Game of Thrones Season 7

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:12 am

Deanerys saving the day sounds like the kind of writing I'd expect from this show. One thing that kept the books interesting was that there wasn't a whole lot of day saving going on. That style of story is different from what we see every day on TV, so it was refreshing.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:23 am

My predictions for next episode

1. Dany will fly all three Dragons to save Jon & Co. They already strongly hinted they have a growing "affection" for each other
2. She'll lose one of the dragons and my guess it will be Viseron. The dragon she loses will be raised by the Night King..
3. Benjen will also show up and die saving Jon
4. Littlefinger will die in this upcoming episode or the last.

MHS · Post by **MHS** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:25 am

McNutt wrote:I know it's hard to cast kids as siblings, but watching Sansa looking down over a foot to talk to Arya was pretty funny. There is no universe in which these two could pass as even cousins.

I don't have a big problem with this. I can chalk it up to Sansa not having skipped many meals of boar and lemon cakes and buttered neeps while Arya was starving in Flea Bottom, at important times in their maturation and development.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:36 am

What's the over/under on a wight in King's Landing somehow converting FrankenGregor to its side?

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:46 am

tru1cy wrote:My predictions for next episode

1. Dany will fly all three Dragons to save Jon & Co. They already strongly hinted they have a growing "affection" for each other
2. She'll lose one of the dragons and my guess it will be Viseron
3. Benjen will also show up and die saving Jon
4. Littlefinger will die in this upcoming episode or the last.

I would also be chocked if the season doesn't end with the wall coming down.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:54 am

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I would also be chocked if the season doesn't end with the wall coming down.

Because a zombie that doesn't breath blows a magic horn capable of destroying a wall that has stood for thousands of years?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:17 am

McNutt wrote:Deanerys saving the day sounds like the kind of writing I'd expect from this show. One thing that kept the books interesting was that there wasn't a whole lot of day saving going on. That style of story is different from what we see every day on TV, so it was refreshing.

Actually thinking about it some more I think I'm leaning more towards a children of the forest appearance. One because the "Last Hero" story which this mission seems to be evoking involves the hero making contact with the children of the forest, and because that would open up more storytelling opportunities for learning about the white walkers and how to defeat them.

We'll see, though.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:21 am

Sam is already riding to the rescue with his cart of books and scrolls. Although the cart only goes about 2 miles per hour he should be at the wall in about 3 hours.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:31 pm

imgur series worth a peruse

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:36 pm

Very nice.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:59 pm

I see they also picked up on the tragedy of the missed loot.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:06 pm

Didn't all the children of the forest get killed by the white walkers in the hold the door incident?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:07 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Didn't all the children of the forest get killed by the white walkers in the hold the door incident?

All of them in the world? Why would we think that?

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:41 pm

Zaxxon wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Didn't all the children of the forest get killed by the white walkers in the hold the door incident?
All of them in the world? Why would we think that?

I thought it was mentioned that they were the last.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:48 pm

msteelers wrote:
Zaxxon wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Didn't all the children of the forest get killed by the white walkers in the hold the door incident?
All of them in the world? Why would we think that?
I thought it was mentioned that they were the last.

If it was, I missed it. Which is certainly possible.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:13 pm

msteelers wrote:
Zaxxon wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Didn't all the children of the forest get killed by the white walkers in the hold the door incident?
All of them in the world? Why would we think that?
I thought it was mentioned that they were the last.

I can't remember now why I thought they were all gone. Perhaps they did mention something like that?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:09 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
msteelers wrote:
Zaxxon wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Didn't all the children of the forest get killed by the white walkers in the hold the door incident?
All of them in the world? Why would we think that?
I thought it was mentioned that they were the last.
I can't remember now why I thought they were all gone. Perhaps they did mention something like that?

It seems like they're in the "few to none" around category. But even if there was something in an earlier episode saying that they were wiped out, that presumably would be from the knowledge of whichever character, and wouldn't foreclose a small number (possibly even just one or two) that survived in hiding.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:45 pm

My admittedly vague and not-to-be-trusted recollection was that the Children themselves said they were the last remaining.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:51 pm

Arya Stark: A master of concealment.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:53 pm

Yeah, there was a lot of stupid in that episode.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:54 pm

wonderpug wrote:imgur series worth a peruse

Whelp, this is the best thing I've seen all day.

It's very subtle!

EvilHomer3k · Post by **EvilHomer3k** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:40 pm

I am okay with Jaime living. My assumption is that Bronn dragged him to the other side and Daeneris just let him go. Killing him has no real benefit. She destroyed his army and knows that he knows they are screwed. If she kills him Cersei will use the green fire to defend kings landing even if it means completely blowing it up.

