and TIE Fighters and *not* include a Death Star assault??
Well, it's set between Jedi and TFA, so not a lot of Death Stars around.
Yeah, but X-Wings over the Death Star were everyone's first love, and the designers could easily declare a retro or throwback scenario.

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Holman wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:26 am
El Guapo wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:23 am
Holman wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:23 pm
Also--and I have to believe this is something that will be rectified in DLC--how can they give us an engine with X-Wings and Y-Wings and TIE Fighters and *not* include a Death Star assault??
Well, it's set between Jedi and TFA, so not a lot of Death Stars around.
Yeah, but X-Wings over the Death Star were everyone's first love, and the designers could easily declare a retro or throwback scenario.

Don't you want it?
I mean, it would be great. Presumably they'd need to switch the TIEs to the shield-less versions, which could be amusing.
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El Guapo wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:28 am
Holman wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:26 am
El Guapo wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:23 am
Holman wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:23 pm
Also--and I have to believe this is something that will be rectified in DLC--how can they give us an engine with X-Wings and Y-Wings and TIE Fighters and *not* include a Death Star assault??
Well, it's set between Jedi and TFA, so not a lot of Death Stars around.
Yeah, but X-Wings over the Death Star were everyone's first love, and the designers could easily declare a retro or throwback scenario.

Don't you want it?
I mean, it would be great. Presumably they'd need to switch the TIEs to the shield-less versions, which could be amusing.

How many times do we want to replay that? I was in the alpha (or was it beta) and the game is fun and very focused. I'm looking forward to the single player side which I know is not the focus.
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Daehawk wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Still looks like a simple shooter to me. Like games from the last 20 years that EA has shoved out.
It's got power balancing, multiple ship classes, different loadouts, adjusting shields and an advanced tug of war mode where targeting specific ship parts. Not to mention the single player campaign. What do you feel is missing?
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The problem with space missions is that designers throw in too much stuff too close together. I wrote about this problem back in the days of FreeSpace. Apparently they still haven’t learned.
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So apparently this is only going to cost $40! (Sorry if this has already been mentioned in the thread.)

"We always look at the games and we want to make sure we are providing the greatest value for our players," Jorgensen said. "And, you know, games all have [a] different scale, and most of our games right now have [a] huge scale. We designed [Squadrons] to really focus on what we heard from consumers, which is one of their greatest fantasies, and that's to be able to fly an X-Wing fighter, a Tie Fighter, and be in a dogfight. And so it doesn't have the breadth of some of our games, but it is still an incredible game, and so that's why we chose to price it at a slightly lower level, to also allow access to as many people as possible who have that Star Wars fantasy."

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My takeaways from watching the gameplay video:

1. No 3rd person view. It's all in first person. No aim assist or lead indicators. Also, looks like JackFrags was able to do freelook to look around the cockpit. This suggests there is no system telling you you are being fired at other than seeing blaster fire go past your cockpit or hearing your ship get hit. Certainly looks like there is no system to tell you you are being tailed.

Another implication of this is you need to have situational awareness of how far your starship extends past your view, so you can do death defying feats like skimming between asteroids or flying close to capital ships.

