Apple iTablet/iSlate/iPad (NDA lifted)

[Chaz]

Oh, I know. Ironically, that's where I got the laptop that this is going to be replacing. Just trying to decide if I'd rather wait a week to save the $32.

[Chaz]

Okay, I decided to get the thing on the way home from work. So now comes the mandatory "what apps" questions.

I've already got a batch of games on the "to buy" list, mostly board game conversions. I'll probably grab a few for this week's trip, but the rest I'll wait on sales, since they all seem to have just been on sale and I missed them.

Obviously getting the Netflix and Kindle apps. Is there a good way to watch Hulu (non-plus) on this thing? The GF and I like watching Mad Men and Supernatural, and both are streaming on Hulu or the AMC website, but I suspect those are both Flash-based, and therefore Uncle Steve says the ipad cannot has.

[stessier]

The new iMacs are really, really thin. I think we're about to hear about the mini-Ipad that all the rumors are about.

[stessier]

Make that the 4th gen I-pad. Wow - only a 6 month cycle time for this version.

[stessier]

And there is the Ipad mini. Interesting roll out. Bummer for people who just bought the Ipad 3.

[stessier]

Someone is feeling it today - side by side comparison with the Nexus 7 during the presentation.

[stessier]

329 for the 16 GB Ipad mini. Does that strike anyone else as high?

[Cylus Maxii]

Seems a bit high - but they don't want to cut in to the Ipod touch territory either.

[stessier]

I'm not familiar with the Touch, but saw a note that the mini was only $30 more. I'll have to take a look (not to buy one, just out of business strategy curiosity).

[Cylus Maxii]

I'm not familiar with the Touch, but saw a note that the mini was only $30 more. I'll have to take a look (not to buy one, just out of business strategy curiosity).

Its basically an iPhone with no cellular and a lower quality display.

[Exodor]

And there is the Ipad mini. Interesting roll out. Bummer for people who just bought the Ipad 3.

Why, did they introduce an updated 10" tablet?

I like my iPad3 and I have no use for a 7" tablet.

[Malificent]

And there is the Ipad mini. Interesting roll out. Bummer for people who just bought the Ipad 3.

Why, did they introduce an updated 10" tablet?

I like my iPad3 and I have no use for a 7" tablet.

They did just roll out an updated iPad 4 that seems to be the 3, plus a faster processer/4G/lightning connector. Since I don't even have 3G on my iPad 3, I think I can let the 4 pass me by.

[stessier]

Why, did they introduce an updated 10" tablet?

I suspect to better differentiate their line. The Ipad 2 is still for sale. Also, the Mini and 4th gen have the Lightening connector.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

I'm not familiar with the Touch, but saw a note that the mini was only $30 more. I'll have to take a look (not to buy one, just out of business strategy curiosity).

Its basically an iPhone with no cellular and a lower quality display.

Actually, the new iPod Touch has the same retina display as the iPhone. It's more or less an iPhone 4S without the cellular reception.

[Exodor]

And there is the Ipad mini. Interesting roll out. Bummer for people who just bought the Ipad 3.

Why, did they introduce an updated 10" tablet?

I like my iPad3 and I have no use for a 7" tablet.

They did just roll out an updated iPad 4 that seems to be the 3, plus a faster processer/4G/lightning connector. Since I don't even have 3G on my iPad 3, I think I can let the 4 pass me by.

so it's slightly faster and doesn't work with any of my existing peripherals? (My iPad is WiFI only so 3G/4G doesn't affect me at all)

I think i'm happy with my current device.

[Ænima]

I'm not familiar with the Touch, but saw a note that the mini was only $30 more. I'll have to take a look (not to buy one, just out of business strategy curiosity).

Its basically an iPhone with no cellular and a lower quality display.

Actually, the new iPod Touch has the same retina display as the iPhone. It's more or less an iPhone 4S without the cellular reception.

The new iPod Touch has a 4" screen like the iPhone 5.

[GuidoTKP]

And there is the Ipad mini. Interesting roll out. Bummer for people who just bought the Ipad 3.

Why, did they introduce an updated 10" tablet?

I like my iPad3 and I have no use for a 7" tablet.

Because Microsoft is about to drop the Surface and Google is likely to drop a Nexus 10 for the holiday season, so Apple is looking to kick them both in the nads and kill their market penetration before it can even get started. As usual, Apple is teh smrt.

