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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by Pyperkub » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:11 pm

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I agree with most that books 7-10 are weaker than the rest of the series. When I read them as they came out I got frustrated as well. I do think they hold up much better when you read the series as a whole with no waiting between books.
I don't think they are weaker, but I did find it frustrating trying to read them as they came out. It seems like a huge detour but when you are able to read them back to back, it really provides a nice fleshing out of the story and I really enjoyed them.

I really loved this series.
They were definitely weaker as they came out, because nothing really happened in them (though they did lay some groundwork for the later resolutions). From my recollection, book 11 was well on the same pace, until I think he realized he didn't have time to finish it and then after 3.5 books and 2000+ pages, he finally started tying up threads, and he actually did FAR too many at once. Sanderson did a good job (actually, fantastic, all things considered) finishing up the series, but it did take him a while to get the characters right, and the 1st book he wrote doesn't flow quite as well as the last 2, or his own stuff.
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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by Scraper » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:49 am

There is one book in the series that is entirely skippable. I think it's either 9 or 10 I can't remember which. But after that one the series gets really good again.
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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by Paingod » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:26 am

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There is one book in the series that is entirely skippable. I think it's either 9 or 10 I can't remember which. But after that one the series gets really good again.
Agreed. I think I bought it on my Kindle and flew through it in record time - basically skimming each page looking for one of the 20 characters that actually matter to the overall plot or that I liked.
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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by Moliere » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:17 am

The first book is available for free:

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Post by Moat_Man » Fri May 25, 2018 10:01 pm

Ok folks, I'm diving in. I started Eye of the World on May 14th, 2018. I'm in the club that read up to book 8 or 9 and then decided to wait until the series was finished. It's been a long time so I'm starting over on a Kindle. Wish me luck!
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The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
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Dum dum duuuuuuuum...
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Post by Paingod » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:31 am

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The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
You'll have to re-read the whole series again to find out.
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Post by Moat_Man » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:35 am

Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 am
The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
The Great Hunt has been completed and Ba'alzamon defeated... again! Or has he?
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I never reviewed the first book in my completion post in June. I read it many moons ago but my main takeaway from this readthrough was that it took a really long time to get going. I kept thinking Rand would channel earlier but he actually only channeled at the very end of the book. I wish he had done it a bit earlier as I enjoy those parts the most. I know he will do it more as the books go by so I have more to look forward to. In case you are wondering I think I read up to book 7.
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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by Fitzy » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:13 pm

Moat_Man wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:35 am
Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 am
The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
The Great Hunt has been completed and Ba'alzamon defeated... again! Or has he?
Spoiler:
I never reviewed the first book in my completion post in June. I read it many moons ago but my main takeaway from this readthrough was that it took a really long time to get going. I kept thinking Rand would channel earlier but he actually only channeled at the very end of the book. I wish he had done it a bit earlier as I enjoy those parts the most. I know he will do it more as the books go by so I have more to look forward to. In case you are wondering I think I read up to book 7.
About your spoiler
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He channeled before the end. Though not on purpose.

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Post by Moat_Man » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:27 pm

Fitzy wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:13 pm
Moat_Man wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:35 am
Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 am
The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
The Great Hunt has been completed and Ba'alzamon defeated... again! Or has he?
Spoiler:
I never reviewed the first book in my completion post in June. I read it many moons ago but my main takeaway from this readthrough was that it took a really long time to get going. I kept thinking Rand would channel earlier but he actually only channeled at the very end of the book. I wish he had done it a bit earlier as I enjoy those parts the most. I know he will do it more as the books go by so I have more to look forward to. In case you are wondering I think I read up to book 7.
About your spoiler
Spoiler:
He channeled before the end. Though not on purpose.
Right:
Spoiler:
I forgot about the back room in the inn where things basically exploded. If I remember correctly (and I think I read that part twice as it happened so quick) there wasn't any buildup or reaching out to Saidin. Bam, it just happened and the room was shattered.

Anyway, I stand corrected. Let me elaborate by saying that I enjoy the parts about him actively channeling the most. :D
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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by Fitzy » Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:38 pm

Moat_Man wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:27 pm
Fitzy wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:13 pm
Moat_Man wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:35 am
Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 am
The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
The Great Hunt has been completed and Ba'alzamon defeated... again! Or has he?
Spoiler:
I never reviewed the first book in my completion post in June. I read it many moons ago but my main takeaway from this readthrough was that it took a really long time to get going. I kept thinking Rand would channel earlier but he actually only channeled at the very end of the book. I wish he had done it a bit earlier as I enjoy those parts the most. I know he will do it more as the books go by so I have more to look forward to. In case you are wondering I think I read up to book 7.
About your spoiler
Spoiler:
He channeled before the end. Though not on purpose.
Right:
Spoiler:
I forgot about the back room in the inn where things basically exploded. If I remember correctly (and I think I read that part twice as it happened so quick) there wasn't any buildup or reaching out to Saidar. Bam, it just happened and the room was shattered.

Anyway, I stand corrected. Let me elaborate by saying that I enjoy the parts about him actively channeling the most. :D
Also:
Spoiler:
He refreshed Bela, most likely his first though I sometimes wonder about the woods outside his home, after the Trolloc attack. Also he moved the big wooden thing on the ship to kill a Trolloc when he, Mat, and Thom jumped onboard.

These correspond to the three times in EotW where Rand gets ill/crazy:

Bela (and/or woods): in Barelon confronting the Whitecloaks
Moving the wooden thingie: on the ship imitating an acrobat
Back room boom: on the road to Caemlyn where he appeared to have the flu.

