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Order of the Stick - General Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:28 pm
by SpaceLord

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:55 pm
by Isgrimnur
Thanks for digging up the original prophecy. I hadn't thought about it in a while.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:17 pm
by stessier
I keep getting a "504 Gateway Timeout" error when I try to access OOTS. Been that way for weeks. :(

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:57 pm
by Isgrimnur
Yeah, getting there has been a little troublesome lately. I had to refresh a few times to get both OOTS and Erfworld to load today.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:01 pm
by Zinfan
And also from the past... our three fiends

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0380.html" target="_blank

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:18 pm
by craterus
wasn't that 3 words?

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:26 pm
by Zurai
craterus wrote:wasn't that 3 words?
I thought the same thing. It could go either way.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:27 pm
by wonderpug
craterus wrote:wasn't that 3 words?
The right "being" implies singular as well, but the title of the comic seems to make it clear this is the intended prophecy fulfillment.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:35 pm
by Zurai
wonderpug wrote:
craterus wrote:wasn't that 3 words?
The right "being" implies singular as well, but the title of the comic seems to make it clear this is the intended prophecy fulfillment.
Or does it? He's been known to throw in red herrings from time to time.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:50 pm
by Meghan
Woah - thanks for those links. I didn't realize we'd seen the three Fiends before. Wow. Rich Burlew deserves a freaking medal for the stuff he's pulling off here.

Oh, V. :cry:

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:15 pm
by Skinypupy
stessier wrote:I keep getting a "504 Gateway Timeout" error when I try to access OOTS. Been that way for weeks. :(
Same here. I used to check OOTS pretty regularly, but now I find myself simply catching up on a bunch of strips at once on the off chance I can actually get the site to load.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:37 pm
by craterus
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0635.html" target="_blank

nice follow up... I am new to this series, do you think he will do anything special for 666? He seems to really enjoy hamming up with the evil :)

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:44 pm
by wonderpug
Holy shit

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:49 pm
by Zinfan
craterus wrote:http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0635.html

nice follow up... I am new to this series, do you think he will do anything special for 666? He seems to really enjoy hamming up with the evil :)
It's really hard to say with Rich, he made fun of the 100th strip and the 500th strip included a broken 4th wall comment about special strips for certain numbers. That being said 666 does sound like a fine number to be specialized.

Oh Varsuvius what have you done now??

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:02 am
by SpaceLord
wonderpug wrote:Holy shit
+1

:shock:

Best. Comic. Title. Ever.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:03 am
by Meghan
NNNNNOOOOOO! I love V so much ..... Oh man. :shock:

Also: Bunkus! Nonsuch! Gibberos! Gobbleygoos!

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:09 am
by wonderpug
SpaceLord wrote:Best. Comic. Title. Ever.
What was the title? I forgot to take a look at it and now it seems his server has gone up in an earth shattering kaboom yet again.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:48 am
by SpaceLord
wonderpug wrote:
SpaceLord wrote:Best. Comic. Title. Ever.
What was the title? I forgot to take a look at it and now it seems his server has gone up in an earth shattering kaboom yet again.
I see a red robe and I want to paint it black...

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:46 am
by Bakhtosh
Damn...V's gone evil-Willow on us.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:54 am
by El Guapo
Do you think that he'll ever be restored to good-ness?

I'm predicting the Darth Vader-copyrighted "redeems himself by sacrificing his life in an act of goodness at a particularly heroic moment" method.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:09 pm
by Shinjin
El Guapo wrote:Do you think that he'll ever be restored to good-ness?
I always that V was neutral... And if so, won't s/he/it just have to do some ridiculously "good" thing to bring those moral scales back to neutral?

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:02 pm
by Bakhtosh
The fiends are aware of the existance of the gates.
The demon chick told them about it.

Are they wanting to use V to further weaken the seals?

I wonder if V will find a loophole.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:39 pm
by Odin
Wow, I can't believe how long it's been since I read OOTS. Apparently I quit around episode #510 or so. I don't remember why exactly - I think the sporadic posting schedule may have been to blame, or maybe that's another webcomic I'm thinking of. Time to get caught up, I guess.

Sith

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:20 pm
by El Guapo
Bakhtosh wrote:The fiends are aware of the existance of the gates.
The demon chick told them about it.

Are they wanting to use V to further weaken the seals?

I wonder if V will find a loophole.
Yeah, you have to assume that that is at least partially what the fiends are after. Poking around on the OOTS forums, someone was noting that the fiends never said *when* they would take possession of V's soul (to last as long as V maintains the splice). Quite possibly they plan on taking possession of V's soul when he is around one of the gates, to help them gain control of that gate.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:22 pm
by Bakhtosh
Funny, I've always assumed V is female.

And if she's smart, she'll kill the dragon, contact the other party members, then break the splice - giving the fiends only a short amount of time in posession of her body. The longer she maintains it, the worse it will be for her in the end.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:34 pm
by wonderpug
Bakhtosh wrote:Funny, I've always assumed V is female.

And if she's smart, she'll kill the dragon, contact the other party members, then break the splice - giving the fiends only a short amount of time in posession of her body. The longer she maintains it, the worse it will be for her in the end.
We already know she's smart based on actions he's taken that indicate her INT stat. ;)

The question is whether not he would be able to give up ultimate power and go back to being merely above average.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:38 pm
by Chaz
She's smart (high INT), but how's her WIS? Given that s/he accepted the splice in the first place, and given his/her recent actions, it strikes me that s/he's lost a great deal of perspective and common sense. He's already indicating that V's going to have a hard time exerting her own will in the face of the other souls. I suspect that this whole thing goes horribly, horribly wrong, and then goes worse when the fiends call in their marker.