[Exodor]

Because Microsoft is about to drop the Surface and Google is likely to drop a Nexus 10 for the holiday season, so Apple is looking to kick them both in the nads and kill their market penetration before it can even get started. As usual, Apple is teh smrt.

Maybe. My impression of the mini is it's overpriced and under-specced (that screen!) compared to other tablets.

I think Apple will continue to own the 10" tablet market but I wouldn't be surprised to see them struggle when competing with the Fire and Nexus7.

[Cylus Maxii]

so it's slightly faster and doesn't work with any of my existing peripherals? (My iPad is WiFI only so 3G/4G doesn't affect me at all)

I think i'm happy with my current device.

Technically, its twice as fast as the Ipad3 - both video and cpu. I have the iPad2 and skipped the iPad3 (though the retina display was tempting). This may be enough to push me over the edge.

[GuidoTKP]

Because Microsoft is about to drop the Surface and Google is likely to drop a Nexus 10 for the holiday season, so Apple is looking to kick them both in the nads and kill their market penetration before it can even get started. As usual, Apple is teh smrt.

Maybe. My impression of the mini is it's overpriced and under-specced (that screen!) compared to other tablets.

I think Apple will continue to own the 10" tablet market but I wouldn't be surprised to see them struggle when competing with the Fire and Nexus7.

I was actually responding to the question why a 10" tablet refresh at this time. I agree that the Mini is overpriced. I have to admit I'm a little tempted by the iPad 4, though. I'm currently rocking an iPad 2 and a 4 would be pretty significant upgrade. I do a ton of work annotating large .pdf's, and I think the A6 would dramatically improve performance handling for those files (not to mention the bump from non-retina to retina).

What I really dropped in for, though, was to post this Oatmeal classic:

[Chaz]

I'm wondering what this is going to do to the prices of the two older versions of the ipad. The projected Xmas present for the future mom-in-law is an ipad, and she certainly doesn't need even anything other than the ipad 2.

[Carpet_pissr]

I'm wondering what this is going to do to the prices of the two older versions of the ipad. The projected Xmas present for the future mom-in-law is an ipad, and she certainly doesn't need even anything other than the ipad 2.

I would highly recommend ANYone to get the iPad with Retina display. That makes such a huge difference, IMO, and is very much worth the additional cost. Even if your MIL has great eyes, the simple clarity of the text makes it a lot more enjoyable (I have the iPad 2, non Retina, and I do not like reading on it at all, for any length of time).

Even though my iPad was given to me by my boss not even a year ago, I am considering selling it and getting a refurb Retina version (iPad 3 I guess). I could care less about the size, thin, 4G (I have the wifi ver, and don't need or want 3 or 4G), etc. but the low res on the iPad2 and 1 is pretty noticeable, esp. if you are used to higher res screens on other devices.

[Freezer-TPF-]

I had been planning to pick up the iPad 2 on the cheap since it should be good enough for my purposes and the iPad 3 was a little heavier and ran hotter, took longer to recharge, etc. But I am tempted to go for the new iPad 4 if the new chip fixes the heat/charging issues, plus of course the increased speed.

I mean, I used PC monitors for years with a 1024x768 display, so it seems an under 10-inch tablet at that res (iPad 2) would be good enough for my needs. The iPad3/4 display is pretty, no doubt, but I'm not sure it's worth the premium for me.

[Chaz]

I'm still perfectly happy with my ipad 2 that I got after the 3 came out. Yes, it's lower resolution, but it's perfectly fine, and I like cheaper. Note that I don't use it for reading books (I have a Kindle for that), but I do use it for web browsing a lot. The text pixelization is there, but I don't even notice it now.

[Hamlet3145]

Well, since I'm still on iPad 1 (which can't even run iOS 6 now) it's officially time for me to upgrade. I was planning on waiting until this spring, but was pretty surprised to see they updated the line-up yesterday. Gen 1 to Gen 4 is going to be quite the jump.

[RunningMn9]

There are heat and charging issues with the ipad3? Also, I thought it was lighter than the 2?

I went from a 1 to a 3, and the one is like holding a low-rez cinder block compared to it.

I use the crap out of my 3 and never noticed any heat or charging issues.

