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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:05 pm

And today I learned about gundecking.
In the modern Navy, falsifying reports, records and the like is often referred to as "gundecking." The origin of the term is somewhat obscure, but at the risk of gundecking, here are two plausible explanations for its modern usage.

The first relates to ship construction. The deck below the upper deck on British sailing ships-of-war was called the gundeck although it carried no guns. This false deck may have been constructed to deceive enemies as to the amount of armament carried, thus the gundeck was a falsification.

A more plausible explanation may stem from shortcuts taken by early Midshipmen when doing their navigation lessons. Each Mid was supposed to take sun lines at noon and star sights at night and then go below to the gundeck, work out their calculations and show them to the Navigator. Certain of these young men, however, had a special formula for getting the correct answers. They would note the noon or last position on the quarter-deck traverse board and determine the approximate current position by dead reckoning plotting. Armed with this information, they proceeded to the gundeck to "gundeck" their navigation homework by simply working backwards from the dead reckoning position.

Physical gundecks no longer exist in modern ships, but the concept of falsifying reports continues alive and well with the humans.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:34 pm

Senior Chief Petty Officer charged with identity theft:
A 19-year Navy veteran and Bronze Star recipient is charged with stealing the identities of at least two subordinates to secure fraudulent loans.

Senior Chief Petty Officer Clayton Pressley III – who is currently assigned to a Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit in Virginia Beach – is set to appear this afternoon in U.S. District Court in Norfolk for a preliminary hearing.

According to court documents, Naval Criminal Investigative Service agents believe Pressley stole the identities of at least two sailors. The first sailor, identified in court documents only by the initials J.B., told investigators last October he received a letter of denial about two months earlier from Discover Financial Services in reference to a personal loan application he did not complete.

The sailor notified his supervisor – Pressley – of the letter and then started researching what happened.

Documents indicate he reviewed his credit report and determined he owed money to at least three other financial institutions he didn't know about. The sailor also received loan denial letters about that time from four other banks, documents said.
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A second sailor called NCIS in January to indicate he also was the victim of identity theft and that he believed Pressley – his former supervisor – was responsible. That sailor, identified by the initials NH, indicated he was contacted through his chain of command about a $10,000 loan he didn't know about.

Investigators determined some of that loan proceeds were used August 7, 2015, at a Jimmy Johns sub shop in Chesapeake. The food was delivered to Pressley's home, documents said.

In all, investigators linked Pressley to more than $24,000 in loans issued in the names of the two sailors, according to court documents.
That must have been one heck of an order.
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Post by Brian » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:19 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:And today I learned about gundecking.
A buddy of mine got caught gundecking a series of electronic safety checks. He got sent to Captains Mast and ended up getting busted down one rank, forfeited half his pay for two months, was restricted to the ship for 60 days, and had to serve 90 days extra duty.

The very next day we pulled into port at Palma, Spain where some genius decided that his first day of extra duty should be spent pulling a topside-rover watch. Which means that right after reducing his pay and his rank he was then issued an M14 rifle and 60 rounds of ammunition.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:12 pm

Way to ruin it for everyone
The U.S. Navy slapped a drinking ban on sailors stationed in Japan on Monday and halted off base liberty after police arrested a U.S. sailor on the southern island of Okinawa on suspicion of drunk driving following a car crash that injured two people.
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The United States has 18,600 sailors stationed in Japan.

The latest incident came as the U.S. military observes a 30-day mourning period at bases on Okinawa after an American civilian working for the U.S. military there was arrested on suspicion of dumping the body of a 20-year-old Japanese woman.

Renewed anger among residents in Okinawa at the U.S. military presence threatens a plan to relocate the U.S. Marines' Futenma air base to a less populous part of Okinawa, which was agreed in 1995 after the rape of a Japanese schoolgirl by U.S. military personnel sparked huge anti-base demonstrations.

Okinawa's governor and many residents want the marines off the island.

