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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:23 pm

So for unlimited streaming across two lines, I can expect to pay at least $100, with HD video being an additional fee.

Why do they keep pissing on our heads and tell us that it's raining?

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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:40 pm

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The new plan is called T-Mobile One, and it offers "unlimited" talk, text, and high-speed 4G LTE data for new and existing customers who want to scrap their old plans. A single T-Mobile One line costs $70, plus the usual fees and taxes. A second line will run you an additional $50, and you can add as many as eight lines on top of them for $20 each.
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T-Mobile One's terms of service feature a good deal of fine print — and at least four major gotchas.

Let's start with wireless hotspots, a way to share a connection with a laptop or other mobile devices. The $70 plan limits hotspot connectivity to the equivalent of dial-up speed, about 128 Kbps, which makes it useless for all but the simplest of tasks. You simply would not want to use it to tether your laptop. If you want real, 4G hotspot connectivity, you have to pay an extra $15 a month for 5GB of data. And if you go over that allotment, you have to pay another $15.

For some existing customers, T-Mobile One would mean a price increase. Many customers now pay $50 for 2GB of data, for example, so they'd pay an extra $20 a month, though they would also get a lot more data.

As for the whole "unlimited" thing, that claim isn't entirely accurate. Customers who use more than 26GB of data in a billing period will be throttled way down if they connect to congested cell towers.

There's also a video issue. Customers who have been using BingeOn, which provides access to streaming video from many sources without eating into customers' data allotments, are already restricted to 480p video resolution. That's relatively low, but it's also not necessarily noticeable on small smartphone screens. However, it could be more of an issue on tablet. T-Mobile One customers will face the same resolution restriction unless they pay an additional $25 a month for HD video.

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Android Nougat is out for Nexus devices today! Here's a good run down of some of the features.
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:30 am

Enough wrote:Android Nougat is out for Nexus devices today! Here's a good run down of some of the features.
Installed it last night. Split screen is nice. Rebooting randomly isn't. Probably some app or other that doesn't play nice with Nougat but damned if I can find which one.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:59 am

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Verizon has told its field technicians in Pennsylvania that they can be fired if they try to fix broken copper phone lines. Instead, employees must try to replace copper lines with a device that connects to Verizon Wireless’s cell phone network.

This directive came in a memo from Verizon to workers on September 20. “Failure to follow this directive may result in disciplinary action up to and including dismissal,” the memo said. It isn't clear whether this policy has been applied to Verizon workers outside of Pennsylvania.

The memo and other documents were made public by the Communications Workers of America (CWA) union, which asked the Pennsylvania Public Utility Commission to put a stop to the forced copper-to-wireless conversions.

The wireless home phone service, VoiceLink, is not a proper replacement for copper phone lines because it doesn’t work with security alarms, fax machines, medical devices such as pacemakers that require telephone monitoring, and other services, the union said.
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Another memo tells workers that they should only restore copper phone service if they can verify that the wireless VoiceLink won't work. VoiceLink devices connect a home's inside wiring to Verizon's cellular network.
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Replacing old phone lines with wireless is part of a long-term, nationwide transition from the primarily copper-based Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) to Internet Protocol (IP)-based voice services that rely on network technologies such as fiber and wireless. The FCC has encouraged carriers to replace copper with fiber, but it requires them to seek permission before shutting off copper networks in cases where they intend to reduce or discontinue service.

Gardler didn’t allege any violations of FCC rules but asked the state Utility Commission to “prohibit Verizon from using VoiceLink as a permanent solution.” (Verizon should be able to use VoiceLink as a temporary substitute during emergencies such as natural disasters, he said.) Gardler also wants the commission to “require Verizon to substantially increase its budget for maintenance and repair of copper facilities in non-FiOS areas” and expand fiber service to unserved areas.

The commission should conduct a thorough audit of Verizon maintenance and repair practices in areas where it hasn’t replaced copper with fiber, he wrote. The CWA said that last year it documented more than 200 examples in 13 counties where Verizon failed to provide safe facilities by refusing to replace or repair damaged equipment or by failing to control falling trees and vegetation near equipment. A union survey of outside plant technicians found that 96.5 percent say it's common for Verizon to fail to assign a technician to restore service within 24 hours and that 95.1 percent of technicians say management has refused to authorize repair or replacement of cable that the technicians have reported as defective within the past year, the CWA said.
So instead of doing the right thing, they're just going to let the copper network collapse uder the weight of its own obsolescence.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:36 pm

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In a federal lawsuit filed this week, Apple asserted that nearly all the iPhones, chargers and cables it surreptitiously purchased from online retailer Amazon were fakes.

