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Awesome, Coop! Sure beats my accomplishment this weekend (getting a sun burn taking the kid to the water park).
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Baroquen wrote:Congrats Coop! That's something I don't think I'll ever do. :)
And I'll never run a marathon... probably... I ran a half when I was 16 and I did it faster than I could ever hope to match (1:26:13, yes I really remember the time). THat way lay disappointment.

On the other hand, when you finish a Spartan, they give you a wedge that says the distance you did. To complete the circle you need to do all three events they have (Sprint {3+ miles and 20+ obstacles}, Super {8+ miles, 24+ obstacles} and Beast {12+ miles and 30+ obstacles}). I am thinking about the Super which comes to town (2 hours away) next May. If I get up to a Beast, which is basically a half with a bunch of torture thrown in, I am practically doing a marathon length of time.

The problem with the Beast and the Marathon is the training time. You can do a 5k/10k/short mud run with no training at all (well, I can anyway). When you start talking about 3-4 hour events, you really need to up your game. At this point I only make time for running on the weekend and right now I am not making it past 5 miles. I was doing 9 mile runs last fall so I can get back there with some effort. I keep thinking about way to fit running in during the week, but I never get to it.
Jeff V wrote:Awesome, Coop! Sure beats my accomplishment this weekend (getting a sun burn taking the kid to the water park).
The whole family came to the event. The 6 year old did the half mile and then 10 year old did the mile, which was just two laps of the half-mile course. They had a lot of fun. It was a lot of stairs for them too, but somehow they recovered from it faster than daddy. :P They got to do an over, under and through, a sandbag carry, a "barbed wire crawl", a (blunted) spear throw and a couple other things so they were proud of doing obstacles like daddy. It was pretty cool to see them run it.
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I have just taken up running. Over the last 9 months I have lost 2 stone in weight and joined the gym. To start with I did rowing and cycling and after 5 months also started weights.

Then my brother in law joined and we started going together and he is a running fan and twisted my arm to start running.

I am now 45, when I was a teenager/ young 20's I was very fit and active and pretty good at sport but haven't done much in 20 years. To start with I struggled to run for 15 minutes non stop but I could row for an hour and had trouble getting my head round it.

My first 5k was 42 minutes on the tread mill :shock:

Anyways 3 months on my running partner did 2 things, he signed me up for a 10k race and asked me to do a 5k park run with him instead of the treadmill. By this time my 5k was down to 29 minutes on the treadmill. I did 2 park runs my first 26 minutes and my second 24 minutes 40. Recently I got my time down to 23 minutes and have a personal goal of 20 minutes for it. This weekend I aiming for 22 minutes.

I find with the 5k I cannot start too fast but instead build speed quickly and steadily from around 2k onwards and am struggling to find a more even/faster starting pace as I feel I have some left in the tank once finishing.

2 weeks ago I did my first 10k run in 54 minutes. the weather was very warm for the UK at 27 degrees and my running partner dropped out at 6k with heat problems which did throw me a little with the next 2k split times a lot slower. Still I got a nice medal and running shirt to show I did it.

I still really like the pace of a 5k race but for whatever reason cannot match my outside pace in the gym, the speed and pace feels too artificial to get right and I find a 5k is taking 25 minutes and a 7k 35 minutes.

Also I am finding that as my goal is still to lose another 14lb in weight that faster times aren't always good while eating less as maybe I am not fuelling myself enough and find myself hungry at night times (After 12am) and this could be slowing my slightly.

Certainly running has improved my overall fitness against just rowing/cycling and I still do 2 weights sessions a week as well just to keep things going.
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Those are some terrific times, Reemul. I was about that age when I started running and haven't come close to those times.

Generally I'm faster on the hamster wheel than in the wild, but race day is always different and generally better than any training runs. It's a grind though and too much hamster wheel makes me not wanting to run at all...it's been several weeks now. In a few more weeks, my wife quits her job and I should have some time for this, though.
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Jeff V wrote:Those are some terrific times, Reemul. I was about that age when I started running and haven't come close to those times.
edit: I meant to throw in there, I agree Reemul. That's pretty amazing times for one of us old guys.

I think I could do a 25 minute 5k now... well not now, after I recover from Saturday. My first plain jane 5k (not an obstacle race) in about 5 years will be in November and I haven't decided on a goal there, but I would love to get down to a 7 minute pace. My PR is 17:45, which is a ~5:42 pace. That was 28 years ago and somehow I don't see that happening ever again.
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I just ran my first ever sub-25 minute 5k yesterday, about a year after taking up running. 24:35.