All U.S. Navy sailors in Japan will be kept on base and banned from drinking until "all personnel understand the impact of responsible behavior on the U.S.-Japan alliance," the press release said. "Sailors living off base will be allowed to travel to and from base and conduct only "essential activities."

The restrictions do not apply to family members and civilian U.S. contractors, which brings the total number of people to 35,000, but they are being encouraged to observe the rules "in a spirit of solidarity," a spokesman for the U.S. Navy said.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:42 pm

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A U.S. Navy rear admiral pleaded guilty on Thursday to a charge of lying to federal investigators, making him the highest-ranking officer to be convicted in the expanding "Fat Leonard" bribery case.

Robert Gilbeau, 55, a special assistant to the chief of the Navy Supply Corps, appeared in U.S. District Court in San Diego late Thursday afternoon, accompanied by his lawyer and a fluffy white dog he said helped him monitor his health.

Prosecutors said Gilbeau lied when he told investigators that he had not accepted gifts from Leonard Glenn Francis, whose contracts to clean, stock and maintain U.S. Pacific Fleet ships are at the center of the $30 million bribery case.
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Guilbeau's guilty plea brings to 14 the number of people charged in the Singapore-based case, including Francis, the former chief executive of Glenn Defense Marine Asia. The Malaysian businessman also known as "Fat Leonard" pleaded guilty last year to bribery charges. Nine of the 13 previously charged have pleaded guilty.

Last month, a federal judge in San Diego sentenced U.S. Navy Captain Daniel Dusek, 49, to 46 months in prison in the case.

Dusek pleaded guilty last year to a charge of conspiracy to commit bribery after admitting he accepted services from prostitutes, luxury hotel stays, alcohol and other gifts in exchange for giving classified information to the company.

Three current and former U.S. Navy officers were charged with participating in the scheme on May 27, the U.S. Justice Department said.

In a plea agreement with prosecutors, Gilbeau agreed to pay $50,000 in restitution to the Navy as well as a $100,000 fine, said Kelly Thornton, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's office in San Diego.

He also faces up to five years in prison, although prosecutors have agreed to seek a sentence of 12 to 18 months, she said.
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Post by em2nought » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:24 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:LCS Fort Worth skipper fired:
The skipper of the littoral combat ship Fort Worth was fired Monday, more than two months after the ship's propulsion gears were damaged in port amid a high-profile deployment to Singapore.

Cmdr. Michael Atwell was removed Monday after an investigation into the Jan. 12 engineering casualty that has sidelined the forward-deployed ship, according to a Navy release. The breakdown was one of two high-profile mishaps for the embattled ship class within a month and one that has marred the Fort Worth's maiden deployment; Atwell is the first LCS skipper fired since the ships entered the fleet in 2008.

He was fired "due to a due to loss of confidence in Atwell's ability to command," according to a Pacific Fleet statement.

"The loss of confidence followed an investigation into the facts and circumstances surrounding an engineering casualty that occurred Jan. 12 in Singapore," the release said. "While the investigation is still under review by leadership, sufficient findings of facts emerged during the investigation to warrant the relief of the commanding officer."

The investigation found evidence that operators violated engineering instructions during the testing, but a Pacific Fleet spokesman would not elaborate.

"The casualty appears to have been caused by a failure to follow established procedures during maintenance, but the investigation is still under review," Lt. Clint Ramsden said.
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Navy Times' sister publication Defense News broke the story in January that Fort Worth had been damaged during in-port engineering testing. In February, sources told Defense News that the ship would need six to 12 months in the yards to repair the combining gear that was "wrecked" when the ship's gears were run without lube oil.
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5 added to drug probe at Air Force nuclear base
Five more airmen are under investigation for illegal drug activity at a nuclear missile base in Wyoming, bringing the total to 19 and expanding the probe beyond the security forces group initially implicated, the Air Force said Wednesday.