2. Fleet battles is PvP 5v5 or PVE vs. AI. There are AI fighters and AI light cruisers and corvettes. Destruction of which can also swing morale over to your side. The fact that there is PVE is a good sell for me. Sometimes I just want to join a pickup game and not have to worry about getting smoked by a squad that plays together every night.
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gbasden wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:18 pm
Daehawk wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Still looks like a simple shooter to me. Like games from the last 20 years that EA has shoved out.
It's got power balancing, multiple ship classes, different loadouts, adjusting shields and an advanced tug of war mode where targeting specific ship parts. Not to mention the single player campaign. What do you feel is missing?
A soul. It appears to be a souless graphics display. No true campaign and a single player most likely bots like BF and others . Wouldn't pay $5 for in 3 years. If someone ever makes a true SW sim again Ill be all over it. Until then Ill just play stuff from the 90s.
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I love everything about this game except for the graphics. It's supposed to be in space, so why is there a serious lack of empty space? It looks like JJ Abrams puked nebulae, space glitter and contrails onto the screen.
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Daehawk wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:59 pm
gbasden wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:18 pm
Daehawk wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Still looks like a simple shooter to me. Like games from the last 20 years that EA has shoved out.
It's got power balancing, multiple ship classes, different loadouts, adjusting shields and an advanced tug of war mode where targeting specific ship parts. Not to mention the single player campaign. What do you feel is missing?
A soul. It appears to be a souless graphics display. No true campaign and a single player most likely bots like BF and others . Wouldn't pay $5 for in 3 years. If someone ever makes a true SW sim again Ill be all over it. Until then Ill just play stuff from the 90s.
Battlefields Bad Company (1 and 2), 3, 4, Hardline, 1, and 5 all had campaigns of various sorts, as did Star Wars Battlefront II.
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pr0ner wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:28 am
Daehawk wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:59 pm
gbasden wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:18 pm
Daehawk wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Still looks like a simple shooter to me. Like games from the last 20 years that EA has shoved out.
It's got power balancing, multiple ship classes, different loadouts, adjusting shields and an advanced tug of war mode where targeting specific ship parts. Not to mention the single player campaign. What do you feel is missing?
A soul. It appears to be a souless graphics display. No true campaign and a single player most likely bots like BF and others . Wouldn't pay $5 for in 3 years. If someone ever makes a true SW sim again Ill be all over it. Until then Ill just play stuff from the 90s.
Battlefields Bad Company (1 and 2), 3, 4, Hardline, 1, and 5 all had campaigns of various sorts, as did Star Wars Battlefront II.
I think he might mean that while they do have single-player campaigns, they're more setup as a multiplayer framework and have just about as much depth as a multiplayer game. Meaning you more or less go through the same motions you would as part of multiplayer game, with the same game mechanics, with nothing much beyond that as they're clearly designed for multiplayer first.
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I'm looking forward to this, even if it's probably not going to be perfect. With any luck modders will be able to make more out of it if it's lacking at release.

Also excited it's marked on Steam as having VR support.
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I had been skipping over this since pretty much everything EA touches is a blatant money grab, but that video actually got me excited. Looking forward to how it is received on launch.
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Hera needs you focused and ready to go: Star Wars Squadrons release single player preview
All right, Star Wars Rebels fans, I heard you squeal through the internet when Hera showed up in the new Star Wars Squadrons single player preview. If you haven't seen it yet, take a look:



The single player mode in Squadrons promises to flip back and forth, with the player alternating between playing as the Empire and the Rebels (because as we all know, there were heroes on both sides).

Star Wars: Squadrons is prepping for release on October 2nd. For more information on Squadrons' single player campaign, check out the new Star Wars: Squadrons Pilot Briefing here.
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This might be the first game I've ever preordered. I'm excited to play this tomorrow. It's been a long time since I've played a good Star Wars simulator. A long time. It's time for the Y-Wing to shine!
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McNutt wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:54 am This might be the first game I've ever preordered. I'm excited to play this tomorrow. It's been a long time since I've played a good Star Wars simulator. A long time. It's time for the Y-Wing to shine!
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stessier wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:06 am
McNutt wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:54 am This might be the first game I've ever preordered. I'm excited to play this tomorrow. It's been a long time since I've played a good Star Wars simulator. A long time. It's time for the Y-Wing to shine!
Just be warned that the PC VR experience is quite buggy.
Maybe by the time it shows up on EA Play via GamePass.
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The IGN was review was weird. For every praise the guy would try to give, there was always a "but" attached to it. Too me I don't think he liked it, but had to give it a good score. It's like he didn't want to ruffle any feathers.
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naednek wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:25 am The IGN was review was weird. For every praise the guy would try to give, there was always a "but" attached to it. Too me I don't think he liked it, but had to give it a good score. It's like he didn't want to ruffle any feathers.
Huh, I didn't get that vibe at all. Sounded to me like he really enjoyed the single player campaign, but that it has a few issues.

I'm really looking forward to this one. May even double-dip (PS4 and PC) so I can use my HOTAS, but will wait a bit to see whether the PC version is as buggy as some say.
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I wonder how well this would play on an XBox One with a controller? Definitely don't have a PC that could handle this, but I'm skeptical that a joystick purchase would make it through the house requisitions committee.
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El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:19 pm I wonder how well this would play on an XBox One with a controller? Definitely don't have a PC that could handle this, but I'm skeptical that a joystick purchase would make it through the house requisitions committee.
I'm expecting it to work better with a controller than a HOTAS since I'm assuming it was designed with controllers in mind first. Rebel Galaxy Outlaw worked okay with HOTAS, but I was kind of forcing it to work for me. I probably would have had a smoother experience playing it with a controller if I wasn't being stubborn about sticking to HOTAS.
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Played the first two story missions and the Fleet Battles tutorial. First impressions are absolutely fantastic.