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J.D. wrote:I just ran my first ever sub-25 minute 5k yesterday, about a year after taking up running. 24:35.
Awesome!

I've only ever ran 5K races twice. I don't really know how well I could do if I focused on a short distance like that. After the ordeal that was my last half-marathon, however, perhaps I should consider it. I don't imagine I'd hate the run any less, but there would be far less of it to hate. :D
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J.D. wrote:I just ran my first ever sub-25 minute 5k yesterday, about a year after taking up running. 24:35.


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coopasonic wrote:11 minute video hack of my somewhat more than 11 minute spartan run (GoProd chest-cam footage):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mM1T6CyDMY
A new version of the video with narration and a shaky cam reduction, but otherwise identical.
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I ran a race this past Saturday; here's a race report of sorts

Close Quarters 12 hour

Late last year, I set a goal to run a birthday run (46 miles/years) in 2016 (on August 27), hopefully as part of a 50-mile race. Unfortunately, all the races on my birthday seemed to be 50k or less, so I dropped the idea. Furthermore, my running mileage (and duration) decreased as usual during the summer months, leaving me little hope to even run a metric birthday run (46k).

In July, Upstate Ultras in Greenville, SC, started advertising for a timed race (12 hour, 6 hour, and 3 hour) on August 20. They decided to make it a charity race and running celebration with free entry and with donations accepted for Greenville County Parks (who host many of his races), autism research (the charity of a ruck runner who ran the 6 hour event), cancer (to help raise money to pay bills for children with cancer), and flood relief for Baton Rouge.

Since the event was free and even though I had run few miles (with my longest recent run being 10 miles three weeks ago), I decided to sign up to see how far I could get in 12 hours. I figured at worst, I could walk more than a marathon.

My wife and I departed Columbia around 5am Saturday morning and arrived at Gary L. Pittman Park, a couple of miles off I-385 east of Greenville, just as the park opened at 7am. We set up a tent and then lounged around for the 8am start. The course was a 1 mile paved (mostly smooth asphalt with some concrete sidewalk sections next to the parking lot) walking trail (mostly flat) that loops around two soccer fields and an out and back lollipop section (with the lollipop stick being the one hill of note, downhill on the out and uphill on the back). Every hour, we were supposed to reverse directions.

At 8am, around 30 of us started running the 12-hour event. For the first four laps, I alternated one lap walking with 1 lap running. Then I switched to approximately 10 minutes walk with 10 minutes run—with the exception that I always ran down the hill and walked back up the hill.

The temp at the start was in the low to mid 70s but was humid with a 70 dew point. The sun was initially obscured with a partly cloudy sky. Around 9am the sun started burning off the clouds, and the temps started rising.

The first ten to fifteen laps felt great. My feet started getting tender around mile 15. Plus the temps had risen to the mid 80s with a 75 dew point. At noon, I'd completed 18 miles. I changed shirts since the gray HTR was almost completely soaked. I also started taking breaks after every one or two laps.

The asphalt was starting to heat up on my tender feet, and my left hip was starting to ache. I started walking more than running but kept on going. I often ran and walked on the grass next to the path, especially in areas where I had discovered little looses stones lurked. My wife came back from lunch around 1pm and brought me a Sonic milkshake, which more than one runner wanted to take.

At 2pm, the 6 hour runners started so there were suddenly some fast runners zipping around those of us who had been there since 8am. My feet tenderness had reached an equilibrium where they ached and tingled but didn't get any worse—other than the few times I landed on a small rock on the ball of my foot. I was growing worried that the increasingly hot asphalt was going to necessitate a change to huaraches.

Around 3pm, I reached the marathon mark, my previous personal best longest distance (shod or unshod). I knew an early birthday run was well out of reach, but the metric birthday run was achievable. So I decided to aim for 50k (or 32 miles, since I was running mile loops) before stopping.

Fortuitously, clouds started moving in, blocking the sun and cooling the air and, more importantly to me, the asphalt. I started taking longer breaks after each lap and rolling out my leg muscles and hips with a massage stick every couple of laps. I actually started feeling pretty good and ran more often in the cooler temps. Even got a sub-12:00/mile pace at times!

At 4pm, I'd completed 29 miles. After 30 miles, I took a 15-minute break and switched shirts. I gritted out two more laps and was done. 32 miles in 9 hours. I finished just before the 3 hour runners started their run. A 50k and a week-early metric birthday run accomplished.

I rested up for a few minutes, drinking water and eating fruit, and then packed up to leave. I felt pretty good for covering 32 miles on very little training. Hopefully, for the next race, I'll be at least decently trained. (Of course I say this after almost every race!)
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That's fantastic! I wish I had known about it - I totally would have given it a try. I'm surprised they started so late - I ran Saturday morning and was soaked in under an hour when the sun hadn't even come up.