An Air Force spokesman, Capt. Mark A. Graff, said that two of the accused have been convicted in courts-martial proceedings held since the investigation was first disclosed in March. The trials were not previously announced. Graff said the two convicted individuals, whose names were not disclosed, have been sentenced and are serving time in confinement. He says that once they have served their sentences they will be considered for removal from the Air Force.

Graff did not say when or how the number of airmen under investigation was expanded from 14 airmen to 19. All are members of the 90th Missile Wing at F.E. Warren Air Force Base, which operates 150 Minuteman 3 nuclear missiles.

Sixteen of the 19 are members of the 90th Missile Wing's security forces group, Graff said, adding that the other three are junior enlisted Air Force members belonging to an unspecified unit at F.E. Warren.

"In all of the cases a thorough investigation has been conducted or is still occurring," Graff said in a statement to The Associated Press.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:30 am

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A Coronado-based Navy SEAL is being held on $2 million bail in a man's fatal stabbing over the weekend, according to a release from the Santa Monica Police Department in California.

Theo Andrew Krah, whom the Los Angeles Times reported is a petty officer 2nd class, is suspected of beating and stabbing the unidentified man to death Saturday night, the release said.
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According to the Santa Monica Police Department, whose detectives arrested Krah in San Diego on Monday, the Santa Monica Fire Department responded to an emergency call just after 5:00 p.m. on Saturday evening.

"Further investigation revealed the decedent was the victim of an aggravated assault and stabbing," according to the release. "Santa Monica Detectives learned the decedent was involved in an altercation on the Santa Monica Pier earlier in the day."

The victim died of his injuries early Sunday morning.
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Isgrimnur, Jun 6 wrote:Way to ruin it for everyone
The U.S. Navy slapped a drinking ban on sailors stationed in Japan on Monday and halted off base liberty after police arrested a U.S. sailor on the southern island of Okinawa on suspicion of drunk driving following a car crash that injured two people.
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Sailors in Japan will be allowed to drink at off-base bars and restaurants until midnight again, per new rules released Sunday by Naval Forces Japan.

Sailors can drink at private residences and liberty buddies are mandatory for E-5 and below intending to drink on or off-base, Naval Forces Japan said in a statement about the latest ease of liberty rules. Troops based in Okinawa must follow liberty and alcohol rules set by the Okinawa Area Coordinator.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:07 pm

The military never changes:
Two officers attempting to settle a disagreement by duelling with flares at a British Army base have set fire to the officers mess, according to Forces TV sources.

The officers decided the solution to their argument was to each take a kayak into the swimming pool and fire flare guns at each other at the Allenby Barracks in Bovington on Friday night.

One of the flares managed to set the seven-story building alight.

Unfortunately, when personnel tried to put out the fire, sources said the base’s fire hoses had been shut off due to fears over Legionnaires disease following an outbreak on the base in January.
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Sources at the base said the fire service used water from the swimming pool, emptying it as they tackled the fire.

They said the building was unusable and the ground floor remained underwater.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:28 pm

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The captain who led Destroyer Squadron 2 was cashiered Wednesday amid an investigation into inappropriate conduct.

Capt. Tony Simmons, head of the Norfolk-based squadron, was fired by Carrier Strike Group 12 head Rear Adm. Roy Kelley on Wednesday after an investigation prompted a "loss of confidence in his ability to command," according to an official release.
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Simmons is the Navy's 15 commanding officer removed from their post this year and the second serving commodore. Capt. Kyle Moses, former head of Task Force 56, was removed amid the fallout from the capture of 10 sailors and two riverine command boats by Iranian forces in January.

An investigation found evidence Simmons allegedly made passes at an enlisted sailor on liberty and then was dishonest with his superiors when confronted about it, according to two Defense Department officials familiar with the investigation who were not authorized to speak publicly about an ongoing investigation.
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Post by ImLawBoy » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:33 pm

The captain who led Destroyer Squadron 2 was cashiered Wednesday amid an investigation into inappropriate conduct.
So is it his job to upsell to the extra large torpedoes?
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1st ID commander suspended
The commanding general of the 1st Infantry Division has been suspended pending an investigation, the Army confirmed Friday.

