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Post by Crux » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:39 am

stessier wrote:Blood and bloody ashes - I think I just figured out a plot point...on my seventh read through of Fires of Heaven.
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Galad is Rand's half brother, isn't he? Which would make Elayne his step sister kind of/sort of/maybe...not really....but a little freaky like.

If I'm wrong, don't tell me what the right answer is. I'll figure it out before Book 14 with some luck... :D
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Rand and Elayne's blood 'relation' is so far distant as to be practice nonexistent. They're essentially incredibly distant cousins.
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Re: Wheel of Time - Giving It Another Spin (Har Har)

Post by stessier » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:33 pm

Crux wrote:
stessier wrote:Blood and bloody ashes - I think I just figured out a plot point...on my seventh read through of Fires of Heaven.
Spoiler:
Galad is Rand's half brother, isn't he? Which would make Elayne his step sister kind of/sort of/maybe...not really....but a little freaky like.

If I'm wrong, don't tell me what the right answer is. I'll figure it out before Book 14 with some luck... :D
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Rand and Elayne's blood 'relation' is so far distant as to be practice nonexistent. They're essentially incredibly distant cousins.
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If it really is Galad, there is no blood at all between Rand and Elayne.

Can't remember the fathers's names but -

Tigraine + Father begat Galad
Tigraine + Aiel Father begat Rand
Father + Morgase begat Elayne and Gwayne.

So no blood between Rand and Elayne.
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Post by Odin » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:57 am

Zaxxon wrote:And I meant to mention in my last post--the ending to book 6 lived up to my memory of it from 13 years ago...
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The Healing of Logain/Siuan/Leane, The birth of the asha'man and the Black Tower, Rand's capture, the battle at Dumai's Wells. Once the 300-page middle section of dreamwalking and Min-on-the-knee ended, good stuff all around.
The ending of Lord of Chaos was one of the greatest reading experiences of my life at the time I read it - and almost ruined the series for me. It was so awesome that when book 7 went back to covering comparatively mundane stuff about Rand & Co., I got very discouraged. It was particularly disheartening because - at that time - everybody (probably including Rigney/Jordan himself) believed that the end of the series would occur within another book or so, making Lord of Chaos practically the climax of the series, rather than right smack in the middle as it turned out to be. On re-read, I wasn't quite as impressed with LoC as I once had been, but neither was I as disappointed with the books that followed.

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Post by malchior » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:26 pm

I'm in the middle of 13 and I'm finding it is flowing well and the story has been pretty good so far. Many of the minor characters seem to have been banished to passing mentions so it has been more straight forward IMO. It is not nearly as convoluted as some of the other books have been at times.

My only real criticism is that the 3 book split rears its head at the beginning of this book as some of the chapters at the beginning of 13 belong somewhere in the last third of book 12. When Jordan did simultaneous events previously he at least generally referenced an external event to keep the timelines straight. Unless I'm missing it that courtesy has been largely omitted which is a little confusing. That discontinuity only lasts about 10 chapters or so and then everything is back in sync so it isn't terrible by any stretch.
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Edit: And I'm not talking about a certain event in the prologue which are intentionally out of order for dramatic flair.

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Post by stessier » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:16 pm

Fires of Heaven have been extinguished - let Chaos reign!
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Post by stessier » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:59 pm

Been a while - I'm having Memories of Light.
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Post by Zaxxon » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:45 pm

Halfway through Path of Daggers here.

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Post by stessier » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:54 pm

47% into Memories of Light
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Finally, finally, finally Demandred shows up. I can't believe I never considered he was just chillin' on the other continent. I look forward to the Seanchan turning his army into paste. :D
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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:31 pm

Finished Path of Daggers over lunch today. Didn't find it nearly as tedious as some reviews had led me to believe.

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Post by rshetts2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:47 pm

After a 20 year ride, I've finally finished the series. Big props to Jordans heirs for getting Sanderson to finish this off. I think he did a fantastic job of picking up where Jordan left off and finished the series in top notch fashion. He did a great job of weaving a lot of peripheral characters into the storyline while keeping his focus on the main characters. There's a few stories I would like to hear but I doubt we will ever get the continuing adventures of Mat Cauthon, anytime soon. So I guess now it's time for the movie rights to get sold. I figure if they start soon the might just get them in before I kick it.
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Post by stessier » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:18 am

Egads!