I'm also fine with Jon going to get the wight. At any part in the show, has anyone, other than a Lannister, sent someone else to do anything? Even the lannisters, only send important characters. The show is about the Starks, Lannisters, Targs, etc. Not about a bunch or red shirts.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:52 pm

EvilHomer3k wrote:I am okay with Jaime living. My assumption is that Bronn dragged him to the other side and Daeneris just let him go. Killing him has no real benefit. She destroyed his army and knows that he knows they are screwed. If she kills him Cersei will use the green fire to defend kings landing even if it means completely blowing it up.

I'm also fine with Jon going to get the wight. At any part in the show, has anyone, other than a Lannister, sent someone else to do anything? Even the lannisters, only send important characters. The show is about the Starks, Lannisters, Targs, etc. Not about a bunch or red shirts.

Holding Jaime prisoner, on the other hand, would have a huge benefit.

gameoverman · Post by **gameoverman** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:48 pm

I can meet the writers halfway. For instance, I can accept that Davos gets Tyrion on that beach secretly because it's been established that Davos specializes in sneaking people into dangerous areas. I can accept that Tyrion can get Bronn to bring Jaime to the meeting, because it's been established that he and Bronn are on good terms, and it's been established that Tyrion knows how to sneak out of the city so he can sneak in too. There's no need for them to waste screen time on how all this was done.

But something like Jaime and Bronn escaping the water? Dany and Tyrion just leaving when it's impossible to miss Bronn racing up to save Jaime? Bronn would have had a hell of a task just retrieving Jaime and dragging him to the shore right there, forget about a long swim. Nothing that has previously been shown gives me a clue on knowing what the writers were hoping to communicate here, other than "They got away, trust us".

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:25 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:Holding Jaime prisoner, on the other hand, would have a huge benefit.

Dany said this episode that she wouldn't be keeping anyone as a prisoner. She is the Breaker of Chains, she doesn't put people in them.

If Jaime was captured he would have been forced to bend the knee or die. There is no way Jaime bends the knee.

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:09 pm

I'm completely fine with the teleporting and things being a fast forward this season. I've been waiting just about 17 years, since Storm of Swords, to finally see these events unfold. I'm ok with the pace being picked up a bit.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:27 pm

Ok, I need help with this one last one where he says "Capture a wight? We'll die. What are we, some kind of. . ."

What was he going to say?

MonkeyFinger · Post by **MonkeyFinger** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:49 pm

McNutt wrote:Ok, I need help with this one last one where he says "Capture a wight? We'll die. What are we, some kind of. . ."

What was he going to say?

Expendable but familiar character to kill off during a suicide mission in order to heighten drama without really sacrificing anything.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:57 pm

Ah. Thanks.

Daveman · Post by **Daveman** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:11 pm

wonderpug wrote:imgur series worth a peruse

That is nice... reminds me a lot of the "If Game of Thrones were on Facebook" series that stopped a few seasons ago. Wonder what happened to it?

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:56 am

msteelers wrote:
ImLawBoy wrote:Holding Jaime prisoner, on the other hand, would have a huge benefit.
Dany said this episode that she wouldn't be keeping anyone as a prisoner. She is the Breaker of Chains, she doesn't put people in them.

If Jaime was captured he would have been forced to bend the knee or die. There is no way Jaime bends the knee.

Yeah, but that's patently stupid. If the choice is bend the knee or die, then you're essentially forcing people into servitude (or they die). So if I'm trying to fix some of the problems of the last episode, one of those problems I'm going to fix is Dany not knowing the difference between a slave and a prisoner of war.

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:17 am

McNutt wrote:Ok, I need help with this one last one where he says "Capture a wight? We'll die. What are we, some kind of. . ."

What was he going to say?

Suicide squad.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:32 am

McNutt wrote:Ok, I need help with this one last one where he says "Capture a wight? We'll die. What are we, some kind of. . ."

What was he going to say?

Monsters?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:28 am

McNutt wrote:Ok, I need help with this one last one where he says "Capture a wight? We'll die. What are we, some kind of. . ."

What was he going to say?

Wonderful?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:35 am

Rhaegar & Lyanna: But that's a sadder story

A fan film, mixing footage from GoT, Merlin, Reign, and The Tutors. Remarkably well done.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:37 am

Careful as next episode has leaked and spoilers are everywhere

Spoiler:

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:52 am

Spoilers for this upcoming Sunday. Could not help myself.

Spoiler:

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:18 pm

That was both preposterous and completely and totally epic.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:35 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:That was both preposterous and completely and totally epic.

Totes!

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:41 pm

Spoilers for episode 6 below:

The just-in-the-nick-of-time moments were way too much for me. Preposterous indeed.

Any time you saw a member of the party that you didn't recognize you realized they were going to die in a few seconds.

I wasn't even thinking about pulling that dragon out to make an undead dragon. That was cool. I have no idea where a bunch of zombies got 30 tons worth of chains though. Is that standard zombie army supplies?

This show is going off the rails, but it's still interesting in a guilty pleasure way, just not a quality storytelling way.