I literally just finished catching up. I spent the past year and a half reading through the entire series sporadically, and got through the last ~150 in the past few days (server flakiness made it fairly annoying too). So now that I'm current, what's the schedule of new strips?

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:09 pm
by Zurai
Chaz wrote:So now that I'm current, what's the schedule of new strips?
There's a schedule?

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:16 pm
by wire
Zurai wrote:
Chaz wrote:So now that I'm current, what's the schedule of new strips?
There's a schedule?
I think Rich finally learned to not post a schedule and just post when he has something to post. Some weeks you may get 2 or more updates and other weeks maybe just 1 update.

For me the more updates the better as I've invested enough time that I want to know what's going on but having everyone spread out has gotten a bit old.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:02 pm
by Meghan
The OOTS forums have been taken offline due to heavy traffic, but over on SDMB, I read that that the runes in the circle around V are a simple substitution cipher reading:
Spoiler:
Bet you thought you'd found a secret message in this, didn't you
I think Rich saves up a couple comics so when he knows he's about to lay a blockbuster on us, he can have the follow-ups ready to go. It's a good plan but the strip is pretty much all blockbuster so it's hard for him to keep up.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:33 pm
by Isgrimnur
Also, iirc, Rich has an undisclosed health issue that affects his ability to work. So updates can be rather sporadic.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:55 am
by Zinfan
Meghan wrote:The OOTS forums have been taken offline due to heavy traffic, but over on SDMB, I read that that the runes in the circle around V are a simple substitution cipher reading:
Spoiler:
Bet you thought you'd found a secret message in this, didn't you
I think Rich saves up a couple comics so when he knows he's about to lay a blockbuster on us, he can have the follow-ups ready to go. It's a good plan but the strip is pretty much all blockbuster so it's hard for him to keep up.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:17 am
by Bakhtosh
I've got all of my web comics subscribed to RSS feeds. You read 'em as they're updated, and don't have to check it every day (although I did have to change the RSS feed updating schedule to every hour).

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:22 am
by craterus
Bakhtosh wrote:Funny, I've always assumed V is female.

And if she's smart, she'll kill the dragon, contact the other party members, then break the splice - giving the fiends only a short amount of time in posession of her body. The longer she maintains it, the worse it will be for her in the end.
What is considered a "short" time in an eternity?

Did she/he/it negotiate a percentage of her time or a finite time period?
edit -- finite time in 633... but i still think there is something tricky in the way they are wording it.

I guess the real question is - How long is an hour in eternity?

Is it an equivalent percentage of one hour in a beings life? Or is it an hour divided by infinity? I am thinking it will be 1hour*3/788400 life hours(90 years) or .0381% in this example and .0381% of eternity is...

last edit "Exact order of custody to be determined at a later point." <--- this might be the key if it is actually a finite time period. Perhaps they plan to interrupt any bliss in eternity by taking payment in infinitesimally small increments stretched over eternity?

I've got to say - I am really enjoying the re-reading of this particular story arc...
starting around
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0623.html" target="_blank
Spoiler:
"Parent, do you think Other Parent will be returning home soon?"
"I apologize for the delay madam. Had to banish a human ghost who just wouldn't leave. Thinks the whole campaign revolves around him"
"What possible preparations could a pastry chef make to increase their chances of fighting a dragon?"
"Magical power beyond your wildest imaginings * "
"Give? No. Do we look like socialists?"
"Contracts are for people who have something to hide" <--- is that from willy wonka?
"We simply don't need to trick you if we can get what we want by playing it straight
"Oh that? That's just the choir of the dead pedophiles - We snip'em fresh every morning so they keep that high pitch."
I am going to have to start reading this from number 1 - thanks OO!

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:49 am
by Chaz
I actually may pick up the collections. It's fairly rare to see a comic with a fairly detailed developing storyline like this one has. Unfortunately, my usual discount book websites don't seem to be selling them themselves, and I'm not crazy about using their merchants. May just need to get them at full price at the game store.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:46 pm
by wonderpug
Chaz wrote:I actually may pick up the collections. It's fairly rare to see a comic with a fairly detailed developing storyline like this one has. Unfortunately, my usual discount book websites don't seem to be selling them themselves, and I'm not crazy about using their merchants. May just need to get them at full price at the game store.
I'll loan them to you if you promise to baby them. I've got the main books as well as the prequels.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:53 pm
by Odin
Aw, I'm all caught up now. :(

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:54 pm
by Isgrimnur
Now go read ErfWorld.

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:56 pm
by SpaceLord
Chaz wrote:I actually may pick up the collections. It's fairly rare to see a comic with a fairly detailed developing storyline like this one has. Unfortunately, my usual discount book websites don't seem to be selling them themselves, and I'm not crazy about using their merchants. May just need to get them at full price at the game store.
On the Origin of PCs is easily as entertaining as the regular strip. The recruiting of the OotS members scene in the tavern is soooo awesome.
Spoiler:
The Ming Must be Destroyed

Re: Order of the Stick 634

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:14 pm
by Chaz
wonderpug wrote:
Chaz wrote:I actually may pick up the collections. It's fairly rare to see a comic with a fairly detailed developing storyline like this one has. Unfortunately, my usual discount book websites don't seem to be selling them themselves, and I'm not crazy about using their merchants. May just need to get them at full price at the game store.
I'll loan them to you if you promise to baby them. I've got the main books as well as the prequels.
Thanks for the offer. I think I want to own them myself though, not just re-read them. There's how many books out now?