67% through Memories of Light -
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I just got to Chapter 37- The Last Battle. It's 200 pages long! Should I wait to read it until I have the time to do it at one sitting or is going about it in my usual 1 hour time periods going to work?
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Post by Kelric » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:19 am

stessier, I'd say try and get it done in one sitting.

And a comment on your spoiler from the other post...
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I never thought of Demandred being on the other side of the Waste either. Once the main nations were basically out of the realm of possibility I thought he may have been sitting over in Seanchan building a new power base.

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Post by stessier » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:36 am

Kelric wrote:stessier, I'd say try and get it done in one sitting.
Thanks!
And a comment on your spoiler from the other post...
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I never thought of Demandred being on the other side of the Waste either. Once the main nations were basically out of the realm of possibility I thought he may have been sitting over in Seanchan building a new power base.
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I know, right? And we should have realized it because if you read the glossary, the Sharans had fairly extensive entries suggesting that Jordan hadn't forgotten about them even if we had. :)
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Post by stessier » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:39 am

92% through Memories of Light
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I kept trying to find a 4 hour block to read The Last Battle and every time I thought I found one I got called into work. Finally got it last night - and really needed like 7 hours to finish the whole book because it was darn hard to stop after Chapter 37. I read to Chapter 41 and finally had to quit because I have to catch a plane today and know I'll be in charge of the kids when I get home. Staying up to 1am would have been a poor choice - darn adult responsibilities!!!!

From what I did read - Wow. I knew we would have to kill off some people, but it was still pretty sad. Egwene going down was probably the saddest for me although not unexpected. When Brigette went down it was surprising but it was so quick I figured she would come back with the Horn and was quickly rewarded. Nice to see Noal is now tied to the horn, although I was hoping a few more would be as well. Lan using Sheath the Sword seemed to be the obvious ending to me once he started the fight - glad he appears to have survived it.

I've got like 70 pages left and 3 hours of flights. Should be done today and then it's on to the other thread.
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Post by stessier » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:58 pm

Done.
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Post by Zaxxon » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:26 pm

Just finished Winter's Heart.
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That was a pretty epic final chapter.

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Post by Zaxxon » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:05 pm

And Crossroads of Twilight is down. Took a big break halfway through this one...
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I didn't think it was as bad as the general consensus seems to be, but there was a dearth of really big events. At least it was a relatively short book by WoT standards.

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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:55 pm

Egads, a 92-page prologue for Knife of Dreams...

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Post by Zaxxon » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:33 am

Zaxxon wrote:Egads, a 92-page prologue for Knife of Dreams...
...Aanndd Knife of Dreams was laid to rest yesterday evening.
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Fun ending. A handful of Reds walking into the Black Tower, surrounded by so many Asha'man? Awwwkwaaarrrddd...

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Post by Odin » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:36 am

I'm probably going to have to re-read this whole series a couple of more times over the years. I feel like I know the first 6 books or so by heart and have a very strong sense of the events that take place in them. The later books are a bit of a blur, with certain major events standing out in my memory but a lot of the detail being lost, particularly what happens in which book. I'm glad it's finished, though.

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Post by stessier » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:02 pm

I'm nearly done with First Spring. I really wish someone would finish that trilogy as well. I wish I were back where Zaxxon is for the first time. I guess I just love that universe.
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Post by Zaxxon » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:43 pm

Gathering Storm is finished. Onto Towers of Midnight!

That Sanderson guy knows how to write a book.

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Post by disarm » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:24 pm

I haven't posted an update on my progress in a while, but I recently started Winter's Heart...finally well into territory that I haven't read before, and I'm excited to see what happens 8-)
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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:48 pm

Zaxxon wrote:Gathering Storm is finished. Onto Towers of Midnight!
Towers of Midnight down! Onward to A Memory of Light!

Also, this remains true:
That Sanderson guy knows how to write a book.

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Post by Jag » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:18 pm

Reading Sanderson's Words of Radiance, Book 2 of the Stormlight Archive. I have the same feeling about this series I had when I started Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time. This will be Sanderson's opus.

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Post by stessier » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:19 pm

Enjoy!

You will hit a chapter that is long even for this series. IMHO, it's best read in one sitting. YMMV. :)
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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:19 pm

Jag wrote:Reading Sanderson's Words of Radiance, Book 2 of the Stormlight Archive. I have the same feeling about this series I had when I started Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time. This will be Sanderson's opus.
I have had so many people tell me I need to read Stormlight, but I'm holding out until the series is done. The one advantage of Stormlight over GoT and WoT is that it won't take 20+ years to finish writing...

