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Re: XBox One X (formerly Scorpio)

Post by disarm » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:41 pm

I've held off so far in hopes that they'll do some kind of bundle for the holidays. I have a 55" Samsung 4K already in place for when the day comes though.. M
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Post by pr0ner » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:43 am

Mine arrived today. I'm finishing up moving games from my One S to an external hard drive, then I'll set up the X tomorrow.

Can't wait to play more games in 4K and HDR.
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Post by stimpy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:33 pm

Didn't want to start a new thread and wasn't sure where else to ask, so I'll ask here.
Is this https://www.walmart.com/co/Xbox-One-S-B ... e/52110214
a good deal?
I currently have a original PS3 and the blu ray player is dying.
I don't play a ton of console games and I'd probably lean towards a PS4 for $200 on Black Friday unless this deal is way more worth it.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:42 pm

I have the S version like in the link, and I have no issues with it. It's not the spiffiest thing that just came out, but it's better than the launch version. I play it on my 4k (non-HDR) tv and it looks purty.

The PS4 would probably serve your needs just as well, especially if you don't have or expect to buy a 4k tv in the near future. And part of it, of course, is which console's exclusives and/or with whom you want to MP (if any) with.
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Post by stessier » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:06 am

I found this Gamespot review helpful in choosing between the S and X. The last paragraph lays out the value propisition for each group.
Should you get an Xbox One X? That answer should largely depend on whether you'd be happy with the console's library of games. You can check out a list of all the Xbox One X-enhanced games here. If you're happy with the lineup and are thinking about jumping in, allow me to outline three different scenarios for you. If you game on a 1080p TV and don't have any plans to upgrade to a 4K one, the Xbox One S is going to be a better fit for you. While you will get some graphical enhancements with the X, you don't really get your money's worth if you don't have a 4K HDR TV. But what if you already own a 4K HDR TV and an Xbox One? In this case, I'd only recommend getting the X if you have the disposable cash to spare for the increased visual fidelity and performance benefits. If you have a 4K HDR TV, don't have a current gen console, and are looking to purchase one, however, the Xbox One X is a great choice.
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Post by Carpet_pissr » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:31 pm

stimpy wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:33 pm
Didn't want to start a new thread and wasn't sure where else to ask, so I'll ask here.
Is this https://www.walmart.com/co/Xbox-One-S-B ... e/52110214
a good deal?
I currently have a original PS3 and the blu ray player is dying.
I don't play a ton of console games and I'd probably lean towards a PS4 for $200 on Black Friday unless this deal is way more worth it.
I'm in your exact situation. PS3 (original version!) still running strong, but will be upgrading the TV soon to 4K, HDR, and will move this PS3 to a different room (as long as it still lives).

Since PS3 games won't work on PS4, that really opens me up to being completely ambivalent about which new gen console to get. Crazy strategy by Sony if you ask me. If the PS4 could play PS3 games, I would absolutely be getting a PS4 next, no questions or research done prior.

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Post by stimpy » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:49 am

If I'm researching correctly, it seems the PS4 surprisingly doesnt have a 4K Blu-ray player, making the XBOX One S deal even more attractive.
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Re: XBox One X (formerly Scorpio)

Post by MonkeyFinger » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:15 am

True, with the S they switched to a UHD Blu-ray drive... but for me it's a non-issue as I have zero intention of buying anything in that format. :snooty:

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Post by stessier » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:29 pm

The Xbox One X will play all games labeled for Xbox One, right? No special labeling I should look for?
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Post by pr0ner » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:52 pm

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The Xbox One X will play all games labeled for Xbox One, right? No special labeling I should look for?
Correct. The One X is just a more powerful XBox One.