"As part of its ongoing brand protection efforts, [Apple] has purchased well over 100 iPhone devices, Apple power products, and Lightning cables sold as genuine by sellers on Amazon.com and delivered through Amazon's 'Fulfillment by Amazon' program," Apple's complaint said of a nine-month operation. "Apple's internal examination and testing for these products revealed almost 90% of these products are counterfeit."

Although Apple did not target Amazon in the lawsuit -- instead, Apple sued Mobile Star, a New York-based former supplier to Amazon -- the retailer came off poorly in the complaint.
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Monday's lawsuit took aim at Mobile Star because, after buying a dozen iPhone chargers and cables from Amazon, the e-tailer told Apple the products had been supplied by Mobile Star.

All 12 of the power-related iPhone products had been advertised by Amazon as genuine Apple gear -- often accompanied by product images copyrighted by Apple -- which sometimes came in packaging that mimicked Apple's or sported bogus Apple serial numbers. But each product purchased was counterfeit.

Apple's complaint went beyond damage to its brand or loss of revenue; instead, it steered toward safety.

"Apple tested a number of the Mobile Star-supplied power adapters it had purchased and each one failed the Hipot Test (high potential (high voltage) test), also known as the Dielectric Withstanding Voltage test, confirming that the products lack sufficient insulation and/or spacing between the high voltage and low voltage component and have the potential to overheat or deliver a lethal electric shock to a user of the device," the complaint charged.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:33 pm

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AT&T yesterday unveiled free robocall blocking for postpaid smartphone customers.

Named Call Protect, the service blocks some fraud calls at the network level before they reach customers' phones. In other cases, when it's less clear whether the call is fraudulent, Call Protect doesn't block the call but shows "suspected spam warnings on the incoming call screen which let customers choose whether or not to answer calls that originate from a suspected spam source," AT&T's announcement said.

At least for now, the service is available only for AT&T postpaid wireless customers with iPhones or Android phones that support AT&T's HD Voice technology. Call Protect is not automatically enabled. Instead, customers can add the feature in their AT&T account settings or the Call Protect app for iPhone and Android. Some Android users complained in the Google Play store reviews that Call Protect doesn't support unlocked devices like the Google Pixel.

AT&T warns that the network-level fraud blocking "[m]ay inadvertently block wanted calls," but customers can adjust the settings "to turn off blocking or allow specifically designated numbers." Customers can view a list of blocked calls in the Call Protect app. While network-level call blocking works across the AT&T network, the suspected spam warnings displayed on the incoming call screen will only work in the AT&T HD Voice coverage area. HD Voice provides clearer sounding voice calls over LTE; you can check out the HD Voice coverage area at this link.

Call Protect also has a "Temporary Call Block" feature that lets customers block specific phone numbers for up to 30 days at a time.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:52 pm

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As part of its Un-carrier Next press conference at CES, the nation's third-largest carrier said on Thursday that it would simplify the pricing of its T-Mobile One plan. The $70 plan for an individual, for instance, will cost exactly $70 after taxes and fees. Typically, consumers pay more than the advertised rate on their wireless plan because of local and federal taxes and other fees.
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T-Mobile also confirmed that on January 22, it will kill off all other plans and just go with the T-Mobile One unlimited plan.
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T-Mobile isn't magically making the taxes and fees disappear. The company is actually lowering the rate so those extra charges are absorbed into the total. If the taxes change or go up, the carrier will lower the rate to ensure you keep your advertised price.

The plans range from $70 for a single line to $140 for four lines and $20 for additional lines.
Based on their site, it's:
  1. line - $70
  2. lines - $120
  3. lines - $140
  4. lines - $160
* While using AutoPay.
** On all plans, during congestion the top 3% of data users (>28GB/mo.) may notice reduced speeds until next bill cycle. Video typically streams on smartphone/tablet at DVD quality (480p). Tethering at Max 3G speeds. Sales tax and regulatory fees included in monthly service price.