Maj. Gen. Wayne Grigsby “is currently the subject of an official investigation, and we cannot comment further at this time,” an Army official said in a statement.

Army officials declined to provide any additional information, including the nature of the investigation.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:34 pm

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A series of visits to strip clubs in Seoul and Rome with names like Candy Bar and Cica Cica Boom paid for with his government credit card helped land the former military aide to Defense Secretary Ash Carter in career-ending trouble, a report released Thursday by Pentagon inspector general shows.

Maj. Gen. Ron Lewis, one of Carter's closest aides, was fired last November after an undisclosed incident. He is one of a series of high-ranking Army officers who have had their careers derailed because of extramarital affairs, unauthorized uses of government resources and trips to strip and sex clubs.

Thursday's report sheds light on the November incident and many others. Lewis, the report said, "engaged in a course of inappropriate behavior that included patronizing an establishment off-limits to U.S. military personnel, drinking to excess in public, and improper interactions with females."

On the night of Nov. 5-6, 2015, on a trip to Hawaii with Carter, Lewis consumed 11 alcoholic beverages with a female enlisted service member, who was also drinking heavily, the report said. Witnesses said they saw Lewis and the woman on the beach near their hotel with Lewis' arms around her. Afterward, another female official on the trip told Lewis he was “being really stupid” and tried to get the enlisted woman away from his hotel room, the report said.

Allegations about Lewis' conduct in Hawaii were forwarded to Carter's staff on Nov. 9, the report said. After a preliminary investigation, Carter was told on Nov. 10. Carter's chief of staff told the inspector general a day later that Lewis would be fired, which happened on Nov. 12.

In his response to the inspector general's investigation, Lewis said he was "aware of my mistakes, errors in judgement, and perceptions I may have created,” but he criticized the investigation, denied sex club visits alleged in the report and said the relationship with the woman in Hawaii — and another in Malaysia — were mischaracterized.

Lewis was one of the highest-ranking African American officers in the Army, which has had problems diversifying its officer corps. Lewis was promoted to major general in January 2015 and had served as the Army's chief spokesman. He became Carter's senior military assistant in June 2015, a job that brought a promotion to lieutenant general, a rank he lost when he was fired.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:31 pm

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The commanding officer of the cruiser Antietam was fired Tuesday, a month after his ship ran aground during a botched anchoring operating in Tokyo Bay, according to a release from U.S. Pacific Fleet.

Capt. Joseph Carrigan was relieved “due to a loss of confidence” in his ability to command the Yokosuka-based ship. The Jan. 31 grounding badly damaged the ship’s two propellers and dumped about 1,100 gallons of oil into the bay.

“The relief follows an investigation into the facts and circumstances surrounding a grounding that occurred on Jan. 31 in waters near Yokosuka, Japan,” according the Navy statement. “While the investigation is still under review by leadership, sufficient findings of fact emerged during the investigation to warrant the relief of the commanding officer.”
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Isgrimnur wrote:..... after his ship ran aground during a botched anchoring operating in Tokyo Bay....
from 1983

The nuclear aircraft carrier USS Enterprise ran aground in SFO bay...

One thing the article failed to mention was .. the entire crew had to come out and stand at the edge of the ship to try and get it to "de-list" and free itself from the sand ... the article seems to dwell on the fact that families and service men were inconvenienced for 90 minutes
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:05 am

Had they never spoken to anyone in the military? Ninety minutes! Oh, the Republic is in danger!
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I waited longer than that for inspections.
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South Korea meth bust
Two U.S. soldiers have been accused of smuggling 9 pounds of methamphetamine worth about $12 million hidden in cereal boxes sent via the military postal service, South Korean prosecutors said.

Prosecutors allege that the soldiers, who were based at Camp Humphreys, arranged for the drugs to be shipped from California to an Army Post Office address.