I've only really played CoD:WWII on it so far, but the game loads much faster than it did even on my One S (I drop into a MP match before anyone else, and even before the countdown timer starts), and the game looks better than it did on the S (and the S even allowed the HDR effects to be enabled). It's a definite improvement.
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Post by stessier » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:26 pm

Since the only one I've ever owned is the original XBox, I look forward to the changes. :)
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Post by hentzau » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:34 pm

I was beginning to think I had made a mistake with buying this to be my blu-ray player after Forbes reported that it was really a piss-poor HDR blu-ray player. But MS says a fix is coming.
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Post by pr0ner » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:30 pm

hentzau wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:34 pm
I was beginning to think I had made a mistake with buying this to be my blu-ray player after Forbes reported that it was really a piss-poor HDR blu-ray player. But MS says a fix is coming.
I never noticed anything off with the 4K player in the One S I owned, but apparently this update puts the 4K player in the One X in line with the better stand alone machines on the market. That's splendid news.
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:30 pm
hentzau wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:34 pm
I was beginning to think I had made a mistake with buying this to be my blu-ray player after Forbes reported that it was really a piss-poor HDR blu-ray player. But MS says a fix is coming.
I never noticed anything off with the 4K player in the One S I owned, but apparently this update puts the 4K player in the One X in line with the better stand alone machines on the market. That's splendid news.
I am in the Omega beta ring (the lowest one anyone can get) and received the update yesterday and it blessedly has fixed the UHD playback issue. I again have nice blacks! I am amazed it had such a basic problem but am glad to see MS quickly and transparently fixed it.
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Post by Carpet_pissr » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:59 pm

When I bought this PS3, I was heavily following A/V news at the time, and all the guys on the AVS forum were screaming to buy the PS3 for the excellent BR player in it alone (which was the only reason I bought it). Apparently Sony put a lot of their dev money into that component, even losing money on it initially, to spread BR usage.

Now, though, with 4K streaming available from multiple places, I am not as keen on whether or not my future PS3 replacement has the latest and greatest physical media player or not. As long as I can play the existing few Blu rays I have, I will be fine. I don't see me buying many more physical disks, no matter the format.

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Post by pr0ner » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 pm

4K UHD (aka HDR enabled) Blu Rays look superior to any 4K HDR content I've seen on Netflix.

Also, data caps - 4K content is HUGE in terms of the amount of data consumed in an hour.
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Post by Pyperkub » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:25 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 pm
4K UHD (aka HDR enabled) Blu Rays look superior to any 4K HDR content I've seen on Netflix.

Also, data caps - 4K content is HUGE in terms of the amount of data consumed in an hour.
on the xBox One X, or just a 4k BR player?
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pr0ner wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 pm
4K UHD (aka HDR enabled) Blu Rays look superior to any 4K HDR content I've seen on Netflix.

Also, data caps - 4K content is HUGE in terms of the amount of data consumed in an hour.
Seeing the remastered Blade Runner on UHD disk is easily one of the peak home theater experiences I've ever had. Streaming will not have the same wrapper to carry across the same 18gbs that the current hdmi standard allows. It's funny because last Christmas I bought the first TV I ever spent my own money on (besides Goodwill used CRT-style TV) and got a 4k and now bought the first game console I've ever spent my own money own. It's like I am a decade late to the super fun cool party. Best Buy just last week was shrinking their Xbox area (probably digital sales are hurting them) and nobody is interested in physical media anymore. Regardless, I am having a blast with this stuff!
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Post by stessier » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:50 pm

I'm on the same upgrade plan as you! Last Christmas a 55" 4K UHD with HDR TV. This Christmas, the XboX and Switch (although I did have a Wii that I bought and an original Xbox that was a gift). It really is a wonderful time to jump in - all the kinks have been worked out. :D
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Post by pr0ner » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:47 pm

Pyperkub wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:25 pm
pr0ner wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 pm
4K UHD (aka HDR enabled) Blu Rays look superior to any 4K HDR content I've seen on Netflix.

Also, data caps - 4K content is HUGE in terms of the amount of data consumed in an hour.
on the xBox One X, or just a 4k BR player?
I would assume on any 4K BR player, even the X once its issues get resolved.
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Post by stessier » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:54 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:47 pm
Pyperkub wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:25 pm
pr0ner wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:06 pm
4K UHD (aka HDR enabled) Blu Rays look superior to any 4K HDR content I've seen on Netflix.