DON'T USE MUCH DATA? GET UP TO $10 BACK.

Sign up for KickBack™ and get a bill credit every month for each T-Mobile ONE line that uses less than 2GB.

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Post by stessier » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:03 pm

So as someone who doesn't really pay attention to these things, are those good prices? The little I've looked into it, I'd still prefer to be on Google Fi.
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Post by LordMortis » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:43 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:T-Mobile
As part of its Un-carrier Next press conference at CES, the nation's third-largest carrier said on Thursday that it would simplify the pricing of its T-Mobile One plan. The $70 plan for an individual, for instance, will cost exactly $70 after taxes and fees. Typically, consumers pay more than the advertised rate on their wireless plan because of local and federal taxes and other fees.
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T-Mobile also confirmed that on January 22, it will kill off all other plans and just go with the T-Mobile One unlimited plan.
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T-Mobile isn't magically making the taxes and fees disappear. The company is actually lowering the rate so those extra charges are absorbed into the total. If the taxes change or go up, the carrier will lower the rate to ensure you keep your advertised price.

The plans range from $70 for a single line to $140 for four lines and $20 for additional lines.
Based on their site, it's:
  1. line - $70
  2. lines - $120
  3. lines - $140
  4. lines - $160
* While using AutoPay.
** On all plans, during congestion the top 3% of data users (>28GB/mo.) may notice reduced speeds until next bill cycle. Video typically streams on smartphone/tablet at DVD quality (480p). Tethering at Max 3G speeds. Sales tax and regulatory fees included in monthly service price.

DON'T USE MUCH DATA? GET UP TO $10 BACK.

Sign up for KickBack™ and get a bill credit every month for each T-Mobile ONE line that uses less than 2GB.
$60 most months? That's tempting. I wonder what kind of service I get with T Mobile. I don't know one T-Mobile user.

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They notably lack coverage in the middle of Lake Erie, where Mortis has his fortress of solitude.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:40 am

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Verizon has confirmed leaked plans to crack down (again) on the company's grandfathered unlimited data users. As we noted last week, Verizon employees have been anonymously posting over at Reddit about the crackdown, which involves telling customers that eat more than 200 GB in any given month that they may lose their connections if they don't slow down their consumption. Verizon eliminated unlimited data plans in 2011, but grandfathered remaining unlimited users at the time.
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Verizon has consistently insisted that users think they want unlimited data plans, but they're wrong.

"At the end of the day, people don't need unlimited plans," Verizon Chief Financial Officer Fran Shammo told attendees of an investor conference last September. "You cannot make money in an unlimited data world," the CFO added.
But seriously, 200 GB/month? That's not mobile-only usage.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:40 am

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AT&T continues to quickly hike the cost of unlimited data in order to drive its dwindling grandfathered unlimited data users to metered plans. Users in our forums say they're being notified of a $5 bump in the cost of unlimited data starting in March of 2017. The hike would be the second such hike in as many years, after AT&T bumped the cost of unlimited data last February.

"Our Mobile Share Advantage plans and our AT&T Unlimited Plan provide several benefits that our legacy unlimited plan doesn’t," AT&T said in a statement to DSLReports.com confirming the move.
"If you have a legacy unlimited data plan, you can keep it; however, beginning in March 2017, it will increase by $5 per month," AT&T said.

The company has engaged in all manner of aggressive tactics to shove these users off of their unlimited plans, most notably its 2012 decision to block Apple's Facetime from working unless users moved to metered data plans. AT&T has also faced lawsuits and fines from both the FTC and FCC for throttling and otherwise restricting the connections of these unlimited users, without making the restrictions adequately clear.

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Isgrimnur wrote:Verizon
Verizon has confirmed leaked plans to crack down (again) on the company's grandfathered unlimited data users. As we noted last week, Verizon employees have been anonymously posting over at Reddit about the crackdown, which involves telling customers that eat more than 200 GB in any given month that they may lose their connections if they don't slow down their consumption. Verizon eliminated unlimited data plans in 2011, but grandfathered remaining unlimited users at the time.
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Verizon has consistently insisted that users think they want unlimited data plans, but they're wrong.

