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Has anyone checked out Jim & Andy? Apparently Jim Carrey lost his mind while filming Man On The Moon and started to believe he was really Andy Kaufman. This documents the whole mess.

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Can anyone sell me on season 2 of Stranger Things? Based on the praise here, I watched the first season with my wife. Enticing beginning, followed by a *very* slow progression of story (almost stopped after episode 2), which then picked up really well except for some very poor writing of character decisions just to create suspense (Nancy and the tree-gate being the best example). Then the last episode was doing a fantastic job of climaxing the show, until the piss-poor final "solution" in the school. Its been 2 weeks since we watched the last episode of Season 1 and I have had no longing to return to it.
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Godless. Western, with Jeff Daniels in it. The rest of it is so good that I didn't realize that ^ was in it till the end.
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Freyland wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:26 pm Can anyone sell me on season 2 of Stranger Things?
If you didn’t like season 1, I highly doubt you’ll like season 2.
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Stranger Things Season 3
The streaming giant has renewed the Duffer brothers' breakout hit Stranger Things for a third season. A return date has not yet been determined for the supernatural drama about the happenings brimming beneath the surface of a small American town.

While Netflix — like fellow streamers Amazon and Hulu — does not release viewership information, measurement leader Nielsen cited an audience of 15.8 million viewers who watched the season two premiere within three days of its launch. (And nearly 11 million of them were among the key adults 18-49 demographic.) Nielsen also found that 361,000 Netflix subscribers streamed the entire nine-episode second season within 24 hours of its debut. (Netflix declined comment on the Nielsen findings.) Stranger Things 2 also was crowned the most popular show in the country, according to data company Parrot Analytics.
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In September, sources told THR that stars Finn Wolfhard, Millie Bobby Brown, Gaten Matarazzo and Caleb McLaughlin each got $30,000 per episode for the first and second seasons with a bonus — less than six figures — once it became clear that the show was a phenomenon. While the cast is signed for six years, talent reps say a renegotiation will happen in early 2018. One question yet to be addressed: whether the show's breakout, 13-year-old Brown will negotiate separately from the other young stars.
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One question yet to be addressed: whether the show's breakout, 13-year-old Brown will negotiate separately from the other young stars.
Wait I thought Gaten was the show's breakout. Sure Eleven is good, but Dustin is the man!
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And nearly 11 million of them were among the key adults 18-49 demographic.
The part that I don't understand anymore is why Nielsen would still care about the "key demographic" when the platform does not show ads. When they look at demographics for TV viewers, it reflects on how much the networks can charge for advertising (certain groups spend more money blah blah blah). What does it matter for a Netflix show, who watches it? At that point, they are just paying for Netflix. One could actually argue that 18-20-something-year-olds may actually be LESS profitable for Netflix because many of them are sharing their Netflix passwords :D
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coopasonic wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:14 pm
One question yet to be addressed: whether the show's breakout, 13-year-old Brown will negotiate separately from the other young stars.
Wait I thought Gaten was the show's breakout. Sure Eleven is good, but Dustin is the man!
My current favorite is Harbour. He's doing a fantastic job. Brown is probably my second favorite. Gaten was good, but I think he could be replaced much easier than the other two. And in the episode I watched last night, I found him more annoying than enjoyable.

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I finally finished Punisher and I thought it was great. I'd rank that with Season 1 of Daredevil. I don't understand the complaints of bad writing. I felt the last episode was a little weak
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but overall I felt the writing was fine.

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I take it there won't be a sequel? Kinda felt complete.
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Shot in the Dark is a pretty cool series so far. It's a docu-series about the indie video journalists (stringers) that go out at night and get footage of car wrecks and fires and stuff to sell to news outlets (see Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler). It follows three of the top guys in Los Angeles as they make their rounds trying to capture the biggest stories of the night.