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My running days might be over. I injured my toe at the end of June playing ball hockey and now the joint grinds and pops when I move it. It's sore. It's still a little swollen and gets much worse when in use. I've been to the doctor and he put me on a regimen of ibuprofen to get the swelling down but the next step is a specialist. Looking online, my symptoms seem consistent with degenerative arthritis. Which would be bad because it's not something that can be fixed and will get worse over time if I keep doing strenuous activities in the toe.

Bummer, because my injury occurred soon after setting a PB in the 5k of under 25 minutes.


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Eh, cut it off. I'm sure it won't effect your balance that much. ;)
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Weather's getting better. Time to resurrect the Running thread. I think all the OO runners need a new goal to shoot for.

I give you, Emmet Farnan.
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Coming close to a dubious anniversary - one year since I've last run (already well past one year since I ran outside). New baby is not conducive to exercise. :(

Maybe when the MiL arrives...
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Jeff V wrote:Coming close to a dubious anniversary - one year since I've last run (already well past one year since I ran outside). New baby is not conducive to exercise. :(

Maybe when the MiL arrives...
Why not go for a jogging stroller? Babies tend to really enjoy it for the 5 minutes it takes for them to fall asleep and nap soundly.
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Kurth wrote:Weather's getting better. Time to resurrect the Running thread. I think all the OO runners need a new goal to shoot for.

I give you, Emmet Farnan.
RUNNER DRINKS A BEER FOR EVERY MILE OF HALF MARATHON, FINISHES IN UNDER 2 HOURS
Just finished watching that video. I am in awe.
Crazy. Forget the drinking--how did he make it 13 miles without hitting the john a few times? Sheesh. And he was *well* under 2 hours. Nicely done.
Jeff V wrote:Coming close to a dubious anniversary - one year since I've last run (already well past one year since I ran outside). New baby is not conducive to exercise. :(

Maybe when the MiL arrives...
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wonderpug wrote:
Jeff V wrote:Coming close to a dubious anniversary - one year since I've last run (already well past one year since I ran outside). New baby is not conducive to exercise. :(

Maybe when the MiL arrives...
Why not go for a jogging stroller? Babies tend to really enjoy it for the 5 minutes it takes for them to fall asleep and nap soundly.
Not supposed to use those with an infant. I have one for the toddler, whenever I try to run with it the thing vibrates like it's trying to shake itself to pieces (doesn't happen if I lock the swivel on the front wheel, but then I could only run in a straight line). I can also convert the Burley into a stroller, but it's heavy, and the arm position is too high, which I found makes it difficult to breathe properly, I couldn't ever make it more than 1/4 mile with that thing.

Later this summer she will be old enough for the Burley, but I don't know that the toddler will be sufficiently tolerant of spending quality time so close to his sister.
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Zaxxon wrote: Early mornings / lunch at work are your friends.
My wife often doesn't get home until after I'm already late for work. The logistics of running at lunch don't work well for me. Every time I was prepared to try it, something always snatched away the time. I like to at least walk around the pond (1/2 mile x 2) at lunch but usually can just manage that maybe once per week. In a 30 minute lunch break, though, most of the time would get taken up by changing clothes and showering.
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30-minute lunch break? What sweat shop do you work at?? ;)
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My goal is to hit 1000 miles this year. I've scaled back my morning runs to 40 minutes which gives me 20 minutes to get in some weight lifting and core work. I'm at 214 miles right now and work out 6 days a week - 2 hard runs, 1 easy, 2 hard, 1 easy. On the hard days I'm pushing to get to 5 miles in 40 minutes but am currently at about 4.65. On the easy days I only run 30 minutes and get around 3.15 miles. That averages out to about 4 miles per work out day. To hit 1000 miles, I need to do 786 more miles - which is 196 days at 4 miles/day. I can do that with 65 days to spare. There are only 37 weeks left in the year, meaning I should be able to hit the goal working out 6 days a week sometime in November.
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stessier wrote:My goal is to hit 1000 miles this year. I've scaled back my morning runs to 40 minutes which gives me 20 minutes to get in some weight lifting and core work. I'm at 214 miles right now and work out 6 days a week - 2 hard runs, 1 easy, 2 hard, 1 easy. On the hard days I'm pushing to get to 5 miles in 40 minutes but am currently at about 4.65. On the easy days I only run 30 minutes and get around 3.15 miles. That averages out to about 4 miles per work out day. To hit 1000 miles, I need to do 786 more miles - which is 196 days at 4 miles/day. I can do that with 65 days to spare. There are only 37 weeks left in the year, meaning I should be able to hit the goal working out 6 days a week sometime in November.
1,000 miles has been my goal for the last couple years, but I keep missing it.