"At the end of the day, people don't need unlimited plans," Verizon Chief Financial Officer Fran Shammo told attendees of an investor conference last September. "You cannot make money in an unlimited data world," the CFO added.
But seriously, 200 GB/month? That's not mobile-only usage.
That's people that don't have home internet and use their Verizon phone/hotspot as their only connection (very common with rural customers).

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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:42 am

And most likely against the terms of service that nobody reads.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:58 pm

T-Mobile press release
Verizon’s lost their network advantage and had to cave-in on unlimited data. And, because this was all so predictably “carrier” of them, the Un-carrier was ready. Days after OpenSignal ranked T-Mobile and Verizon neck and neck on speed and LTE availability, Verizon began pitching its own unlimited plan today, reversing course on all their previous rhetoric about unlimited data. And today, T-Mobile announced the addition of HD video and 10GB high-speed Mobile Hotspot data to T-Mobile ONE – all at no extra charge – and all with monthly taxes and fees included. Right on top of that, the Un-carrier introduced a new offer of two lines on T-Mobile ONE for just $100.
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These upgrades are available starting this Friday, February 17, at no extra charge for customers on T-Mobile ONE. Customers can simply activate their new features in the T-Mobile app or at my.t-mobile.com. Customers will get HD quality video streaming and up to 10GB of high-speed Mobile Hotspot data per month, so they can ‘tether’ a laptop or other device to access the Internet. And, after the included 10GB of high-speed data, customers still get unlimited 3G data through the end of the month.
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Post by EvilHomer3k » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:18 pm

We are month-to-month with Verizon. We have 11gb of data. It's not unlimited but it's pretty rare that we use it all. We just added our two boys to our plan. It's $15 per month for the added lines. Our total bill is $130 with two new Moto Z Play phones that Verizon had on sale for $5/month. Overall, are paying less than we paid with ATT 2 years ago with two additional lines and over twice the data.

I thought about T-Mobile and Sprint but T-Mo isn't available here and sprint doesn't work as well as Verizon where my wife works. Plus, it's month to month so we can leave any time if we like. They keep emailing about switching but I've run the numbers and it would put our bill up to nearly $200. I'll stick with the plan we have for now.
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Post by hepcat » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:21 pm

I switched to T-Mobile about a month ago as I wanted the unlimited data (I have android auto in my car and I love the idea of streaming whatever I want, whenever I want, for as long as I want without having to check my data usage constantly). So far I've been very pleased. I look forward to the upgrade in my T-Mobile One plan on Friday!
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:38 pm

Make sure you note that you have to go do it.

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Post by gilraen » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:08 pm

hepcat wrote:I switched to T-Mobile about a month ago as I wanted the unlimited data (I have android auto in my car and I love the idea of streaming whatever I want, whenever I want, for as long as I want without having to check my data usage constantly). So far I've been very pleased. I look forward to the upgrade in my T-Mobile One plan on Friday!
Right now we're have 2 lines on T-Mobile with the most basic plan (2GB of high-speed data), which comes out to about $93 and change with all fees and taxes. So for under $7 I think I'll switch to the new promotion. Especially since if even one of our lines is eligible for a "Kickback" in any given month for using <2GB of data, that means our price basically stays the same.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:08 pm

The Verge
It’s been a weird week in the world of major cell providers. After years of moving away from offering unlimited plans after the rise of data-hungry smartphones, Verizon announced out of the blue on Sunday that it would be offering a new unlimited plan to customers again. T-Mobile, who had previously led the way by removing tiered data back in January, updated its own unlimited plan to match. The move was followed by Sprint and AT&T by the end of the week.

Verizon’s unexpected move in offering unlimited data — for the first time since discontinuing the plan back in 2011 — seems to be the factor that caused the rest of the carriers to follow suit. But the question remains: why?
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The simple answer is competition. T-Mobile, for all its underdog nipping at Verizon’s heels, is slowly catching up to Verizon — while it still doesn’t have nearly the customer base, T-Mobile is at the very least putting up a fight with Verizon when it comes to coverage, speed, and reliability.