But I understand your point about active channeling. One thing I loved about WoT is that Rand is ridiculously powerful and it’s shown. Too many reluctant heroes refuse their power or can’t use it. I’m looking at you Richard Cypher/Rahl.

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Post by Moat_Man » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:03 pm

Moat_Man wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:35 am
Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 am
The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
The Great Hunt has been completed and Ba'alzamon defeated... again! Or has he?
The Dragon has been Reborn! Long live The Dragon!

Remember how I wanted more of Rand channeling? The Dragon Reborn is 2.3948% Rand. Other than that smidgeon it is mostly about, and pretty evenly split between, Egwene, Perrin and Matt. Luckily their parts are good and the story continues to pull me along. Here is complete breakdown of POV word count:
http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/Statistical_analysis

My pace slowed a bit. I took a few weeks off but then got sucked back in and finished the last half of the book in three days. A five hour plane flight helped. :) On to the next one...
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Post by Kelric » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:15 pm

Fitzy wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:38 pm
Spoiler:
He refreshed Bela, most likely his first though I sometimes wonder about the woods outside his home, after the Trolloc attack. Also he moved the big wooden thing on the ship to kill a Trolloc when he, Mat, and Thom jumped onboard.

These correspond to the three times in EotW where Rand gets ill/crazy:

Bela (and/or woods): in Barelon confronting the Whitecloaks
Moving the wooden thingie: on the ship imitating an acrobat
Back room boom: on the road to Caemlyn where he appeared to have the flu.

But I understand your point about active channeling. One thing I loved about WoT is that Rand is ridiculously powerful and it’s shown. Too many reluctant heroes refuse their power or can’t use it. I’m looking at you Richard Cypher/Rahl.
I have not read them in quite some time, but what was the time difference between
Spoiler:
The night of the Trolloc attack on the farm and the chase where he helps the horse carry Egwene harder/faster/stronger?

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Post by Fitzy » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:40 am

Kelric wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:15 pm
Fitzy wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:38 pm
Spoiler:
He refreshed Bela, most likely his first though I sometimes wonder about the woods outside his home, after the Trolloc attack. Also he moved the big wooden thing on the ship to kill a Trolloc when he, Mat, and Thom jumped onboard.

These correspond to the three times in EotW where Rand gets ill/crazy:

Bela (and/or woods): in Barelon confronting the Whitecloaks
Moving the wooden thingie: on the ship imitating an acrobat
Back room boom: on the road to Caemlyn where he appeared to have the flu.

But I understand your point about active channeling. One thing I loved about WoT is that Rand is ridiculously powerful and it’s shown. Too many reluctant heroes refuse their power or can’t use it. I’m looking at you Richard Cypher/Rahl.
I have not read them in quite some time, but what was the time difference between
Spoiler:
The night of the Trolloc attack on the farm and the chase where he helps the horse carry Egwene harder/faster/stronger?
Spoiler:
Rand arrived around dawn after the attack. Tam got healed, Rand slept, but woke around nightfall. Lan insists they leave. I think it was that night he refreshed Bela. I don’t think Rand slept longer than a couple hours.So unless I’m misremembering when they stop to refresh or Rand slept more than 24 hours, the chase was the next night after the Trolloc attack.

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Post by Moat_Man » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:16 am

Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:03 pm
Moat_Man wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:35 am
Moat_Man wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 am
The Eye of the World has been finished and Ba'alzamon has been defeated, or has he?
The Great Hunt has been completed and Ba'alzamon defeated... again! Or has he?
The Dragon has been Reborn! Long live The Dragon!
The Shadow definitely Rose. The story is still moving along at a decent clip. Still motivated to keep zipping though them. Hopefully I can finish another one before the year is out.
Spoiler:
This one had the good guys playing Forsaken whack-a-mole. And yet, no casualties...
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Post by JCC » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:16 am

A little over a week ago I finished a re-read of the whole 15 books (including prequel). I really enjoyed it (again), and would have to say it's my favorite fantasy series. The slower books are definitely more palatable today when the whole series is complete versus back in the day when you waited years for the next book. It is noticeable how much quicker the pace is when Sanderson takes over, but given where the story was in Jordan's last book, I assume that would have happened even if Jordan hadn't passed away. (Perhaps the RELEASE pace would have been slower. haha!)

Anyway, this was only my second read-through of the last Jordan book and the Sanderson books (I re-read the series before every new book came out from book 4 on - until the final Jordan book came out and I was so frustrated with the pace I vowed to never pick up the series again until it was finished). The final book and the Last Battle are so awesome. It's so great to finally get there after so many books of build up and it doesn't disappoint. Tons of characters you like (and don't like) kicking all kinds of ass. It's hard to believe a battle built up to over such a long series more than lives up to the hype.

Anyway, it truly is a magnificent series even with its many warts. And, the ending is as close to perfect as it could be. Part of me wishes the epilogue could be a bit longer, but it's probably better as is. My only real gripe with the Sanderson books is (to me) my favorite character Mat is just a bit "off". The Mat sections of the story are awesome, but he just feels a bit different when Sanderson writes him. I believe Sanderson admitted he had the hardest time with Mat. Still, it's a minor thing. Mat is SO the man in these books. So many of his great moments have me laughing out loud.

I am intrigued to see if Amazon truly does a series. I would think you would need a good 10 seasons at minimum to do the story justice, so I am skeptical any series will be a real success, but we'll see...

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Post by Moat_Man » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:39 am

I finished The Fires of Heaven on January 2nd so I'm still clipping along at a decent pace. I've barely picked up the next one though so there might be a week or two break before I suck it up and get going on Lord of Chaos.
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Post by Jeff V » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 am

I picked up the first book on audio from the library, I'll be starting it on my drive home from work today.

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