[Exodor]

My daughter's iPad1 charges in a few hours. My 3 takes much longer - but it's also got a much larger battery.

The 4 seems to be a nice upgrade if you're still using one of the first two generations of iPad. I can easily hold out for the next new shiny.

[RunningMn9]

Interesting, I have both and will conduct a charge-off in the name of science!

[Crabbs]

I bought my wife an iPad for her birthday in Sept and she's really loving it. I was thinking of installing a RDP app so she could log into the clinic management software and work via her iPAD.

What Remote Desktop App are you guys recommending for the iPAD? Is it still Jump?

[hentzau]

I bought my wife an iPad for her birthday in Sept and she's really loving it. I was thinking of installing a RDP app so she could log into the clinic management software and work via her iPAD.

What Remote Desktop App are you guys recommending for the iPAD? Is it still Jump?

I'm somewhat interested in this as well. About once a month my wife calls me up with an issue on her system, and it would be nice to be able to actually get on it and fix it rather than try and talk her through making changes.

[SlapBone]

I bought my wife an iPad for her birthday in Sept and she's really loving it. I was thinking of installing a RDP app so she could log into the clinic management software and work via her iPAD.

What Remote Desktop App are you guys recommending for the iPAD? Is it still Jump?

I'm somewhat interested in this as well. About once a month my wife calls me up with an issue on her system, and it would be nice to be able to actually get on it and fix it rather than try and talk her through making changes.

I use Jump to control both of my home PCs and my MBP remotely. It's a one-time fee and it works every time I need it.

[Freezer-TPF-]

Going shopping this weekend, most likely. Will compare the ipad4 display vs the portability of the mini. I'll mostly be using it at home so I'm still leaning toward the ipad4. For pdfs and games, I figure bigger is probably better.

[Isgrimnur]

128 GB version incoming

The new 128GB versions of the fourth generation iPad will be available starting Tuesday, February 5, in black or white, for a suggested retail price of $799 (US) for the iPad with Wi-Fi model and $929 (US) for the iPad with Wi-Fi + Cellular model.

[Carpet_pissr]

Yowza...so spendy for just a reasonable amount of disk space!

I am sure someone has already calculated this, but I would imagine a very big part of Apple's profit margin on iOS devices is in the memory upgrades.

[Exodor]

So a 128GB iPad but the iPod touch maxes out at 64GB?

[Lorini]

128 GB version incoming

The new 128GB versions of the fourth generation iPad will be available starting Tuesday, February 5, in black or white, for a suggested retail price of $799 (US) for the iPad with Wi-Fi model and $929 (US) for the iPad with Wi-Fi + Cellular model.

Instead of even buying the 32G, I just bought the 16G and will add more ICloud space as needed. Much cheaper. So there's no way I'm buying the 128G, although note I watch very few movies and I guess for those who want a large movie collection on their IPad the 128G would be necessary.

[YellowKing]

Or app hogs like me. Apps can be huge these days.

I've got 11GB free on my 64GB, no movies. I do have a pretty substantial book/comic collection though, and a ton of games.

[Freezer-TPF-]

Going shopping this weekend, most likely. Will compare the ipad4 display vs the portability of the mini. I'll mostly be using it at home so I'm still leaning toward the ipad4. For pdfs and games, I figure bigger is probably better.

Ha, I still haven't bought, and now feel I should wait until March to see if yet another new version will be rolling out in the spring.

[Carpet_pissr]

Or app hogs like me. Apps can be huge these days.

I've got 11GB free on my 64GB, no movies. I do have a pretty substantial book/comic collection though, and a ton of games.

No movies, NO MUSIC OR PHOTOS on mine (32 gig), and zero space available currently.

I guess I am an appaholic too, but that is with many MANY apps/games already removed to make space for others. In fact, I keep a list of "purchased, but deleted" apps and games in Evernote so I can keep up with it. If I was a reasonable gamer, I would complete and delete before buying something else, but I am also a sale hound, so when I see a title on my wish list go down in price (or free), I pick it up right then, space be damned.

[YellowKing]

Ha, I still haven't bought, and now feel I should wait until March to see if yet another new version will be rolling out in the spring.

The rumor mill is that they will be releasing the iPad 5 in the fall along with a new iPad Mini. It's speculated they are trying to get the iPad aligned with their other annual product releases.