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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:21 pm

Jag wrote:Reading Sanderson's Words of Radiance, Book 2 of the Stormlight Archive. I have the same feeling about this series I had when I started Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time. This will be Sanderson's opus.
Opus just means "work". Now if it's his greatest work, that's where "magnum" comes in.
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Post by Jag » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:01 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Jag wrote:Reading Sanderson's Words of Radiance, Book 2 of the Stormlight Archive. I have the same feeling about this series I had when I started Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time. This will be Sanderson's opus.
Opus just means "work". Now if it's his greatest work, that's where "magnum" comes in.
Oh, whatever :doh: :lol: :D

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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:53 pm

Just got to the 'The Last Battle' chapter. Kindle estimates 3 hours 39 min. For one chapter. Yegads.

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Post by stessier » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:09 pm

Good luck! See you on the other side!!
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Zaxxon wrote:
Jag wrote:Reading Sanderson's Words of Radiance, Book 2 of the Stormlight Archive. I have the same feeling about this series I had when I started Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time. This will be Sanderson's opus.
I have had so many people tell me I need to read Stormlight, but I'm holding out until the series is done. The one advantage of Stormlight over GoT and WoT is that it won't take 20+ years to finish writing...
I think Sanderson is planning 10 books. The first two are both a thousand pages and were published 4 years apart. Sure it won't take 20 years.

Also reading Words of Radiance is what has convinced me to finish WoT. I need to see how Sanderson finishes this thing off.
coopasonic wrote:8 years ago (this month even), A new book came out the day before I moved to Texas. I bought it and have read approximately 12 pages of it. I think 2 or 3 books have come out since then and I may have even bought one when I was being optimistic. it's been so log I would probably have to re-read the series to get back in the groove.. that wouldn't be bad for the first 3 books, but after that... bleh.

When it's all over I'll look for a nice synopsis on the net.
I posted that 8 MORE years ago. I am a third of the way through uhh... book 8 I think. It will take forever to get to the Sanderson books. Oh and I don't remember ANYTHING, but I am not re-reading.
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Post by Zaxxon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:35 pm

Coop, Sanderson is a writing fiend. A big part of the recent delay was finishing WoT. I fully expect that 4-year average to drop.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:46 pm

All the man does is write and teach. He keeps his website updated with his progress on various projects. At the moment, it has listed:

Firefight 2nd Draft 100%
Sixth of the Dusk 3rd Draft 100%
Legion: Skin Deep 1st Draft 100%
Rithmatist 2 prewriting 10%

Book 3 of the Stormlight Archive, per Wiki, is scheduled for Spring 2016.
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Post by coopasonic » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:02 pm

2 years per book * 8 more books = 16 years assuming he doesn't burn out

I just hope I can still read by then.
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Post by Odin » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:53 pm

I read the three original Mistborn books (after finishing WoT and wanting to try some more Sanderson without making a big commitment) and only happened to stumble across the related novel (Alloy of Law) at the library. I like both his handling of the Robert Jordan stuff (it takes a certain talent to not just write a novel well, but to do so while writing in the style of another author) and his own stuff, so I'll undoubtedly read more of it. I'm hesitant to enter into any more long, incomplete series at this point, however. Jordan and Martin have pretty well soured me on that, much as I've generally loved their work.

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Post by Zaxxon » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:31 pm

Finished! The last few hundred pages were impossible to put down. Now on to some 300-page books!

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Post by disarm » Sun May 18, 2014 9:11 am

After a drop in my available reading time recently, I finally finished Book 9 a few days ago...was a pretty uneventful addition to the series with the exception of one major scene at the very end, but Jordan was a good enough writer that it for the most part never really felt like a slog to get through. I'll be starting Crossroads of Twilight soon (the remaining supposed low point in the series) and am still enjoying it overall. My original goal was to finish by the end of this year...with life getting in the way of reading a bit more recently, l'll see how it goes...
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Post by YellowKing » Sun May 18, 2014 12:36 pm

I've got about 700 pages to go in Book 14. It's been pretty good so far, though. I'm looking forward to putting this series behind me once and for all. It's been a rollercoaster of excitement, love, hate, boredom, and braid tugging all mixed together.

Interesting that I started this post 8 years ago and I'm still not finished with the damn thing. :D

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Post by Odin » Sun May 18, 2014 2:02 pm

YellowKing wrote:Interesting that I started this post 8 years ago and I'm still not finished with the damn thing. :D
Apparently, you read like Jordan writes. Well, wrote, anyway. :D

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