I'm only two episodes in, but it's fun in a COPS sort of way. My one negative is that It's so slickly produced that it sometimes comes off as a little staged, but I find the concept compelling enough to keep watching.
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gilraen wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:17 pm
And nearly 11 million of them were among the key adults 18-49 demographic.
The part that I don't understand anymore is why Nielsen would still care about the "key demographic" when the platform does not show ads.
My understanding is that Nielsen's consumers for SVOD ratings are content creators and competing streaming platforms rather than advertisers. In theory, highly rated content should fetch a higher price when different streaming platforms bid for rights to third-party content. This would also explain why Netflix doesn't release its own viewership data, and contests the accuracy of the Nielsen ratings.
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The wife and I finished Punisher last night. We both really liked it, and it ranks up there with Daredevil season 1 for me.
naednek wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pmAnother spoiler (more of an innuendo)
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I take it there won't be a sequel? Kinda felt complete.
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They only decided on a Punisher series after his success in Daredevil season 2, so it makes sense that they don't have longterm plans for the character. I really like that the we got a satisfying conclusion to his character arc. Still, they've left the door open for him to return. He said it himself, he doesn't know what it's like to not be at war. That's been my take on the character from the comics. He's constantly picking fights with bad guys because he doesn't know what else to do.
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hepcat wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:33 pm
Freyland wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:26 pm Can anyone sell me on season 2 of Stranger Things?
If you didn’t like season 1, I highly doubt you’ll like season 2.
And here I was beginning to think I was the only one. I like what it tries to do, and I love the fact that parts of it feel like ET and The Goonies, but that's about it for me, as I really don't like the horror aspects, maybe because I never was into horror, especially the ones it tries to emulate. I give it points for emulating the 80's very well though. And I suppose this is going to make me a martyr...
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Nah, I can understand not liking it. I enjoyed it, but I didn’t think it was as good as all the praise made it out to be.
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In the process of finishing The Punisher tonight. I really enjoyed the season.


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Stranger Things S2 isn't grabbing me the way the first did. Part is, I think, the novelty has worn off, and a bigger part is that there seems to be more teen angst (always a deal breaker) than the first season.

I watched Jim & Andy the other night, and it's a fascinating study for fans of either (I still don't particularly like Carrey, although I now respect him a bit more) of how Carrey became Kaufman (even for the Tony Clifton material) much to the annoyance of everyone else on set.
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hepcat wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:09 pm Nah, I can understand not liking it. I enjoyed it, but I didn’t think it was as good as all the praise made it out to be.
Thanks. And I guess that leads me to another point. I find most of Netflix's original series to be grim and dark or edgy, though I suppose that only reflects the current trend. There's a lot of it there that I simply don't feel comfortable watching with certain people being around. I kind of wish that Netflix's selection of original programming were a little more balanced.
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I think you've only been exposed to a handful of their original content then. They have a ton of original stuff. Go over that list and you'll find a lot of variety. It's not all Marvel, House of Cards and Orange is the New Black. Heck, I'd even call Stranger Things almost family friendly if it weren't for a few violent moments. And even those you can see worse examples of on broadcast TV these days.
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Oh, I've seen their list and I don't find it particularly inspired.
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Freyland wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:26 pm Can anyone sell me on season 2 of Stranger Things? Based on the praise here, I watched the first season with my wife. Enticing beginning, followed by a *very* slow progression of story (almost stopped after episode 2), which then picked up really well except for some very poor writing of character decisions just to create suspense (Nancy and the tree-gate being the best example). Then the last episode was doing a fantastic job of climaxing the show, until the piss-poor final "solution" in the school. Its been 2 weeks since we watched the last episode of Season 1 and I have had no longing to return to it.
My take on season one was always that all of the pieces were rather trite and somewhat cliched, but that the whole was greater than the sum of its parts.

In season 2, I felt the child actors were even better than in the first, as well as the adults (Winona's Joyce got to have more than a one-note performance). I also felt that the directions they took the characters were more interesting and less cliched, though there were a couple of off notes (the conspiracy theory guy and the big city episode). Overall, I felt it was superior to season 1 in just about every way, unlike most sequels.