Also, data caps - 4K content is HUGE in terms of the amount of data consumed in an hour.
on the xBox One X, or just a 4k BR player?
I would assume on any 4K BR player, even the X once its issues get resolved.
I think off of a disc, 4K HDR is 18.8 GB/hr. Netflix says 4K HDR streams are 7-10 GB/hr. Either way, it's a lot.
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Post by stessier » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:36 pm

Is there one must play game for the Xbox for someone who hasn't had one since the original Xbox? I'm not in to multiplayer and only like Football in the sports category, but I'm open to all other genres.
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Post by pr0ner » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:45 pm

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Is there one must play game for the Xbox for someone who hasn't had one since the original Xbox? I'm not in to multiplayer and only like Football in the sports category, but I'm open to all other genres.
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Post by Smoove_B » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:57 pm

Red Dead Redemption. The sequel is what will have me purchase a new Xbox if it doesn't come to PC.
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Post by Pyperkub » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:57 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:45 pm
stessier wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:36 pm
Is there one must play game for the Xbox for someone who hasn't had one since the original Xbox? I'm not in to multiplayer and only like Football in the sports category, but I'm open to all other genres.
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Well, if you got the xBox One x and have a 4k+HDR TV, I'd probably recommend something off of the xBox One X enhanced list, as long as it's available now (some are still "in development").

For Single Player, maybe Assassin's Creed: Origins, Gears of War 4, rise of the Tomb Raider or the enhanced version of LA Noire. (i haven't tried any yet - just Wolfenstein 2)
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Pyperkub wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:57 pm
pr0ner wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:45 pm
stessier wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:36 pm
Is there one must play game for the Xbox for someone who hasn't had one since the original Xbox? I'm not in to multiplayer and only like Football in the sports category, but I'm open to all other genres.
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Well, if you got the xBox One x and have a 4k+HDR TV, I'd probably recommend something off of the xBox One X enhanced list, as long as it's available now (some are still "in development").

For Single Player, maybe Assassin's Creed: Origins, Gears of War 4, rise of the Tomb Raider or the enhanced version of LA Noire. (i haven't tried any yet - just Wolfenstein 2)
Actually, that brings up a good point.

Stessier, which XBox are you buying? And do you have a 4K + HDR TV?
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Post by stessier » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:31 pm

Sorry - I got the Xbox One X because I do indeed have a 4k HDR TV.

I've never played a Call of Duty game but they say WWII version is supposed to be beautiful in HDR. Does that have any single player potential? Or split screen since I have an almost teenager I could play with.
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Post by wonderpug » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:33 pm

Have you been playing a lot of cross-platform titles on the PC? If not, that'd add quite a few more must-play games to the list.

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Post by pr0ner » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:43 pm

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Sorry - I got the Xbox One X because I do indeed have a 4k HDR TV.

I've never played a Call of Duty game but they say WWII version is supposed to be beautiful in HDR. Does that have any single player potential? Or split screen since I have an almost teenager I could play with.
Call of Duty WWII does look great in 4K and HDR.

Gears of War 4 and Halo 5 are also supposed to be exemplary in that format.
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wonderpug wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:33 pm
Have you been playing a lot of cross-platform titles on the PC? If not, that'd add quite a few more must-play games to the list.
No. It's pretty safe to assume I haven't played anything made in the last decade.
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stessier wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:31 pm
Sorry - I got the Xbox One X because I do indeed have a 4k HDR TV.

I've never played a Call of Duty game but they say WWII version is supposed to be beautiful in HDR. Does that have any single player potential? Or split screen since I have an almost teenager I could play with.
You may wish to get a sports game for split-screen, or maybe Forza 7.
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Post by wonderpug » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:52 pm

stessier wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:33 pm
wonderpug wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:33 pm
Have you been playing a lot of cross-platform titles on the PC? If not, that'd add quite a few more must-play games to the list.
No. It's pretty safe to assume I haven't played anything made in the last decade.
In that case, you really need to consider:
  • Tomb Raider (2013) - great reboot to the franchise
  • The Witcher 3, great RPG
  • Dishonored 1 and/or 2, particularly if you ever liked playing the Thief games back in the day
  • Forza or Forza Horizon, if you like racing games
  • XCOM 2
  • Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor - open world game in Middle Earth
  • Wolfenstein or sequel
  • Batman: Arkham Knight
Lots of good smaller indie games out there, too, if that's your cup of tea. I loved Firewatch, Steamworld Dig, Shovel Knight, Inside, Stardew Valley, Cuphead,

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Post by stessier » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:36 pm

Thanks for the list!