“Verizon’s perceived network advantage is no longer strong enough to keep its best customers on unattractive rate plans and it was forced to respond,” reports BTIG analyst Walter Piecyk, which, along with T-Mobile announcing a record porting ratio against Verizon in Q1 2017, may explain Verizon’s sudden change in attitude.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:08 pm

This might actually be worth switching for me.

AT&T
AT&T announced that it’ll be offering a new unlimited data plan starting tomorrow, following in the footsteps of its competitors Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint, who all announced new plans with unlimited data earlier this week.

The new AT&T Unlimited Plan offers unlimited data, calls, and texting, and includes HD video (although AT&T’s Stream Saver, which reduces data used by forcing standard definition video, is turned on by default). The new unlimited plan starts at $100 for the first line, which makes it the most expensive of all the carriers. Additional lines cost $40 each, with the fourth line free. Like the other carriers, the new plan has a soft cap on data — 22GB in AT&T’s case, the same as Verizon — after which customers are subject to their data being deprioritized when towers get congested.

Also, while Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint all offer 10GB of LTE tethering on their new unlimited plans, AT&T’s offering doesn’t include tethering at all, which is disappointing to see, especially as AT&T is charging a premium over competitors.

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Post by Kasey Chang » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:12 pm

I just switched to the new Verizon Unlimited Plan from my old one. I should have the same everything (now with throttling at 22 GB, not that I've ever used more than 10 GB in a month, even WIFI hotspot) and save at least $45 a month.

That would even allow me to upgrade my 3 year old phone to Moto Z Play, which has a promo on that will only cost me $10 a month for 2 year contract. Hmmm...
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Post by EvilHomer3k » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:45 am

I got the Z play a few weeks ago when they were giving it away for $5 a month. While kind of big it's a very nice phone. Great battery life. My wife regularly ends the day with about 70% life left.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:54 pm

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AT&T is rolling out a new unlimited plan this week that addresses some of its competitive deficiencies against Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint. A few weeks ago, AT&T joined the unlimited data party with a plan that, to be honest, wasn’t very good. It didn’t include any sort of tethering option and additional lines were pretty pricey.

But the new one addresses those issues. Here’s the deal, and, as normal, it’s a little confusing: The first unlimited line is $90 per month, two lines are $145 per month, and then each additional line is an extra $20 per month. AT&T wireless customers who also subscribe to an AT&T video product (either DirecTV, DirecTV Now, or U-Verse TV) qualify for a $25 monthly bill credit on their DirecTV or U-Verse bill. It’s worth noting that the credit is not available if you have the introductory DirecTV Now promotion for $35 per month.

The plan includes 10GB per line of tethering (slowed to a paltry 128Kbps after it’s exhausted) and, as before, after 22GB per line of data usage, AT&T may slow the data connection on that line if a particular tower is congested. Other devices, including tablets, mobile hotspots, and cars with Wi-Fi hotspots are $20 per month, while LTE-connected watches are $10 per month. Unlimited users are not required to use the throttled Stream Saver service that limits video streams to 480p.

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Post by KDH » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:08 am

:oops: um .. I guess this goes here

The Amazon reviews for a phone designed for rectal smuggling are pretty interesting reading

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The "Beat the Boss phone" is an £27 micro-telephone built into a Bluetooth headset with only trace amounts of metal in its construction; it is lozenge-shaped and is designed to be rectally smuggled into prisons, jails and courtrooms.

The reviews are pretty excellent, as you might imagine: "The person this was bought for is very happy with it, as to whether it will beat the boss, time will tell"; "Trust me the smaller the better", etc.

When I saw that the cell phone designed for rectal smuggling was called “Beat the Boss,” I assumed “The Boss” was a synonym for “The Man,” but it turns out it’s a reference to a specific product: Xeku’s Body Orifice Security Scanner (BOSS), a “hygienic cavity search” chair that scans prisoners for rectal contraband.
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Holy crap! That is absolutely the cell phone from Zoolander.

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Post by gilraen » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:09 am

Comcast launching their own mobile service, on Verizon's network
After years of discussion, Comcast is finally getting ready to launch its wireless phone service.

The service will be called Xfinity Mobile, and it’s supposed to launch sometime in the near future.

It isn’t going to be widely available, however. Xfinity Mobile will only be available to Comcast’s existing customers — the company’s goal here is to build an even bigger bundle for existing TV, landline, and internet subscribers.