Would love to hear feedback from anyone who is playing with a HOTAS setup. Seriously considering double-dipping.
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Picked up a PS4 copy on my way to work, hopefully just doing a halfday :)

I haven't played a space sim since the old X-Wing days but my current PC falls short on the CPU requirement so I'll give it a shot on a console. Hopefully I can unlearn playing on a proper joystick.
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McNutt wrote:It's been a long time since I've played a good Star Wars simulator.
Have you played SW:Battlefront 2? Got that for my son (*cough*) on PS4 and while not a simulator with systems, et al, was extremely immersive (and beautiful, especially with HDR enabled on PS4pro)

I was blown away by the attention to detail, and just the fun factor of being able to fly all the different ships.
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Looking forward to hearing some single player impressions since I don’t have Playstation Plus. Sounds quite pretty and shiny!
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Did the first couple of story missions last night, on PC. I don't have a HOTAS, just Logitech 3D Extreme.

Just a few quick hits until I can get more time in this weekend:

-pretty much nails the star wars vibe. Sounds, music (soo good), visuals.
-first couple of missions, as one might expect, are very much tutorials, but does a good job of integrating it with the story
- I will likely have to do some key re-mapping. We didn't have joystick twist back in the day and that defaults to roll left / right. This was the most disorienting part. I found myself having to twist to the right on the stick while pushing the stick to the left to keep from continuously rolling in a circle while turning. I'm used to the old style where joystick left and right = roll and then you pull back on the stick to turn, like an airplane.
- There were some nods to gameplay that kind of break the immersion. TIEs (and rebel ships) have 'hull repair packs' that can be deployed. This gets you past the 3-4 hits and you die factor but doesn't fit with what 'we all know' about TIEs and their frailty. I can see it more from the rebel side but they should call it 'Astromech repair' or something.
- U wings are rebel support ships. They can resupply missiles by dropping them in space for you to fly over like a power up.
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I've played one mission and have to agree with Redfive. First impression is very positive. I'm also using the Logitech 3D extreme and I need to remap a lot of the flight controls.

So far so good.

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Redfive wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:58 am Did the first couple of story missions last night, on PC. I don't have a HOTAS, just Logitech 3D Extreme.

Just a few quick hits until I can get more time in this weekend:

-pretty much nails the star wars vibe. Sounds, music (soo good), visuals.
-first couple of missions, as one might expect, are very much tutorials, but does a good job of integrating it with the story
- I will likely have to do some key re-mapping. We didn't have joystick twist back in the day and that defaults to roll left / right. This was the most disorienting part. I found myself having to twist to the right on the stick while pushing the stick to the left to keep from continuously rolling in a circle while turning. I'm used to the old style where joystick left and right = roll and then you pull back on the stick to turn, like an airplane.
- There were some nods to gameplay that kind of break the immersion. TIEs (and rebel ships) have 'hull repair packs' that can be deployed. This gets you past the 3-4 hits and you die factor but doesn't fit with what 'we all know' about TIEs and their frailty. I can see it more from the rebel side but they should call it 'Astromech repair' or something.
- U wings are rebel support ships. They can resupply missiles by dropping them in space for you to fly over like a power up.
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Loving it so far. There are some differences, but this definitely gets close to the old X-Wing series in terms of gameplay and visually looks amazing, especially the cap ships.

There are some issues with VR, but on the whole it works pretty good for me. Framerates are fine. Only real issues are the back ground images seem very fuzzy, and last night when I played the targeting reticule wasn't matching up with things on screen which made the first missions a lot harder, but haven't seen that bug again since playing today. Otherwise it feels fantastic to sit in the cockpit of an X-Wing and tear around the galaxy. I felt like a fanboi when I saw Wedge for the first time. :P


Planning on getting some fleet battles with some of my friends in tonight, so we'll see how multiplayer goes.
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