I've never played any of those games - or any version of them! Well, not entirely true - I played Wolfenstein back in 1993-ish...and I finally got the original X-COM around 2004. I haven't even played a Madden game - was a 2k player when we had the option.

I've played a lot of StarCraft, Borderlands, Civilization, and Diablo though. Not that I don't like other things, just never had much money for games and I could play those for many, many, many hours without getting bored.
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Post by pr0ner » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:07 pm

Oh man. I've poured SO MANY hours into Diablo 3 on my XBox One since I've gotten it, and that's after playing the PC version too.

It doesn't have HDR support, but it does have 4K through the XBox Enhanced thing.
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Post by disarm » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:16 am

I'm a couple chapters into Gears of War 4 in 4K HDR on my 55" Samsung 9000 series tv and it's pretty impressive. I'm playing with the high quality visuals as opposed to standard visuals at 60fps, and the overall image sharpness, texture detail, and colors are significantly better than anything I've seen on a console before. I didn't try GoW4 prior to having the One X, but I know no other game that I've played on the regular Xbox One comes close.

The difference is striking enough that I can't wait to see more 4K HDR games and am really looking forward to the Destiny 2 upgrade when it hits. The bright colors and various graphical effects in that game should look fantastic.
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Post by Enough » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:24 am

Ugh. Loved the X until tonight. Fire up the console and what?? It only shows 4 of my Xbox games installed out of my library of 51 games I had installed. I am on craptastic internet, that represents at least two weeks of downloading games. Over an hour with tech support to only try the two most basic things: hard power cycle and refresh profile. Games obviously still on hdd taking space but 47 show needing installs. Their solution is to send console in for a repair or do a factory reset and re-download all the games (that are already on the damn hard drive). I thought consoles were supposed to be easier than PC gaming?
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Post by Enough » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:58 pm

Just and update that it was a beta update that apparently fubar'd my external drive being correctly detected. I will be moving to a different hdd that can be seen by the X (The last one used to work, and still does on Windows. Absolutely nobody's solutions online will make the X detect it again) and have to redownload everything. Even leaving the beta did not make it see the drive again, arggg.
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Post by stessier » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:45 am

Does the Xbox One X come with a optical audio cable in the box or do I have to buy one separately? Hmmmm, do I even have to connect via optical cable? My receiver doesn't pass through 4k, so I'm connecting the Xbox directly to the TV via HDMI then I'll connect audio from Xbox to the receiver. Guess it could be standard cabling at that point.

So new question, anyone know what audio cables are included in the box? :)
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Re: XBox One X (formerly Scorpio)

Post by coopasonic » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:01 am

stessier wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:45 am
Does the Xbox One X come with a optical audio cable in the box or do I have to buy one separately? Hmmmm, do I even have to connect via optical cable? My receiver doesn't pass through 4k, so I'm connecting the Xbox directly to the TV via HDMI then I'll connect audio from Xbox to the receiver. Guess it could be standard cabling at that point.

So new question, anyone know what audio cables are included in the box? :)
So Destructoid just got its Xbox One X hardware for review (which is coming later), and yep, it's a box.

Inside this unassuming 1TB model is the actual unit (which is roughly the same size as the Xbox One S, just a smidgen smaller), the power cable, HDMI cable, standard controller (with AA batteries), an insert for a nominal amount of Xbox Live Gold and Game Pass time, and an instruction manual.
No dedicated audio cable.
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Re: XBox One X (formerly Scorpio)

Post by MonkeyFinger » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:44 am

When I had to run my two consoles directly to the TV for the same reason, I picked up a digital audio cable from monoprice.com, while I could have grabbed one locally from someplace like Best Buy they were stupid expensive. :evil:
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