2015 - 962.9
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My big obstacles have been weather and annoying injuries. After a solid March, I got back from spring break (during which I got a bunch of runs in) and hurt my foot. I think it's actually a calf injury that has resulted in soreness in my foot, but after an 8.6 mile run last week, I was walking with a noticeable limp. Feeling better after giving it a week off, but those kind of things can really put you behind quickly. I'm gradually coming to the conclusion that in my post-40 years, I really need to stretch!
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Zaxxon wrote:30-minute lunch break? What sweat shop do you work at?? ;)
One that has a crapeteria on site so who needs more, right?

Nobody is going to clock me though and time isn't a problem when I do go out for lunch. But I don't really have the ability to stay late as a pressure valve for getting everything done that needs to get done, so more often than not I'm spending my lunch dealing with work. The running group here seems to have vanished since the company split, however - many of them moved with the book company, and at least one who works for my company went WFH all the time, I've not seen her since she made a cameo for the IT holiday pot luck lunch.
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Have not been nearly as consistent with my running as I'd hoped to be this year. Has been mostly due to just being much busier in the evenings than I ever have been in the past due to kids activities, but I know that's no excuse.

I did sign up for my work 5K in a couple of weeks. I won't be nearly ready, but I did it just to force myself to get motivated again.

I'm also probably going to sign up for a 5K Run and Ride at Carowinds in September. Should give me some motivation over the summer.
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I was thinking about this thread just a couple days ago.

I've been running regularly since October. I still have a bit of a nagging hip (which at this point I'm thinking it's arthritis). I'm doing 3 miles, 4 times a week. I did a beer run 5k last month and I've registered for another in June. I'm thinking of doing a 10k sometime in July.

Ragnar Relay is in Aspen in August and I'd love to do it. But I don't know 11 other runners to team up with and I'm not sure I want to join a random team and be stuck for 3 days in a van with people I might dislike.

I do have a buddy in Miami that's putting together a Ragnar Relay team for November I'm considering joining.

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Ugh. I'm finally starting a running plan. I'm a few sessions into couch to 5k, and so far so unpleasant. But I'm persevering. One thing that I was hoping to do would be to measure the intervals with an Apple watch and leave the phone at home, but so far every app for running seems to require hauling the phone around. Does anyone know of one that doesn't?
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Accurately? It needs the gps in the phone for that. Unless you have a 2nd gen watch.
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RunningMn9 wrote:Accurately? It needs the gps in the phone for that. Unless you have a 2nd gen watch.
Isn't there a version of C25k which is time based? My (1st Gen) has an accurate stopwatch.

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RunningMn9 wrote:Accurately? It needs the gps in the phone for that. Unless you have a 2nd gen watch.
It is a 2nd gen. Having the GPS is why I was really hoping to be able to leave the phone at home. Both the C25K and the 5K runner app are time based, but both apps need for the run to be started on the phone and then fail if they get out of Bluetooth range.
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Sounds like the app folks didn't bother to update for the new hardware. Annoying.

I assume the built in activity app runs without the phone but it doesn't do interval like C25K, so that's no help.
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Running without the phone is what I used as my justification for getting a second gen apple watch... then I realized running without music wasn't going to happen, so the watch stays home and the phone goes with me.
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coopasonic wrote:Running without the phone is what I used as my justification for getting a second gen apple watch... then I realized running without music wasn't going to happen, so the watch stays home and the phone goes with me.
You can load music onto the watch!
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wonderpug wrote:
coopasonic wrote:Running without the phone is what I used as my justification for getting a second gen apple watch... then I realized running without music wasn't going to happen, so the watch stays home and the phone goes with me.
You can load music onto the watch!
Yeah, I've got a 120 song playlist synced to the watch and I can listen directly with a Bluetooth headset. The activity app measures the run just fine without the phone - I'd just like something to call out the intervals so I'm not spending the entire time watching the stopwatch and doing math.
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wonderpug wrote:You can load music onto the watch!
It looks like I have to use iTunes to do this. I have been iTunes free for years and I don't really want to go back! I'd also have to get a bluetooth headset.
gbasden wrote:Yeah, I've got a 120 song playlist synced to the watch and I can listen directly with a Bluetooth headset. The activity app measures the run just fine without the phone - I'd just like something to call out the intervals so I'm not spending the entire time watching the stopwatch and doing math.
Runkeeper is supposed to support Watch without the phone. Have you tried that?
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Xmann wrote:I was thinking about this thread just a couple days ago.

