Kelric wrote:Jon's honor doesn't matter - the duty to the realm does. What can protect the realm better than giving it a strong king and queen? And I've never thought Dany is permanently barren. Otherwise the Targaryen's die out with her unless Jon has kids on some other woman.
Both of those strike me as too convenient for Martin. He never takes the easy road out.
You can't un-join the Night's Watch. In their history dating back some 8,000 years, nobody has ever been dismissed from service (or at least that's the impression we get). It's for life. Two kings - Stannis and Robb - have both offered to dismiss Jon from the Wall (though he only knows of one) and Cersai had it in her head that she could bring Kettleblack back once he'd made his mischief with Margery Tyrell, but to date this has never happened. Not with Jon, not with Maester Aemon - it's unheard of. Now factor in the idea that Jon is Lord Commander. He has a responsibility to his men. He can't just step down from that, in addition to the fact that you can't un-join the Night's Watch.
I may be proven wrong, only time will tell, but I just can't picture a scenario where Jon decides it's OK to step down from the Night's Watch and marry Dany. I'm increasingly convinced that won't happen - it would be too clean, even predictable, for Martin.
Likewise, you can't sell Dany as barren (which she clearly believes she is) and then just say 'Just kidding!' later on. At least, not if you're Martin. She will never have children in the traditional sense. I liken it to death in Westeros. Sure, in a very small set of circumstances, the dead don't stay down. You might be brought back by Thoros of Myr as happened with Dondarrion (and indirectly to Catlyn). You might come back as a wight. You might even come back as Coldhands, who appears to be a Black Brother who somehow retained or regained a personality despite being turned at least partway into a wight. Hell, you might even be reanimated as some sort of a zombie by a quirky ex-maester working for the Queen. But you DO NOT just get up and start prancing around hale and healthy and 'all's right with the world' as if you'd never been hung, stabbed, beaten, drowned, poisoned, or killed in some other grizzly fashion.
With that as the boundary of medical miracles in the world of GRRM, I think it's unlikely that Dany will pop kids out of her womb in the future. She's the Mother of Dragons. She's the mother of all the slaves she has freed. I don't see her being the mother of actual human babies without some sort of grand sacrifice of a kind I cannot even fathom.
Edit: Can't remember how to spell Circe or Cersai or Cirsei