Two South Koreans also have been arrested, and four other South Korean suspects with relatives in the United States are wanted in the case.

One of the soldiers has been arrested and jailed on a charge of violating the narcotics control act; the other was indicted on the same charge without detention, according to a statement from the Pyeongtaek Branch Prosecutor’s Office.

The statement said the soldiers were both 20 and had the rank of private first class but did not otherwise identify them. U.S. Forces Korea did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Prosecutors said the meth seized had a street value of 13.6 billion South Korean won, or $12 million, and could potentially have been used by 130,000 people.

“It’s the largest amount of drugs found coming through the APO,” senior prosecutor Kang Susanna said in a telephone interview.
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The soldier who was not detained is accused of receiving the drugs at his APO address and giving them to the other soldier who then handed it over to a civilian off post. Prosecutors said the suspects planned to sell the drugs.

The transaction was part of a smuggling ring that had a front in Seoul’s Gangnam neighborhood, where investigators also found more than 3 ounces of methamphetamines and a smaller amount of cocaine in a safe, a statement said.
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Isgrimnur wrote:South Korea meth bust
It was the cereal boxes that sealed their fate :wink:
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So, it appears that some sailors have taken up vaping to pass the time and form social bonds. And the Navy is cutting that out quick because there have been... problems.
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According to a Navy memo, eight of the “incidents” happened onboard Naval vessels and or aircraft. At least two of the ship incidents required “firefighting equipment.” Ten of the 15 reported incidents happened because of “improper stowage” or batteries being put in pockets and then igniting, causing “1st- and 2nd-degree burns on the legs and torso.”

Four of the 15 occurred when the battery exploded while the user was puffing on the vape, causing face and tooth injuries.
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The ban will be effective on May 14 and will extend indefinitely. Sailors can vape when on shore and on base, but only if they do it in the designated areas.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:13 pm

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A sailor on the USS Shiloh who was presumed dead after falling overboard was actually hiding out in one of the ship's engine rooms for the past week, David Larter of Navy Times reports.

Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Mechanical) 3rd Class Peter Mims was thought to have fallen off the Shiloh roughly 180 miles east of Okinawa, Japan, on June 8. The man-overboard incident triggered a massive search by US and Japanese personnel that spanned 5,500 square miles.
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The Navy's 7th Fleet said in a statement on its website that Mims was found alive on board the ship and would be transferred to the USS Ronald Reagan for medical care.
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Isgrimnur wrote:Business Insider
A sailor on the USS Shiloh who was presumed dead after falling overboard was actually hiding out in one of the ship's engine rooms for the past week, David Larter of Navy Times reports.

Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Mechanical) 3rd Class Peter Mims was thought to have fallen off the Shiloh roughly 180 miles east of Okinawa, Japan, on June 8. The man-overboard incident triggered a massive search by US and Japanese personnel that spanned 5,500 square miles.
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The Navy's 7th Fleet said in a statement on its website that Mims was found alive on board the ship and would be transferred to the USS Ronald Reagan for medical care.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:27 pm

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Hospital employees from the Naval Hospital Jacksonville have been removed from patient care after disturbing photos involving newborns went viral on Monday.

The viral post, that has been shared over 185,000 times, shows screenshots taken from the employees' Snapchat account. In the images, the employee is seen sticking up her middle finger to a newborn, captioned with "How I currently feel about these mini Satans." The post also explains that in one of the Snapchat screenshots, the "navy nurse" and her friend held up the baby, making the baby dance to rap music.
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Naval Hospital Jacksonville's Commanding Officer sends: We are aware of a video / photos posted online. It's outrageous, unacceptable, incredibly unprofessional, and cannot be tolerated. We have identified those involved-- two staff (not nurses as reported on some sites). They have been removed from providing patient care and they will be handled by the legal system and military justice. We've notified the patient's parents.
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Post by GreenGoo » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:52 pm

What's the charge? Insulting the dignity of a new born?