I've been running regularly since October. I still have a bit of a nagging hip (which at this point I'm thinking it's arthritis). I'm doing 3 miles, 4 times a week. I did a beer run 5k last month and I've registered for another in June. I'm thinking of doing a 10k sometime in July.

Ragnar Relay is in Aspen in August and I'd love to do it. But I don't know 11 other runners to team up with and I'm not sure I want to join a random team and be stuck for 3 days in a van with people I might dislike.

I do have a buddy in Miami that's putting together a Ragnar Relay team for November I'm considering joining.

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coopasonic wrote:
wonderpug wrote:You can load music onto the watch!
It looks like I have to use iTunes to do this. I have been iTunes free for years and I don't really want to go back! I'd also have to get a bluetooth headset.
gbasden wrote:Yeah, I've got a 120 song playlist synced to the watch and I can listen directly with a Bluetooth headset. The activity app measures the run just fine without the phone - I'd just like something to call out the intervals so I'm not spending the entire time watching the stopwatch and doing math.
Runkeeper is supposed to support Watch without the phone. Have you tried that?
Lord, by the time you guys figure out how to carry all of your devices and get them to work together you could have been on 20 runs! LOL :D Enlarge Image

Just put on your shoes, go outside, and run as far as you can/as far as time allows. Nature sounds can be fun, kids! don't be afraid. :P

I started running about 1.5 years ago after I finally quit smoking (that Allan Carr book really DID work!)

I went to a specialty store, was fitted properly (who knew that shoes should be 1/2 size larger? go figure), tried several pair and chose the ones most comfortable. It really did help. Because I am not a super runner, I got Nike Vomeros because they have a bit more cushion. Love them!

I have a fitbit charge plus for stopwatch and kind-of accurate distance (I still use map my distance for more accurate mileage). The fitbit keeps a charge for a couple days (I wear it all day long as well) and is light. you have to figure out your stride length and set it on your settings within the fitbit website, but for the most part it is fairy accurate. my stride is not always exactly the same, so there is a bit of re-calculating on a known distance length run sometimes, but it is minor. It can't do all the metrics of a garmin 230 or 630 series, but I don't really need that. I have thought about getting a garmin, but not sure if it is worth the plunge.

I get up between 5-5:15 and run for about 20 minutes (on average 2.5-3 miles), stretch a bit when I get back, shower and go for the day. It is the only time I can fit in with work and the kid. If I can fit in a longer run I will get up early on a saturday and do about 8 miles. My average and comfortable pace is 7:30-7:40 min/mile. That is fine with me. Any time I try and slow my pace it feels uncomfortable and as if I am plodding. I never will be a marathoner because I can't slow my pace. Ha.

I have no need/desire to really run longer distances. I'm enjoying what I am doing and have no urge to race or anything. If I wan to run a 10K I'll run my 6.2 miles and not pay someone the privilege to do it. :)

Keep it up guys! Now I understand the addiction and why everyone likes running. I was always a "run only when chased" type of person. Fricking hell of a lot easier to throw on shoes and get out than it is to suit up and get out on the bike. Plus this area is death on a stick for cycling!
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A nonny mouse wrote:Nature sounds can be fun, kids! don't be afraid. :P
Sounds mostly like traffic and lawn mowers to me.
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A nonny mouse wrote: Just put on your shoes, go outside, and run as far as you can/as far as time allows. Nature sounds can be fun, kids! don't be afraid. :P
The sound of hearing myself wheeze can be quite demoralizing.
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Zaxxon wrote:
Xmann wrote:I was thinking about this thread just a couple days ago.

I've been running regularly since October. I still have a bit of a nagging hip (which at this point I'm thinking it's arthritis). I'm doing 3 miles, 4 times a week. I did a beer run 5k last month and I've registered for another in June. I'm thinking of doing a 10k sometime in July.

Ragnar Relay is in Aspen in August and I'd love to do it. But I don't know 11 other runners to team up with and I'm not sure I want to join a random team and be stuck for 3 days in a van with people I might dislike.

I do have a buddy in Miami that's putting together a Ragnar Relay team for November I'm considering joining.

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If you ever get serious about a Colorado team, I'm interested.

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Perhaps next year.

Problem is...I don't know a dozen runners willing to commit to 3 days of running.

I've been wanting to do a Ragnar for years. Just don't have big enough a runners circle to get a team together.

I'd gladly join a team, but not strangers. My luck I'd be locked in a van for 3 days with people I absolutely couldn't tolerate.

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That's my issue, too. I can probably arrange a few, but not twelve.
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