Most Comcast customers will be able to subscribe to an Xfinity Mobile plan with unlimited data for $65 per month per line, but customers with some of the more expensive X1 TV plans will be able to get it for only $45 per month. Comcast will also offer a pay-as-you-go service for $12 per gigabyte.

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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:31 am

I wonder if the phones will have wifi calling and be set to prefer it.

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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by gilraen » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:51 am

Looks that way. Their big challenge will be to fix the notoriously crappy tower-to-wifi handoff that plagues most phone models.

Plus all the other wi-fi calling bugs, like, for example, Android phones that just don't ring half the time when wi-fi calling is turned on due to router interference (looking at my own phone...)

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Post by EvilHomer3k » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:14 pm

Seems like a great move. Everyone loves Comcast cable, right?
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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by stessier » Mon May 08, 2017 4:35 pm

How is this not a massive violation of anit-trust law? We get trained every year in anti-trust and this is like the poster child for something that cannot be done.

Comcast and Charter agree to cooperate and not do a merger or acquisition without the other's consent for one year.
But for Comcast and Charter, the two biggest cable companies in the US, that aversion to competition is going to extend beyond cable networks and into the mobile market. The companies today announced an agreement to cooperate in their plans to sell mobile phone service, an agreement that also forbids each company from making wireless mergers and acquisitions without the other's consent for one year.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon May 08, 2017 4:42 pm

You can thank the baby Bells for that. Cingular was stood up in 2000 as a joint venture between BellSouth and Southwestern Bell. I would say it's the cooperation agreement that allows them to throw in the no-merger language as part of that. If they did the same thing without establishing a business venture together, then it would be collusion.

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Post by ImLawBoy » Mon May 08, 2017 4:59 pm

It's not 100% clear to me from the article, but it doesn't look like they're setting up a Cingular-like joint venture. It seems like it may be contemplated at some point in the future in the event they want to get together to buy an established wireless carrier, but for now they seem to be completely separate entities who have an agreement to operate wireless services in the same manner that they operate cable services - avoiding competition with each other. I'm not an expert in antitrust law by any stretch, so I can't really speak as to whether this violates the law or not. The expert they quote seems to think it probably does, but he also leaves open the possibility that they've structured this legally.
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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by Isgrimnur » Mon May 08, 2017 5:05 pm

Pursuant to the Cooperation Agreement, for a period of one year, Comcast and Charter have agreed to explore potential opportunities for operational cooperation in their respective wireless businesses, including with respect to common billing and operating platforms, technical standards development and harmonization, device forward and reverse logistics, and emerging wireless technology platforms. Additionally, the Parties have agreed to work only together with respect to national mobile network operators, through potential commercial arrangements, including MVNOs and other material transactions in the wireless industry, for a period of one year.

The Cooperation Agreement does not, among other things, restrict either Party’s development and/or delivery of wireless services for its cable customers through the exercise or implementation of any rights under each Party’s MVNO agreement with Verizon Wireless.
Even less than a Cingular situation, more like a joint brand riding off of other networks.

MVNO: the V is virtual, meaning that they do not own any of the network assets.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon May 08, 2017 5:16 pm

Of course, ILB, I post the acronym for others. As part of The Mothership, I'm sure you know all the fun acronyms.

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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by gilraen » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:12 pm

T-Mobile introduces unlimited plan for customer 55 and older - 2 lines for $60 with unlimited data/talk/text.

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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by Xmann » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:13 pm

I'm really considering switching from Android to Apple in the next couple months.

My biggest reservation is carrier and service options.

Right now on Android, I use Project Fi and my bill is usually <$50 for talk, text, and 2'ish data.

We pay about $45 for prepaid for my son. He gets talk, text, and 1gb data on his iPhone.

So for us two, we are just under <$100.

Anyone have a similar plan for iPhone I can look at?

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Re: Cell Phone News

Post by gilraen » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:31 pm

Outside of a limited-scope service like Project Fi, what does your phone have to do with your plan?

T-Mobile has 2 lines for $100, all unlimited. If you use less than 2GB in a month, they give you a $10 credit per line (so you can knock it down to $80 if you watch your data). You can use them with any GSM-compatible phone, including iPhone.

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