I get that inappropriate physical contact is actionable, but most of it seems to be pictures of rude gestures. Rude gestures are best left to the courts, is what I'm learning here.

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Post by Brian » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:22 pm

Most likely they'll 'em with one or more of the "catch-all" articles of the UCMJ like:

Article 92 - Failure to obey order or regulation
Article 98 - Noncompliance with procedural rules

Those can be interpreted rather broadly when facing a court martial.
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Post by Rip » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:35 pm

Brian wrote:Most likely they'll 'em with one or more of the "catch-all" articles of the UCMJ like:

Article 92 - Failure to obey order or regulation
Article 98 - Noncompliance with procedural rules

Those can be interpreted rather broadly when facing a court martial.
Or just a good ol Article 134. General article:

Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Freyland » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:37 pm

What about HIPPA violations?
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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Max Peck » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:11 am

GreenGoo wrote:What's the charge? Insulting the dignity of a new born?

I get that inappropriate physical contact is actionable, but most of it seems to be pictures of rude gestures. Rude gestures are best left to the courts, is what I'm learning here.
Fundamentally, the offense is making the Navy look bad.

I don't know what the American catch-all charge would be, but in the Canadian Forces it's "conduct to the prejudice of good order and discipline" (QR&O 103.60).
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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Rip » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:13 am

Max Peck wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:What's the charge? Insulting the dignity of a new born?

I get that inappropriate physical contact is actionable, but most of it seems to be pictures of rude gestures. Rude gestures are best left to the courts, is what I'm learning here.
Fundamentally, the offense is making the Navy look bad.

I don't know what the American catch-all charge would be, but in the Canadian Forces it's "conduct to the prejudice of good order and discipline" (QR&O 103.60).

Try looking up two posts and you will find it.....

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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Max Peck » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:39 am

Rip wrote:
Max Peck wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:What's the charge? Insulting the dignity of a new born?

I get that inappropriate physical contact is actionable, but most of it seems to be pictures of rude gestures. Rude gestures are best left to the courts, is what I'm learning here.
Fundamentally, the offense is making the Navy look bad.

I don't know what the American catch-all charge would be, but in the Canadian Forces it's "conduct to the prejudice of good order and discipline" (QR&O 103.60).

Try looking up two posts and you will find it.....
What, I'm supposed to believe everything I read on the internet? Or read all the way to the end of a thread before hitting a reply widget? :)
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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Isgrimnur » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:22 am

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The Navy’s investigation into the so-called “Fat Leonard” corruption scandal has expanded to include 60 admirals, The Washington Post reported.

In all, the conducted of 440 active duty and retired personnel is now under review, according to the Post, which cited a Navy response to its questions.

The “Fat Leonard” scandal, the worst corruption scandal in Navy history, centers around Malaysian contractor Leonard Glenn Francis, who bribed scores of officers with extravagant parties, luxury gifts, prostitutes and more in exchange for classified information to win lucrative contracts for his Glenn Defense Marine Asia company.

The Justice Department has already filed criminal charges against 28 people, including two admirals. Francis has pleaded guilty to bribing Navy officials and defrauding the government of more than $35 million, and is awaiting sentencing.

The 60 current and retired admirals now under investigation are about twice as many as Navy officials said were under investigation last year, according to the Post.
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The Navy has so far charged five people with crimes under military law, according to the Post, which cited charging documents. None of them were admirals.

The Navy has also concluded that 230 people under review were not guilty of misconduct, an Navy official told the Post. Many attended dinners or accepted gifts from Francis, but the Navy found there were extenuating circumstances that excused their actions, according to the Post.

Meanwhile, 40 cases of people violating ethics rules or other regulations have been handled administratively, meaning punishment did not involve criminal charges, the Post added.

In many cases, the military’s statutes of limitations prevented the Navy from taking tougher action, according to the Post. For most felonies, the statute of limitations is five years. The oldest incident reviewed so far was from 1992, while most happened between 2004 and 2010, the Navy official told the Post.
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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Isgrimnur » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:34 pm

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The entire command triad of Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 4, currently deployed to Okinawa, Japan, was fired Feb. 11 after the unit’s executive officer was found intoxicated and walking naked in the woods on Camp Shields.