I also liked what I saw in the post-season roundtable (only saw the first one so far) with the actors - it was fun and enchanting to see the actors/writers talking about it.
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I must be an easier sell than youse guys. I loved both seasons of Stranger Things.
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hentzau wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:08 pm I must be an easier sell than youse guys. I loved both seasons of Stranger Things.
Don't get me wrong, I loved both too. I just felt that the first season had some flaws which were far outweighed by how enjoyable I found it.
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Rumpy wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:49 pm Oh, I've seen their list and I don't find it particularly inspired.
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Not for me. I watch whatever msteelers tells me to. It makes movie nights so simple now.
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hepcat wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:11 am Not for me. I watch whatever msteelers tells me to. It makes movie nights so simple now.
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tgb wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:16 pm Has anyone checked out Jim & Andy? Apparently Jim Carrey lost his mind while filming Man On The Moon and started to believe he was really Andy Kaufman. This documents the whole mess.

Not made for Netflix, strictly speaking, but I started watching Turn at the insistence of a friend. Excellent.

Loved it. I already thought that Carey was way underappreciated in that role. This just cements it. Bonus points for making me think how much of this Documentary was serious/legit and how much of it was Kaufman esque. Brilliant!
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I'm about six episodes into The Punisher and am enjoying it. Is this part of the official Marvel universe? I'm having a hard time accepting that Castle's world has magic, gods, aliens, etc.
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McNutt wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:01 pm I'm about six episodes into The Punisher and am enjoying it. Is this part of the official Marvel universe? I'm having a hard time accepting that Castle's world has magic, gods, aliens, etc.
Yes, it's part of the MCU.
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McNutt wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:01 pmIs this part of the official Marvel universe? I'm having a hard time accepting that Castle's world has magic, gods, aliens, etc.
Yes. There are references to the events of The Avengers in the first season of Daredevil, for example.
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Just short of finishing up the Punisher and I have mixed emotions. I think the series is very well done, has a very good story, and has been the most emotionally involving Marvel Netflix series so far:
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if you don't have tears when Micro gets his family back you have no heart
That said, it's bit too violent and gory for me. And I've never read any of the Punisher comics so I'm not very familiar with the character. But he doesn't resonate personally with me, the whole brooding, ultra violent, revenge character just sort of bounces off me. I think Beranthal does a great job, I'm just not a fan of the character.

I am interested where the character goes from here since
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You might want to spoil that last line, Grifman.

Finished The Punisher. I thought it was pretty good; it never seemed to have the lull like many of the Netflix Marvel series have had. But it was definitely extremely violent; especially the last two episodes.
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Just finished season 4 of the Ranch, which will be the last one for Danny Masterson in light of his recent news. Should be interesting to see if the show survives for Season 5, as he's EP, and his character is a big part of the show. I didn't feel like his character was a critical part of this season like it was in previous years, so they may be able to pull it off without him.
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Just finished S2 of Stranger Things. It's been interesting to read the conflicting opinions on it (and on the Marvel series). I liked both seasons of Stranger Things, and would probably put 2 ahead of 1. I agree about the conspiracy guy/city diversion episodes not really meshing with the rest of the narrative, especially on hindsight. I also felt it was slow starting off; I watched the first 3 episodes and didn't come back to the series for probably a month or so. I watched the rest of the batch in short order.

On the other hand, I can't get into the Marvel series. I wanted to, and watched a number of early series/seasons (DD 1 & 2, JJ) and they just never grabbed me. I watching only because I felt like I should be watching, but I wasn't enjoying it primarily because of the violence and constantly dark slant to the whole thing. I've had no urge at all to delve into Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders or Punisher. I'm disappointed I didn't enjoy them more.
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Just binged S2 of Stranger Things this week. It was fantastic. Can't wait for S3, but I am a little concerned it's going to get stale if they don't change things up.
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