Lt. Cmdr. Jason M. Gabbard, the unit’s XO, was relieved after being discovered in the woods wearing only his boots following a command gathering for chiefs and officers, Navy officials said.

The commanding officer, Cmdr. James J. Cho, and Command Master Chief (SCW/EXW) Jason K. Holden, were also relieved for their handling of the incident, which they attempted to cover up, a source told Navy Times.
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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by GreenGoo » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:38 pm

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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Freyland » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:35 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:34 pm
Navy Times
The entire command triad of Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 4, currently deployed to Okinawa, Japan, was fired Feb. 11 after the unit’s executive officer was found intoxicated and walking naked in the woods on Camp Shields.

Lt. Cmdr. Jason M. Gabbard, the unit’s XO, was relieved after being discovered in the woods wearing only his boots following a command gathering for chiefs and officers, Navy officials said.

The commanding officer, Cmdr. James J. Cho, and Command Master Chief (SCW/EXW) Jason K. Holden, were also relieved for their handling of the incident, which they attempted to cover up, a source told Navy Times.
Really seems like their handling of the incident was quite reasonable.
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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by morlac » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:34 pm

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Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:05 pm
And today I learned about gundecking.
In the modern Navy, falsifying reports, records and the like is often referred to as "gundecking." The origin of the term is somewhat obscure, but at the risk of gundecking, here are two plausible explanations for its modern usage.

The first relates to ship construction. The deck below the upper deck on British sailing ships-of-war was called the gundeck although it carried no guns. This false deck may have been constructed to deceive enemies as to the amount of armament carried, thus the gundeck was a falsification.

A more plausible explanation may stem from shortcuts taken by early Midshipmen when doing their navigation lessons. Each Mid was supposed to take sun lines at noon and star sights at night and then go below to the gundeck, work out their calculations and show them to the Navigator. Certain of these young men, however, had a special formula for getting the correct answers. They would note the noon or last position on the quarter-deck traverse board and determine the approximate current position by dead reckoning plotting. Armed with this information, they proceeded to the gundeck to "gundeck" their navigation homework by simply working backwards from the dead reckoning position.

Physical gundecks no longer exist in modern ships, but the concept of falsifying reports continues alive and well with the humans.
My Father's short term memory has gone to complete shit but it has kicked in his long term memory into overdrive. I have heard more crazy Navy stories in the last year since my Mom passed to fill a book. Gundecking was a common occurrence in his day. Many a fake report was filed to help make life at sea more...entertaining. I have learned such things as how many cases of booze a gutted Corsair will hold, the best places in Yukosuka to pick up "other" entertainment (and how many you could fit in a gutted Corsair) and how many bottles/favors were required for sailors to look the other way. This is all while being on active duty (though The Yorktown was mostly covert/training/reserves missions when he was on it). The stories from being on ship leave are horrifying and not safe for typing! As he says, "things were different then, less pussies running things" (his words not mine... ;) )

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Re: Misbehavior in the military

Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:11 pm

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The Army stripped a star from a general who flirted on social media with the wife of an enlisted man, finding his actions "dissolute and immoral" and forced him to retire, the Army announced Friday.

Maj. Gen. Joseph Harrington will lose one rank in retirement after the Army determined that he had engaged in inappropriate online communication with the woman in more than 1,000 messages. Harrington had been in charge of U.S. Army Africa from a base in Italy when the relationship, first reported by USA TODAY, became known in August.

Harrington and the woman had exchanged Facebook messages for four months. The messages ranged from the friendly to flirty. She is married to an American soldier over whom Harrington had jurisdiction under military law.

The Army issued Harrington a letter of reprimand, a career-killer. The letter also released Friday noted that Harrington, while not found guilty of a crime, was expected to behave honorably on and off duty.
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